They got me at "Kiffin would have been a better hire."
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They got me at "Kiffin would have been a better hire."
Hey. You know what goes great with 18 years of returning to glory? New NCAA sanctions. And Layla Kiffin.
Wow, thats brutal.
They've won three games in a row. They're 4-3 and running the table is not completely out of the question.
I love that after reading the thread title, my first thought was of the Notre Dame fan base. I was a bit off on the content (the image I conjured was of 100,000 people wearing Freekbass t-shirts and rolling around in their own feces), but damn I was close.
My first thought was "This is going to be about a ND Nation thread about wanting another new coach..." (I pretty much knew it was ND Nation, but the new coach bit is primarily because every time Rich Rod getting fired comes up, a deep dark part of me panics at the thought of becoming another ND, cycling through a new coach/system every few years.)
Disturbingly...POTENTIALLY...Michigan is exactly on the ND path. They are exactly like us in many ways: tradition, Midwest, great academics, numbers one and two in wins, arrogant (yup), conservative (yup), and thinking we can field a team of Rhodes Scholars who kick the shit out of the likes of Alabama while volunteering to help poor children in Africa in their spare time. Michigan is VERY much like Notre Dame, and must avoid the pitfalls the Golden Domers have illustrated for us for the last ten years, or we will live their painful existence.
Don't think it can't happen. It happened at ND, and every other major university. We've been lucky--so far. The Bo pipeline has dried up. We are in very, very dangerous territory right now. People should think twice about getting rid of RR. If it were that easy to just go out and get a winner, every big-time football school would never have a down cycle.
Maybe if they fire Kelly they could get Leach...no...wait...Leach will be going to the Gophers
So, wait, seriously? He has some struggles in his first season, maybe the team drops a game or two that they could have won, and they want him gone? As if ND is in any position at all to fall backwards into a 12-0 season? And they also think that they can run the guy out of town after his first year and find someone better who'll actually want to take that kind of a job? Are the people who think this way dumb or just stupid?
Not that that's particularly surprising, given some of the genius content that comes out of the internet at times, but seriously? Man alive, I wonder if they can even remember the start of a sentence by the time they finish it.
Wow. Not sure what was funnier to me. The content of that post, or the antique 1994 feel of that blog. What a painful user experience for those poor ND fans.
Makes me appreciate the MGOBLOG even more - if that's even possible...
They are clearly living in 1993--the last time ND was any good.
Wow. And I thought we needed Prozac.
Thanks for this post. Nothing lifts the spirits more than a good dose of Domer Delusion. I didn't read the whole thread, but who is it that they think wants the ND job more: Bob Stoops or Urban Meyer?
Post any good creationist arguments you find, too. Thanks
Those people need some major counseling. But then again, maybe if Kelly doesn't work out they can get Vince Lombardi. He's been getting a lot of good publicity lately.
I am an ND fan and I would love to shoot every single one of those idiots. irishenvy.com is a much better place to hang out. Even has arcade games to play!
Kelly could lose the rest of the way this year and he isn't going anywhere. Although I find it highly amusing that the same things that got Weis canned are leading to the demise of RR. Super offense, no defense.
-1 for admitting you're a ND fan. Just because I can and it seems like a fun thing to do this evening (not because you're a bad person).
Arcade games! I know that's what I look for in a college football message board.
We also have betting with virtual money!
I have a few friends that are ND fans. Hate to admit it but I do. They absolutely fly off the handle about everything. Punting, game day experience, that girl that they thought liked them that one night at that bar. It is very comical. It may be why I am still friends with them. That post reminds me of all my conversations with them.
ummmm.... and I thought RR had it hard sometimes...
Notre Dame fans are seriously among the worst in the country. They truly think they're this close to being BACK.
Much like you guys?
I was at Notre Dame this weekend, and (despite a final score of 44-20) it was a lot of fun to watch WMU move the ball right down the field on them. Their fans, though, were not nearly as douchey as I expected.
Does NDNation know they're the most mocked message board in the country?
If they ever figure it out, they might stop! So all of us need to keep our collective e-mouths shut!
He was rejected from the team last year, but this year he made it with one goal. Victory takes time!
Man that's funny. A spoiled fan base who expects instant results from a system coach who doesn't have the right players to play in his system. And they forget they haven't been that good for a while.
Boy are THEY ever delusional or what?
I see what you did there, but I'd like to politely disagree with your last point of comparison.
I thought about that too before I wrote it. But candidly since the first 11 games of 2006 we really havent been that good. Maybe that's not as long as ND has been wandering in the football wilderness but it's not like the years between 1998 - 2006 were slathered in Big Ten Championships and Rose Bowl wins either.
*fingers in ears* LALALALALALALALALALALA
Which is one reason the original poster made me wonder if he was being sarcastic or serious on his post. Yeah.....hopefully we'll never be like this.
Have we checked to see if they have any of the posts from our site linked with the same title?
If you think this board is like NDNation, you need to visit that one more often. We have fans who are upset, but you don't see people posting their latest daydream about how the coach will get fired - and you certainly don't see the moderators supporting them. (In that thread, "El Kabong" is one of their mods.) Anyone there who makes a post strongly in support of Kelly gets ridiculed.
I only have one thing to say about that link.....
And this isn't even one of those "I like anyone who is playing Notre Dame" things....I truly like Navy.
