4 6.1 players in one class.
gotta respect being able to convince athletes like sammy watkins and taj boyd to play at clemson (of all places...)
Swinney, unlike the ol' ball coach, can make it rain.
That was his only good class in 6 years, though. Since 2008 his recruit classes have been 12th, 37th, 19th, 8th, 14th, and this year they're sitting at 21st.
but its Clemson. CLEMSON.
You make it sound like Duke or something. Clemson is a sleeping giant if they ever got a good coach.
You sound like a Clemson fan. The program isn't a sleeping giant. It is the MSU of South Carolina.
The overall series record between Clemson and South Carolina is 65-41-4 in favor of Clemson.
Since 1980, the record is 21-11 in favor of Clemson.
Since 1990, the record is 14-9 in favor of Clemson
Since 2000, the record is 7-6 in favor of Clemson.
Tell us again how Clemson is Michigan State and South Carolina is Michigan?
not to mention one of the best campuses around and the girls... wow
Academics. My wife's side of the family is from Charleston, SC. The Clemson fan base are the redneck brah's of the rivalry. South Carolina fans are bit more mature and refined.
Clemson's campus is a giant trash heap as well. My crew team in college spent spring training in clemson. There is maybe one stop light and that's it.
And there is no way that the USC fans are less redneck than Clemson fans. They each have their share. Personally, I like Clemson's campus a lot better than USC. USC is right in Columbia while Clemson is on the shores of the lake. More of a campus town feel. USC is just concrete.
South Carolina. South Caroilna is... they have only recently become relevant comparatively speaking with the hire's of Holtz and Spurrier.
USC on the other hand is 566-544-44. With 20 All-Americans.
Clemson has 18 conference titles vs South Carolina's 1
And 1 National vs South Carolina's 0.
My parents retired to the Clemson area and yes they are a sleeping giant.
"Hey guys, you ever take Bath Salts?"
This list is dumb. These coaches are all selling great products (Swinnney aside). What about James Franklin and Hugh Freeze who both have higher ranked classes than Clemson?
While these coaches are selling great products, Hugh Freeze* may be giving away products for free.
*Well, more like Ole Miss boosters.
hands down, no contest
He's obviously still laying in the weeds
How do you even measure this?
How are three Northern schools in the top 5? Only good recruits and recruiters are in the South!
Les Miles is most followed NCAA Football coach on twitter! I think hes had more success than Sweeney recruiting. Just shocked not see him in the top 5!
Him top five. Look at nfl draft picks and consistent top 10 finishes
Dabo?!? Come on.
Wow, how is this list not all SEC?
Because the list wasn't done by ESPN
Another thing, people love to talk about how guys like Meyer, Hoke and Kelly are great recruiters. Go look at the recruits they were pulling in at Utah, BGSU, Ball St., SDSU, CMU and Cinci. Seriously go do it. They weren't lighting the recruiting world on fire by any stretch and now that they're in power jobs BOOM five stars. That's not to say these guys aren't doing great jobs for their schools, but they get a bit too much credit.
Yeah but look at all the other power schools they're competing against. Recruiting at those small schools and recruiting against the big boys are completely different games with different goals. Look at how much better Hoke is recruiting than he who must not be named for fear of starting a thread destroying broken record. Recruiting for Michigan is quite obviously not easy enough for any schmuck to succeed. Nor is it at any other school.
There aren't many schools that have that kind of pull. USC, Florida, LSU, Alabama, Texas OK. Maybe Georgia, you can add FSU when they're up. Tennessee, Miami and Oklahoma are worthy of some consideration, but OK and TN are basically Michigan with a worse recruiting footprint.
Rodriguez was a schmuck when it came to recruiting. He alienated instate coaches and targeted many marginal talents with character issues early in the process. My favorite was in 2010 when he recruited five 3 star receivers (four of whom were his first commits in the class!) and one offensive lineman. This isn't a case of hindsight, I wailed insufferably about this as it was happening, too. Despite his ineptitude at talent evaluation and roster management even he did alright until he was firmly on the hot seat.
"OK and TN are basically Michigan with a worse recruiting footprint. "
Tennessee maybe...Oklahoma's recruiting footprint has included all of Texas for decades. They get more talent from Texas than Michigan gets from Ohio or any other neighboring school gets from Georgia.
Hiding in the weeds.
There was a like button for posts like these
They basically took 4 of the top 5 or 6 classes and called their coaches the best. Brilliant analysis.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
Costco is way better than Meijer!
Uh, had maybe one too many tonight? Why don't you go sleep this one off before you hurt somebody.
All that hate's gonna burn you up, kid.
If memory serves me correctly, didn't Mike Hart fumble twice at the goal line? Hart had the surest hands of any tailback in recent memory, and the game should've been a blow out win for us if this didn't happen. Meyer should be lucky to have even been in the game.
Take your weapon, strike me down with all your hatred and your journey towards the Dark Side will be complete. Your Hate has made you powerful.
Meijer is the best place for you northern types to pick up Mrs. Renfro's salsa...they've got varieties there we don't even get in this part of the country. Another thing I like about visiting the in-laws in Dayton. And Tim Hortons, of course.
It would be kinda cool if Meyer left the SEC to get away from Alabama, and winds up facing a Michigan team that looks and plays like Alabama.
Pretty solid list. Some things to consider. 1. Cannot argue with Sabin. I may like to, but I cannot.
2. I am glad to see Sweeney on this list. I thought he was more underrated as a recruiter. Apparently he is getting recognition.
3. Home will climb this list. The team is now built more in line with this staff's vision, and our number of high draft picks will start to increase soon
4. Meyer is overrated in my opinion. He pulls top talent, and is capable of getting who he wants, but I think outside the box here. It seems he recruits in a similar way to how the lions draft. He goes after the same player every year. He ignores the qb position fir 2-3 years at a time while he has 1, his rbs and rec. have always been tweener types, and he stays really thin on his fronts. he can obviously coach and can load up a team, but it seems he could struggle to maintain success. To be fair, this could be because he leaves early, and this trend might not continue if he's at Ohio for the long haul. I would love to hear other takes on this.
Might want to disable the autocorrect.
5) Kelly/Dabo/Franklin(can't decide who's best)
I would say that's my list. Out of that list only 2 maybe 3 are actually decent to good human beings, so I'll take Hoke any day of the week!
Look at the brightside of them ranking Hoke fifth, when he took this job all of his detractors pointed out how his record was barely over .500. Now he's the fifth best recruiter/coach in the country and just pulled in one of the greatest O-line classes ever and the #1 running back in the country.
I would think Kiffin would be on this list. It's one thing he does very well. Also, Mack Brown Consistently brings in a top 10 recruiting class.
He's the head coach at Texas. If you don't bring in a top 10 recruiting class consistently, you ARE the worst recruiter in college football.