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Hoke Rated 5th Best Head Coach Recruiter

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/College-footballs-best-recruiting-he...

 

1. Saban

2. Meyer

3. Sweeney

4. Kelly

5. Hoke

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:13 PM | Dabo Swinney ahead of Hoke (Score:3 Normal)
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Dabo Swinney ahead of Hoke really?

"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:31 PM | http://rivals.yahoo.com/footb (Score:3 Normal)
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitmen...

 

4 6.1 players in one class.

 

gotta respect being able to convince athletes like sammy watkins and taj boyd to play at clemson (of all places...)

This is home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgijdypJUEQ

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:35 PM | He might not even be the best (Score:2 Normal)
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He might not even be the best recruiter in his state.Spurrier I think takes that.

"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:04 AM | hmmmm... (Score:5 Normal)
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Swinney, unlike the ol' ball coach, can make it rain.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:26 AM | Everyone (Score:1 Normal)
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Meet Mike Bellamy

"I mean, everyone does ... kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me."

"We ain't come here to play school"

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:56 PM | That was his only good class (Score:3 Normal)
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That was his only good class in 6 years, though. Since 2008 his recruit classes have been 12th, 37th, 19th, 8th, 14th, and this year they're sitting at 21st. 

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:14 AM | but its Clemson.  CLEMSON. (Score:2)
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but its Clemson.  CLEMSON.

This is home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgijdypJUEQ

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:20 AM | You make it sound like Duke (Score:3 Normal)
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You make it sound like Duke or something.  Clemson is a sleeping giant if they ever got a good coach.

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February 1st, 2013 at 4:30 AM | You sound like a Clemson fan. (Score:4 Normal)
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You sound like a Clemson fan. The program isn't a sleeping giant. It is the MSU of South Carolina.

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February 1st, 2013 at 9:53 AM | Clemson "is the MSU of South Carolina." (Score:5 Normal)
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The overall series record between Clemson and South Carolina is 65-41-4 in favor of Clemson.

Since 1980, the record is 21-11 in favor of Clemson.

Since 1990, the record is 14-9 in favor of Clemson

Since 2000, the record is 7-6 in favor of Clemson.

Tell us again how Clemson is Michigan State and South Carolina is Michigan?


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February 1st, 2013 at 9:59 AM | not to mention one of the (Score:2 Normal)
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not to mention one of the best campuses around and the girls... wow

If you see someone in an airport with Michigan logos on luggage and they are wearing a pilot uniform come say hello.

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February 1st, 2013 at 10:43 AM | Academics. My wife's side of (Score:1 Normal)
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Academics. My wife's side of the family is from Charleston, SC. The Clemson fan base are the redneck brah's of the rivalry. South Carolina fans are bit more mature and refined. 

Clemson's campus is a giant trash heap as well. My crew team in college spent spring training in clemson. There is maybe one stop light and that's it. 

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February 1st, 2013 at 3:43 PM | They are both the MSU of SC (Score:2 Normal)
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And there is no way that the USC fans are less redneck than Clemson fans.  They each have their share.  Personally, I like Clemson's campus a lot better than USC.  USC is right in Columbia while Clemson is on the shores of the lake.  More of a campus town feel.  USC is just concrete.

 

 

"Finish Strong"

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:06 PM | No.Clemson is not the MSU of ... (Score:2 Normal)
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South Carolina.  South Caroilna is... they have only recently become relevant  comparatively speaking with the hire's of Holtz and Spurrier.

Clemson's overall record is 668–450–45 with  68 All-Americans, 15 Academic All-Americans, and 169 NFL players.

USC on the other hand is 566-544-44.   With 20 All-Americans.

Clemson has 18 conference titles vs South Carolina's 1

And 1 National vs South Carolina's 0.

My parents retired to the Clemson area and yes they are a sleeping giant. 

 

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February 1st, 2013 at 3:18 AM | Yes,"convince." (Score:2 Normal)
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Yes,"convince."

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February 1st, 2013 at 1:27 PM | It's got to be the Mascot. (Score:2)
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"Hey guys, you ever take Bath Salts?"

 

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:13 PM | not surprising to see the 2 (Score:5 Normal)
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not surprising to see the 2 biggest douche bags in sports at the "top".

Vice.com

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:15 PM | This list is dumb. These (Score:5 Normal)
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This list is dumb. These coaches are all selling great products (Swinnney aside). What about James Franklin and Hugh Freeze who both have higher ranked classes than Clemson?

