That is fairly optimistic.
frank beamer #1
That is fairly optimistic.
I'm going to log off to avoid a meltdown. In short, what tournament chances we were holding on to are now gone.
I liked it better when we were up 17.
Destroying my blood pressure since 2007.
I can't believe how much this paralleled Thursday's game against PSU. How you can come from behind like that and then fall flat on your face is really tough...where is the consistency?
Can I assume you only started following Michigan sports that year?
"Since 2007" mostly just refers to THE HORROR and the subsequent struggles of football and basketball.
I've been following Michigan sports since the day I was born, over 26 years ago.
If you are a basketball fan, the agony sure didn't start in 2007.
Before then, the triumphs of other M sports (namely football and hockey) helped to at least normalize blood pressure patterns.
It was happy times as a youngster, sad times as a teenager, and devastating times as a college student. Mid-twenties has been up and down.
I wish the fact that I now go to NU made me feel any better about this loss.
are you an undergrad at NU?
no, i was undergrad at michigan, and now i'm grad at NU
Damn it. What a big fat pile of suck.
That was the worst minute of basketball I have watched on any level. Grade school, high school, college, NBA. The worst. We had 4-5 turnovers in the most critical minute of the game. This team still has no leadership, no consistency. I fear what the future holds for this team without Manny and Deshawn.
We suck at it.
like "heart" or "focus," why not go straight to the real heart of the matter: maybe there's simply not enough real basketball talent on this team, and the coaching staff isn't good enough to compensate for it.
Don. There are two future NBA players on this team, a highly rated point guard, two excellent three point shooters, plus Gibson, LLP and Vogrich. To say there's not enough "talent" on this team shows virtually no understanding of the game of basketball. It's certainly MUCH more an issue of "heart" and "focus," and yes even coaching, than "talent."
NW certainly doesn't have the talent of UM. in fact, they probably have only one nba caliber player - and he's injured.
my biggest complaint is that they just aren't aggressive enough on either end of the court. they constantly get out-hustled for loose balls or don't get back on D. and several players go thru expended bouts of being afraid to drive the lane or take a shot.
the other problem for lack of hustle is due to the two team leaders: Harris and Sims. those guys appear to coast a lot during games. do you ever see either of those guys dive for a ball? novak is the only guy that goes "all out" all game. perhaps if the "leaders" showed more hustle, it would rub off better on the rest of the team.
I fucking hate Northwestern. They never, ever do anything outside of conference (in either football or basketball), but in conference they're a bunch of fucking vampires that never die. FML.
Well, that was frustrating as hell.
freakin done with these guys. You don't lose at home to Northwestern. Period. Especially after being up 17 points. There is a serious problem on this team. I just can't quite put my finger on it.
I guess John Belien gets paid millions to "put his finger on it"
Lets hope he actually does something about it. We all know he's not bringing in explosive athletes. All he does is bring in pale gunners, and system guys that don't really amount to jack squat.
You may have to retract that line about recruiting in a few months.
Beilein is not the problem. If anything, he's a victim of his own success getting last year's team to massively overachieve. We will be fine in the long run. This year we may be in trouble, though. Losing both Cronin and Morgan to injury hurts, a lot.
Do you see next year going any better? Don't get me wrong. I love Michigan, and I love this team, but I see a wholesale regression from THIS year to next. Losing the two stalwarts of the team.
I also thought, going into the season and even moreso now, that this year is a monster year to define the direction of this program. One that could have major implications on recruiting.
I think JB is a great coach, always will, and I think he will succeed (eventually) here. But this team is in trouble, which ultimately puts the next few years teams in trouble.
I don't think it will fully compensate for the loss of talent with Manny's and Sims' departures, but creating an opening for Novak and other hard-workers to step into leadership roles may help this team. All signs suggest that Manny and Sims just aren't leaders, and that is really killing this team's consistency in playing inspired ball. Those guys are the elder statesmen this year, and they're spiritual drains on the team. This isn't the only reason for our struggles this year, but it's a big one.
I don't think we'll be all that great next year, but I think we'll do better than people think, and will truly lay the groundwork for success beyond that. The current roster is not what JB would ideally have. He wants to have a lineup with a lot of rangy guys that can play multiple positions and can thrive in the 1-3-1. We're moving in that direction with Smotrycz, Hardaway and McLimans (among others) but right now we're trying to scrape by with a weird mixture of players.
So I'm wondering where are the people who were screaming "bandwagon" and "how dare anyone say something is wrong with this basketball team" in the PSU open thread-
are right now? After losing to Indiana, Northwestern, and having to make a huge comeback vs. Penn State, is it fair-weather, or just rational to be concerned?
It's definitely rational to be concerned, especially because our tournament chances, barring a miracle, are drying up VERY quickly. Complaining about the team and their effort/turnovers/etc. is ok. It might not be received well on MGoBlog, but that's just how it goes.
I get a little bit annoyed when people come to say "I'm giving up on the team" and then end up posting about how angry they are for the rest of the game. If you're giving up, then give up and leave, and don't come back until next year.
I love you Stu.... just LOVE you...
I'm not consoled by this, but perhaps it played out as it should.
Ridiculous finish. I was hoping for about 40 more "pan to Crawford's dad" shots after little Crawford went off.
I have not been impressed with the coaching job of this team all year. Ill prepared. Can't attack a trap. Can't play defense (see Boston College game), ect. I thought our coach was one of the "gurus" out there?
to much on Harris and Sims. Other players aren't getting involved in the game when 2 players take 75% of shots night in and night out. How would you like to bust your ass playing defense all night and take 1 shot. Every team knows no matter how much ball movement there is, one of two players will be taking the shot most of the time.
While Manny and Sims obviously are the primary scorers, I felt this loss had more to do with turnovers than anything. It doesn't matter who's shooting when we made so many awful turnovers.