After reading those comments from "loyal alums," it makes me wonder how ND ever got a reputation as an elite academic school.
They need to come back from orbit. Kelly is a good coach, he's proven that every single place he's gone. I'm actually fearful he will return ND to elite status in the next 3 years. GRrr
I occasionally check out NDNation. I wish I didn't, it's a terrible thing to do to oneself. Sometimes I just can't resist though. It's not a moral choice, it's a disease. Wait I forgot, are we talking about heroin or NDNation...
Anyway, I just do not understand their obsession with there only being ONE WAY to play football. See this thread, http://www.ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?b=football;pid=136737;d=all with quotes like, "It's not simply that I despise it from an aesthetics/preferential point of view" and "I hate teams that try to outscore the opposition." Does he prefer a team that tries to score less than the other team?
Personally, I think that one of the awesome parts of college football is that there are a large variety of offenses that can succeed. There is nothing inherently better about an I-formation 3 yards and a cloud of dust team than a passing spread team. Also their fascination with TOP is hilarious. Against one matchup the running team might have an easier win, but it might be the opposite for a different matchup.
With the quote, "I was very jealous watching Wisc. on Sat night." I wonder how jealous of Wisconsin's offense he was during the game against MSU.
I haven't seen any posts from him lately. Was he eaten by the ND alumni???
blogs just don't look at good as mgoblog. Anyone else ever notice that?
Some of our user post game rants (as recreated in that work of art 6 minute movie short) seem sorta even handed when you look at other fan bases.
http://www.firecoachmeyer.com/ Saw this on ESPN yesterday. 237,000 plus hits according to the little counter, plus 50,000 visitors to the forum part since the beginning of October. Just think if he had only won 1 national championship in 4 years rather than 2?
We have a great fan base overall. Made better by the struggles.
the whole thing boils down to, "What have you done for me lately?". It's hard to keep a good team for a long time. People graduate, new players come into place and it takes time to develop a new player. Well at least the college ranks aren't as trigger happy as the pros.
Ha! That's the way to do it, ND. Fire one of the top 10 coaches in the country after 1 season. I will buy every ND fan a drink if they can somehow pull that off.
Do they not realize that Brian Kelly is the rope ladder dangling from the helicopter that has come to pull them out of the sea of mediocrity they've been drifting in ever since Lou Holtz left?
They fired Willingham after just 3 seasons for "not recruiting", then watched as all the guys he recruited went to back to back BCS bowl games. I'm not a huge Kelly believer, but any coach deserves more of a shot than this (and his track record is a lot better than "any coach"). I think NDNation thought things were running smoothly but Weis was the lone problem holding them back. Now they are having a hard time adjusting to the reality that they just aren't a top-20 program any more and it will take time to get back to that level.
Everyone who was a contributor on Weis's BCS squads was either a Davie recruit or was recruited by Willingham in just his first class (which was a very good one). His '04 class was pretty bad and his last class was a total fiasco. If you look at Weis's 3-9 season, the blame for that probably goes about 50/50 Willingham/Weis. Anyhow, ND isn't where they are now because they haven't been patient with coaches. They are where they are now becuase they have made some really bad hires. Brian Kelly is the first good hire since Holtz.
It's funny how Notre Dame and desperate are pretty much synonyms now. I knew this thread was about ND before I even opened it.
Never want to be like this. Nevah, under any circumstances. Must admit, my greatest concern at Michigan right now is for hotheads like this to cause the ultimate dismissal of RR & staff. Letting Weis go was the right decision for ND. Letting RR go would be the wrong decision for Michigan. Michigan football is heading in the right direction. If the current staff continues at the current pace, with a solid recruiting class, for 2011, "It's gonna be a good year. It's gonna be a good, good, year."
Complaining about academic standards? Has anyone in the Michigan fanbase said that?
what the hell happened to Irish? he seemed to disappear in a hole after the ND loss...
I kind of see Notre Dame like what the '08 Michigan team would have been with Ryan Mallett, Manningham, and Arrington all sticking around.
Say what you want about "new system blah blah blah" but I haven't been impressed this year by how well Kelly has used the talent that his team has. He is squandering Michael Floyd's Braylon-like talents in a big way.
Floyd is not helping himself by suddenly getting a case of the droppsies.
They have had a really hard schedule thus far. Their three losses are to teams with 0, 1, and 2 losses respectively. It's not like they've been losing to a bunch of shitty teams. In the first year, it is very obvious that the defense has taken a HUGE step up without Jabba, and that the offense will be goodt once they get some experience.
Well, I've got to say - the Navy-ND game unfolded an awful lot like that guy predicted. Let's hope the rest follows suit.
Their arrogance is surpassed by no one. A part of me actually hopes the Big Ten expands to 16 teams along with the other power conferences and ND is left out in the cold, with no conference affiliation in any sports. It would serve them right. I want that entire athletic department torn asunder and destroyed for their snubbing of the Big Ten because they thought they were too good for it. Nothing would be more fitting than the school that thought they were too good for any conference to have their entire athletic program destroyed because of it.
They tried to join the Big10, but were cock blocked by...errr.. Oh right Michigan.
That's because you guys had a fun habit of suiting up ringers, and guys who had long since graduated. We refused to play you until you agreed to abide by the recommendations set down by the NCAA.