Galileo was also chastised.

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:20 PM | Freeze (Score:5 Normal)
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While these coaches are selling great products, Hugh Freeze* may be giving away products for free.

*Well, more like Ole Miss boosters.

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:24 PM | Well if so he's giving stuff (Score:3 Normal)
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Well if so he's giving stuff away more successfully than anyone else. More succesfully than Auburn.

Galileo was also chastised.

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:28 AM | college football has (Score:2 Normal)
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college football has officially hit a new low with that post

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:12 AM | that's what I always longed for, my own (Score:1)
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personal booster. 

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:16 PM | Where's Mork? (Score:4 Normal)
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Where's Mork?

Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:30 PM | Best in intergalactic recruiting... (Score:2 Normal)
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hands down, no contest

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:06 AM | Do you really have to ask anymore? (Score:3 Normal)
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He's obviously still laying in the weeds

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:17 PM | How do you even measure (Score:2)
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How do you even measure this? 

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:19 PM | How are three Northern (Score:5 Normal)
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How are three Northern schools in the top 5? Only good recruits and recruiters are in the South!

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:24 PM | Les Miles is most followed (Score:2 Normal)
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Les Miles is most followed NCAA Football coach on twitter!  I think hes had more success than Sweeney recruiting.  Just shocked not see him in the top 5!

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:04 AM | I would have (Score:3 Normal)
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Him top five. Look at nfl draft picks and consistent top 10 finishes

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:25 PM | Dabo?!? Come on. (Score:3 Normal)
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Dabo?!? Come on.

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:26 PM | Wow, how is this list not all (Score:1)
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Wow, how is this list not all SEC?

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:07 AM | Because the list wasn't done (Score:5 Normal)
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Because the list wasn't done by ESPN

"I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start."

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:29 PM | Another thing, people love to (Score:2 Normal)
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Another thing, people love to talk about how guys like Meyer, Hoke and Kelly are great recruiters. Go look at the recruits they were pulling in at Utah, BGSU, Ball St., SDSU, CMU and Cinci. Seriously go do it. They weren't lighting the recruiting world on fire by any stretch and now that they're in power jobs BOOM five stars. That's not to say these guys aren't doing great jobs for their schools, but they get a bit too much credit.

Galileo was also chastised.

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:42 PM | Yeah but look at all the (Score:4 Normal)
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Yeah but look at all the other power schools they're competing against.  Recruiting at those small schools and recruiting against the big boys are completely different games with different goals.  Look at how much better Hoke is recruiting than he who must not be named for fear of starting a thread destroying broken record.  Recruiting for Michigan is quite obviously not easy enough for any schmuck to succeed.  Nor is it at any other school.

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:10 AM | There aren't many schools (Score:3 Normal)
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There aren't many schools that have that kind of pull. USC, Florida, LSU, Alabama, Texas OK. Maybe Georgia, you can add FSU when they're up. Tennessee, Miami and Oklahoma are worthy of some consideration, but OK and TN are basically Michigan with a worse recruiting footprint. 

Rodriguez was a schmuck when it came to recruiting. He alienated instate coaches and targeted many marginal talents with character issues early in the process. My favorite was in 2010 when he recruited five 3 star receivers (four of whom were his first commits in the class!) and one offensive lineman. This isn't a case of hindsight, I wailed insufferably about this as it was happening, too. Despite his ineptitude at talent evaluation and roster management even he did alright until he was firmly on the hot seat.

Galileo was also chastised.

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February 1st, 2013 at 11:24 AM | "OK and TN are basically (Score:2 Normal)
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"OK and TN are basically Michigan with a worse recruiting footprint. "

Tennessee maybe...Oklahoma's recruiting footprint has included all of Texas for decades.  They get more talent from Texas than Michigan gets from Ohio or any other neighboring school gets from Georgia.

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:36 PM | Where's (Score:2 Normal)
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Dantonio??

Michigan National Champs: 1901-1904 1918 1923 1932 1933 1947 1948 1997 

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:47 PM | Hiding in the weeds. (Score:5 Normal)
Louie C
Joined: 11/16/2009
MGoPoints: 2010

Hiding in the weeds.

"It's the only place to get the inside story on Wolverine football, so blee bluhh tahh!" - Bo

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:02 AM | I wish (Score:1 Funny)
ryanlove12
Joined: 01/12/2013
MGoPoints: 239

There was a like button for posts like these

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:46 PM | They basically took 4 of the (Score:2 Normal)
denardogasm
Joined: 09/11/2011
MGoPoints: 1856

They basically took 4 of the top 5 or 6 classes and called their coaches the best.  Brilliant analysis.  

