Seeing as how our current first-string punter doesn't seem to have much interest in actually punting in games, this isn't as crazy an idea as it might sound to some people.
How does Recruiting Change with Pipkins on board?
I think the combo of Hagerup (eventually getting his act together) and Wile (filling in for punting duties if needed) makes it unneccessary to use a scholarship on a punter this year. That is assuming Hagerup gets his act together and Wile can adequately handle punting duties, both of which are not stretches to assume.
I just wish it wasn't that funny.
btw, I am not so sure that the backup/first-four-games role goes to Wile automatically. I think Seth Brookhuizen might have something to say about it. Punting is still a skill position, even though there aren't many "reads," and it means something to have a guy who is an upperclassman and who has been on the field before, versus a true freshman.
regardless of how highly ranked they are I hope we don't get another CB. We had a large haul last year, 2 good guys this year. I really hope that we take 2 WR. There are only going to be 2 CB on the field at any time but there will be times when we have 3 WR, and to only take 1 in 2 classes while taking 6 CB in those 2 classes just doesnt seem safe.
Just because we never had the depth to put more than 2 CBs on the field at any one time in the past few years doesn't mean that it isn't a good idea to put more than 2 out there.
There's a little flexibility with the last 4 spots, but not a lot. A WR is a must. I'd say if they take another corner, a DT is probably out. With the OL, with 5 commits plus 2 preferred walk-ons, do we actually need another one? I guess if one of Garnett, Banner, Peat, or Diamond says yes, we'd probably take him. But, however this plays out, I'd REALLY want to see us hold a spot for Dunn if he wants to come here. He's too good to turn down and we could really use a good, big back.
We need another OL more than a WR.
With Stonum coming back next year, that lessons the need.
Next class, take 2/3 top WRs .. with Shane Morris as your QB.
If I had to choose 4 players, it would be RB: Dunn, WR: Payton, OL: Diamond, and CB: Wright.
And you can swap out Payton and O'Brien, if you'd like.
Either way, that's four good, top tier recruits.
We need one WR. The question is if we need two.
How's Mrs. Kass?
Vacation in the mountains and sailing on Lake Huron is a good thing. We're ready for the kids to go back to school and our oldest to start college. And I'm losing weight, so what more could you ask for?
I hope my wife doesn't see this post and divorce me.
LOL, Dudeness. LOL.
(Did you see that Curb Your Enthusiasm episode this season with the lady that says "LOL" instead of actually laughing? Classic.)
Larrdy David=Social Assassin.
What a great episode, Curb is so funny.
DT at this point is a luxury unless we get word that Ash goes the same way as DT Terry Talbot as I believe Wormley will end up inside, while yes this does short change us on DT you cannot address every depth issue at once and its a hell of a lot easier to get burned for a TD in your secondary than it is to run past 7 players in the box (insert 2010 defense joke).
I think you will end up seeing Dunn, Diamond and either Wright/Reeves playing for the good guys, that 4th spot is an utter toss up.
Counting '12 verbal commits (Wormley and Pipkins), there would be 6 DTs on the '12 roster. This for 2 spots that rotate reglarly. None of them are remotely proven at the college level.
For RB, the same number is the same (6) - but it's one position, and decent options like Hopkins and Smith remain.
For WR, there are 8 guys for 2 positions (assuming a pro-style offense), plus backs and TE that can be used as receivers in multi-receiver sets.
What I'm saying is that going after RB or WR is a far bigger luxury than adding another DT.
I'd argue OL is the biggest remaining need, since only about 50% of recruits pan out, and the need for early contributions is acute.
That's our biggest need, one more good OL.
I think we'll add one of the many top guys.
WR is the only guaranteed spot..I think everything else is more "first come, first serve." CB may be one, but I have a hard time thinking that if Reeves and Wright say no, we keep looking. However if Payton and Madaris say no, we've still got 3-4 more other guys we're looking at.
With 4 spots remaining (assuming 26), I still think we take a WR and DT (likely O'Brien assuming he wants to come). After that, it is a crap shoot. Elite CB looks like the next spot, and I wonder if the last spot will be held for a RB.
I'm pretty sure the staff has said multiple times they are taking 6 OL in this class. The most likely candidate is Diamond so lets pencil him in. That leaves three spots.
With recent scuttlebutt about the staff wanting an elite corner I think we have to assume either Wright or Reeves will be a top target. That leaves two spots.
The roster needs a WR and the staff seems to be trying pretty hard to get at least one. My best guess is either Darboh, Madaris, or Payton. That leaves one spot.
That final spot is probably the only real flexible position left in this class. If I had to guess the last spot will be left to either Dunn (if he decommits from OSU), O'Brien, Shittu, or a second wide receiver. The real question is whether the staff will hold the final position for the best talent or the fastest on the draw.
My best guess for the rest of the class
I wonder how much of a hurry they will be in to fill those last few slots. If several of those top guys are asking for time they might be able to give it to them and that could impact who they really target.
For instance if a few receivers step up do they only go after 1 receiver?
If 1-2 young backs emerge and look great all year does that change the calculus with Dunn?
By slowing down some for the last few slots it may help them better target those slots. If we start hot and really build momentum they may even expand their list, or consider any fast risers that tear up their senior seasons.
I think at this point the pace will be dictated a lot more by the recruits, partly because there is a much smaller pool that we're going after, and partly because I think the coaches will want things to slow down, but probably won't turn away a commitment.
At the beginning the process, I think the coaches were encouraging guys to commit early, mostly because they needed to fill 26 or so spots. Now, the coaches would probably prefer things to slow down, that way they can see how their young players look over the season, and see who, if anyone, transfers, gets injured, or is off the team for any reason. If Richard Ash has a career ending injury and Raymon Taylor becomes a fantastic CB, the coaches might opt for signing O'Brien over Yuri Wright, for example.
Maybe add Juwan lewis to the list. Wasn't there a chance the coaches would throw a scholie his way?
Much about Aziz Shittu? Does the commitment from Pipkins take him off the board as well? Or did he already declare he wasn't interested?
can anyone fill me in on what Will/TRob did?
hopefully we can snag o'brien too...thats priority #1 I think. After that, I think we don''t need the other DT prospects even if their elite, we should try to get one reciever in this class even with stonum's redshirt and maybe an elite RB