MichiganMan14

October 22nd, 2016 at 4:54 AM ^

Sad to see him struggle so badly out there. I'm not sure that he's a Power 5 coach in general at this point.

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aratman

October 22nd, 2016 at 10:00 AM ^

I would be more than happy if he were the replacement for greg madison if he ever retires.  Think of the recruiting talent Hoke brought in at the position, he is a good line coach and a very good recruiter.  Maybe a quality control guy like Saban does with former USC head coaches so they are ready to replace the next coordinator that gets a head coach.  They are in place and know the system so there is no slow down in the process.

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jmblue

October 22nd, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^

I'm not sure how much the technique/responsibilities of a defensive line have changed since then. Mattison is still going strong as a DL coach. 

I think Hoke is qualified to be a DL coach here but it would be a bit awkward to have him around again when he was recently our head coach.  Maybe in five years.

 

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Dr. Emil Shuffhausen

October 22nd, 2016 at 11:57 AM ^

Nice guy, history with the program, good recruiter,

experienced DL coach are all good attributes.

It's the current drive, edge and mind-set of Harbaugh's

staff that must not be tainted by a less driven

nice guy mentality on the staff. 

Everyone is carefully picked and put in

place for optimum success.  There is no

room for Hoke and his way here, great guy

but there are much better options for us.

A lot of his decisions in his time here still

piss me off to no end.

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M-Dog

October 22nd, 2016 at 11:43 AM ^

Maybe a Power 5 DL coach.

Definitely that.  But he also did pretty well as a HC at San Diego State and Ball State.

I don't know that the door is completly locked for him to be a HC at a lower lavel.

He needs to get under the radar and get out of P5 . . . go back to his happy niche.

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SugarShane

October 22nd, 2016 at 9:17 AM ^

It's not sad at all. The dude is worth tens of millions of dollars. Anyone who feels bad for him is an idiot. I wish I got paid that much for sucking at my job because I was a "good guy"



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lhglrkwg

October 22nd, 2016 at 10:31 AM ^

He's a good guy who has done what most of us have tried - to work hard and keep moving up the ladder. Sadly, people fail all the time (see: the Peter Principle) and that's crappy for them. Hoke has gotten in over his head probably and should probably drop down a level or two to where he really fits.

Just because he makes a lot of money makes no sense. Maybe you're in over your head at a job making $30,000/year. A lot of people in the world living on less than $2/day would say the same about you. Doesn't mean we can't empathize with someone struggling with a job they're not cut out for

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Lakeyale13

October 22nd, 2016 at 9:25 AM ^

I would compare Hoke to Jeff Fischer in The NFL. Guy who gets chance after chance because he has been around the game so long and is truly as likeable and genuine man as you could want, but just can't get the job done consistently.

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SC Wolverine

October 22nd, 2016 at 9:40 AM ^

The thing is that he was reasonably successful as a head coach prior to coming to Michigan.  I wonder if he lost his confidence with his firing.  Brady's a great guy, though he failed miserably with us.  I hate to see him do so badly.  Maybe he does need to go back to a DL position and regroup his career.

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The Barwis Effect

October 22nd, 2016 at 5:28 AM ^

In the meantime, Hoke's predecessor, who's on pace to not win another game this season, is completely floundering in the desert. If coaching ability was dynamite, these two sorry souls wouldn't have enough to blow their noses. Hard to imagine seven years in the wilderness with those two at the helm. Thank goodness those days are over and thank you, Jim Hackett.



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lhglrkwg

October 22nd, 2016 at 10:33 AM ^

but it's looking more and more like Richrod has been overrated as a head coach and spread guru. He lit it up in the crappy Big East and took down some giants when the spread was still a new thing. Now that it seems like everyone has done it, it seems like the game has passed him by. He's really done nothing since leaving WVU and will probably find himself coaching a mid-major school soon

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cbuswolverine

October 22nd, 2016 at 11:25 AM ^

I know it's popular to hate on the guy, but stating that freaking Arizona will get rid of him is ridiculous. They haven't won their conference since 1993. This will be his first losing season there. Two years ago they were in the PAC-12 Championship game and possibly one win from a playoff berth.

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