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

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January 31st, 2013 at 11:52 PM | I hate Meijer with a passion. (Score:1 Normal)
WolverineFanatic6
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Joined: 10/29/2012
MGoPoints: 408

I hate Meijer with a passion. I find him to be such a self loathing, sore loser with little to no class at all. Ill never forget after Lloyd's last game Meijer goes on his weekly radio hour and have Michigan no credit at all. He said Percy Harvin wasn't at 100% and that Tim Tebow had a "undisclosed" injury preventing him from being effective. He went on to spout some BS on how they beat themselves and they beat Michigan 9 out of 10 times and unfortunately this was the one time. After that I lost any respect I had for him.

Once Tebow leaves and he realizes he can't compete with Saban anymore so he cites health problems and more time with family as why he quit. Then instead of taking a year off he goes to espn and travels around doing games and getting an inside look at our program. Everyone and their mother knew he was taking the ohio job and now his whiny little ass is back. People give him so much respect and I understand his success at bgsu, Utah, and UF warrant it to some degree, but they act like he's the second coming of Christ or something. He goes unbeaten his first year at ohio and the media salivates his every move just like the dog with the bell.

I believe Hoke is trying to mold us into a mirror image of Bama and Stanford. If Hoke continues to bring in great talent we have a real shot to snuff him and ohio out and become the Bama of the north so to speak. Or I suppose you could also say the old Wolverines. I can hardly even watch "The Game" anymore bc I hate Meijer that much. I imagine with the call and text restriction rule eliminated from recruiting he will finally be on a level playing field.

Rant over

Fuck you Meijer I will forever mis-spell your name and call your cheating ass team ohio.

There is god, there is family, and then there is MICHIGAN FOOTBALL

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:05 AM | This phrase self loathing (Score:5 Normal)
TrppWlbrnID
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Joined: 10/29/2009
MGoPoints: 7884

I do not think it means what you think it means.

2013 resolution - make it onto the 2014 favorite MGoPosters post, not ironically
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February 1st, 2013 at 12:06 AM | Yea (Score:5 Normal)
yoyo
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Joined: 02/11/2011
MGoPoints: 404

Costco is way better than Meijer!

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February 1st, 2013 at 8:20 AM | I resent that (Score:2)
FreeTheFabFivePlz
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Joined: 03/08/2011
MGoPoints: 1024

Who can hate purple cow ice cream and sandy the horse?

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:07 AM | Wow (Score:2)
Moleskyn
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Joined: 06/28/2010
MGoPoints: 3181

Uh, had maybe one too many tonight? Why don't you go sleep this one off before you hurt somebody.

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February 1st, 2013 at 12:12 AM | Hate (Score:3 Normal)
EGD
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Joined: 09/16/2009
MGoPoints: 1870

All that hate's gonna burn you up, kid.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

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February 1st, 2013 at 3:46 AM | 9 out of 10 times huh? (Score:2)
JTP
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Joined: 08/03/2012
MGoPoints: 26

If memory serves me correctly, didn't Mike Hart fumble twice at the goal line? Hart had the surest hands of any tailback in recent memory, and the game should've been a blow out win for us if this didn't happen. Meyer should be lucky to have even been in the game.

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February 1st, 2013 at 11:03 AM | A great man once said..... (Score:2)
Wolvmarine
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Joined: 08/28/2008
MGoPoints: 2428

Take your weapon, strike me down with all your hatred and your journey towards the Dark Side will be complete. Your Hate has made you powerful.

All hail Hoke!

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February 1st, 2013 at 11:29 AM | Meijer is the best place for (Score:1)
User -not THAT user
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Joined: 06/05/2012
MGoPoints: 364

Meijer is the best place for you northern types to pick up Mrs. Renfro's salsa...they've got varieties there we don't even get in this part of the country.  Another thing I like about visiting the in-laws in Dayton.  And Tim Hortons, of course.

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February 1st, 2013 at 7:46 PM | It would be kinda cool if (Score:2)
M-Dog
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Joined: 07/06/2008
MGoPoints: 6366

It would be kinda cool if Meyer left the SEC to get away from Alabama, and winds up facing a Michigan team that looks and plays like Alabama.

 

M'Dog

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