How good would Oregon have been in Big10?
How good would have Oregon been if in the Big Ten? Would they have still gone undefeated? Obviously i ask because the similarities in Michigans and Oregons offense's and because i have no doubt Denard is going to much better than Oregon QB Derron Thomas. I think Oregons O would have shredded the big 10, just as i believe michigans will if left alone. Most interesting game of theirs i watched was california, where they struggled because tailback Lamichael James was out. Showed me how huge it would to get a back like Hart in this offense.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:30 PM ^
Oregon would probably have one loss to W, MSU, or OSU .
December 20th, 2010 at 2:31 PM ^
Wisconsin or OSU maybe; no way in hell MSU would beat Oregon.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:38 PM ^
Normally I would agree with you but this is not the same old Sparty. I think you would have to say that it at least would have been a game and not just a runaway for Oregon.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:39 PM ^
No matter how many times this video gets posted, I still lose it hahaha
December 20th, 2010 at 2:47 PM ^
umm i doubt it... Are you forgetting this is the same Oregon that dropped 52 or w/e on stanford..
They would have put incredible pressure on cousins, turnovers would of ensued.
It might be a close game early on, but i bet Oregon would beat them by at least 14-21 pts
December 20th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^
I think Oregons O would not do the things Michigans did (Denard fumbles, Multiple dropped balls,Lewan penalty killing drives,missed field goals) instead these would have turned into scores. I think the idea with this offense is jump out ahead and then match score for score until your pace wears out the other team, and you blow them out.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:55 PM ^
Are we talking about the same Sparty team?
The same one that had to run a trick play to eek out a win against ND and again against Northwestern?
The same one that got blown out Iowa?
The same one that barely got by Purdue?
The same one that had their best season in 50 years, went 11-1 and still couldn't get any respect to make it into a BCS game?
Hmmm... definitely not the same old Sparty.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:56 PM ^
If it was around the time MSU played Wisconsin, they might have given the Ducks all they could handle. But I think MSU peaked right around the Wisconsin-UM weeks and never looked anywhere near as good afterwards. They were lucky to escape the Purdue and NW games and of course got annhiliated with the Rose Bowl on the line against Iowa.
I would be shocked if Alabama wins by less than 17 points.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:43 PM ^
Sounds like MSU should can Dantonio and promote Treadwell to HC. MSU played its best ball when he was running the show this season.
Maybe St. Mark can stay on in a figure head role until he is 105 like Joe Pa and rack up a bunch of career wins that he had little to do with.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:32 PM ^
I would say you are right, they would likely have a loss on their record. I wouldn't even count out two if they were here because there were a lot of teams that could rise to the occassion. I would say one for sure though.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:35 PM ^
These are always tough hypotheticals. I think OSU and Wisc could have given them games, but MSU has been puzzling. They played very good against Wisc and UM, but since that point I think they have been pretty poor. They manned up against PSU, but they were in trouble against Ill, NW, Pur and got smacked by Iowa.
I think if they played right now Oregon would beat them very badly.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:31 PM ^
They would have easily won the Legens Division this year; however, they would have lost to Pitt in the Perles-Mason Big 10 Championship Game.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^
Perles-Mason Big 10 Championship Game
Awesome.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:41 PM ^
December 20th, 2010 at 2:31 PM ^
.... we'll never know
December 20th, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^
That kind of offense wouldn't work in the B1G.
So probably 7-5.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:36 PM ^
Well done.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:58 PM ^
You're on your game today, sir!
December 20th, 2010 at 3:16 PM ^
They would be undefeated becuase the Big 10 is way too slow for super fast paced Pac-10 Oregon death machine.
/s
December 20th, 2010 at 3:42 PM ^
I've awarded you an MGoPoint but, from the looks of it, you've got a deep, deep hole to dig yourself out of . . . Pretty impressive, actually!
December 20th, 2010 at 4:08 PM ^
Amature!
December 20th, 2010 at 4:50 PM ^
I've decided to take your final appeal on a pro bono basis and will continue my diligent efforts to get you out of jail based simply on your posts in that thread last week. Don't get too comfortable behind those bars . . .
December 20th, 2010 at 5:21 PM ^
I told a joke I heard on the radio on the ND investigation thread. I guess the joke was deemed inappropriate by the mods. I agree that the joke was inappropriate and should have never made it to mgoblog. I blame Tim Conway Jr. because I heard that joke on his radio show.
I will take my punishment since it is deserved. I just have a long journey of entering CAPTCHA everytime I make a post.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:28 PM ^
Well.......Lets hear the joke.
Aw damn, they dropped me to 87 points.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:52 PM ^
I will not tell the joke because I want to decrease the number of times I have to enter CAPTCHAs.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:35 PM ^
if that. They are pretty darn good. Could have lost to Wisconsin, if they played them late. Maybe to OSU if they played early. But Sparty? Come on.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:40 PM ^
Fire Mason for 8-4, 7-5 and a bunch of bowl games, then hire Brewster. That's a really tough job unless it's the 1930's.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:44 PM ^
Well, Mason was fired because he had some truly epic fails. Like losing to us in the Buffalo Stampede. And also his final loss in the bowl game, where Minny blew a 31 point lead.
IMO, he shouldn't have been fired, because he actually made Minny somewhat relevant. Joke's on the Gophers.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:51 PM ^
I get WHY they let him go, but it seems that the powers that be at Minnesota are under the impression that they are someone other than Minnesota.
That guy was a good coach. Their loss.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:42 PM ^
I did not say that all 3 would beat Oregon I said one of them would trip them up. MSU being one of the options for a upset. Since they are co big ten champs and have only one loss ( a tottall melt down to Iowa) you can't just say well it's Sparty so they would lose.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:43 PM ^
You do know that you could be neither wrong or right in this argument.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^
I know I just think it is funny that people are so amazed that someone is actually giving Sparty some respect. To be honest I am kind of amazed that I am giving them any respect.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:52 PM ^
it isn't so much that no one wants to give them respect. It is mostly because they barely beat several crappy teams and had to get very lucky to avoid 3 or 4 losses..
Oregon had 1 close game against CAL.
You will get the chance to see if they are for real against Bama..
December 20th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
I agree with you on that point. They have earned some respect after going 11-1, however they didn't exactly do it in dominating fashion. I don't know about you but every week no matter who they were playing I was expecting their luck to finally run out. It didn't but fans nor the BCS were overly impressed which is why they are on the same time as us on New Year's day.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^
While I agree I don't think voters or the BCS were overly impressed, but of MSU's problem in the BCS standings is when they lost. Just like when the polls decided the NC, when you lose is still very key. MSU happened to lose much in the season than either Wisky or OSU.
December 21st, 2010 at 12:49 AM ^
Could we please get over this "MSU could be in a BCS game if they had lost at a different time" meme. MSU looked horrible against mediocre teams and didn't just look bad in their loss, they were down by 5 scores at halftime. MSU is very, very lucky to have the record they have and everyone outside of East Lansing knows it. The BCS didn't show them any love because they don't deserve any.
December 21st, 2010 at 5:51 AM ^
"You are what your record says you are." ;-)
December 21st, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
Right.... So if "you are what your record says you are", MSU is better than Alabama seeing as they have a better record by 2 games.
Would you care to place an even money wager on MSU? I will take Alabama. I'll do it for any amount between $10 and $10,000,000...
December 20th, 2010 at 8:38 PM ^
has them at 8.5 expected wins versus their schedule.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:52 PM ^
Michigan St. vs. Iowa
Michigan St. vs. Purdue
Michigan St. vs PSU
Michigan St. vs. Oregon?
It is my belief that MSU was a three legged mule destined to hell disguised as a Clydesdale until Iowa exposed them. Now I just consider them a Zebra. An anomaly this year that will become extinct next year.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
I actually agree with you I don't think they will be that great next year. But this year they have somehow managed to win 11 games ugly or not.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:58 PM ^
but Oregon is much prettier than all the teams they have beaten. Have you seen their uniforms?
December 20th, 2010 at 3:00 PM ^
Those socks on the NC uniform look like something that happened after one of your nukes.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^
it's Sparty. They would lose.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^
Its tough because the Pac-10 was relatively godawful this year, so I'm not sure how their dominance would translate to the Big 10. They smacked around Stanford, clearly the best team on their schedule and only struggled in one game-- but I think it's tough to say that means they would run through the Big 10. That being said, if they were in the SEC, they would be lucky to break .500.
Sincerely,
Gary Danielson
December 20th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
Who would have thought after all the glory days Gary Danielson brought us a Detroit Lion that he would take so many hits in the Michigan blogosphere?
December 20th, 2010 at 4:45 PM ^
I live in SEC country and people here are sure that Oregon would go winless in the conference.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:02 PM ^
I would rather talk about Eric Hipple.