rundown of Michigan's riser
Hoke: Norfleet to play cornerback
December 14th, 2012 at 9:13 PM | 
Norfleet
Norfleet
December 14th, 2012 at 8:45 PM |
Give Norfleet some freaking credit. The guy is
Give Norfleet some freaking credit. The guy is
an athlete. He started returning kicks as a true freshman and is obviously showing something to the coaches. Smallish athletes have been proving armchair pundits wrong for a long time.
I hope Dennis turns to be another "story" like a certain slow walk-on who played safety and became a team captain.
Your opinion has no value.
December 14th, 2012 at 8:47 PM |
Or perhaps we're going to be
Or perhaps we're going to be
Or perhaps we're going to be seeing a new RB come in very soon. :) Ok not for the bowl game ...*grumble grumble bryant gumbel*
December 14th, 2012 at 8:49 PM |
Hayes and Drake must be
Hayes and Drake must be
Hayes and Drake must be looking good. Or maybe they feel good about Green.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
December 14th, 2012 at 8:50 PM |
Or our OC doesn't know what
Or our OC doesn't know what
Or our OC doesn't know what to do with certain types of players.
December 14th, 2012 at 8:52 PM |
You know we have a head coach
You know we have a head coach
You know we have a head coach too, right? Maybe let's not blame everything on Al Borges.
December 14th, 2012 at 8:56 PM |
It's pretty well known that
It's pretty well known that
It's pretty well known that our head coach doesn't actually do anything other than recruiting, instructing the D-line and decide when to go for it during games.
December 14th, 2012 at 8:58 PM |
At least he does all of those
At least he does all of those
At least he does all of those things well.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:07 PM |
Not so much against
Not so much against
Ohio. 4th and 2, opening drive of the second half ring any bells.
It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!
December 14th, 2012 at 9:15 PM |
It was the right decision,
It was the right decision,
It was the right decision, just the wrong playcall... And Borges calls the plays.
And Hoke is also the leader. Never ever ever ever forget how he handled the Hagerup OH-NO punt mistake. I cannot overstate how much his handling of that situation means to the integrity of our program.
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
December 14th, 2012 at 9:18 PM |
Just because it didn't work
Just because it didn't work
Just because it didn't work doesn't make it a bad call. And one bad decision does not a bad decision maker make.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:11 PM |
Or
Or
Out OC wants to play players that fit his desired style of play and Fleet is not SO dynamic that Borges should change the offense around him. Of our coaching changes over the past few years have taught u's anything is that it is important to have players suited for your desired system.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:48 PM |
Hoke's recruit.
Hoke's recruit.
Norfleet was signed last year by Hoke. At the time, I seem to recall it was primarily to be a kick returner.
December 14th, 2012 at 8:51 PM |
Borges staking his claim for
Borges staking his claim for
Borges staking his claim for most obstinate offensive coach in last five years.
"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."
December 14th, 2012 at 8:58 PM |
To be fair, RR did try to
To be fair, RR did try to
To be fair, RR did try to convert Steven Threet into a run-first spread QB.
December 15th, 2012 at 12:56 AM |
Not really. That was a
Not really. That was a
Not really. That was a pretty balanced offense and, besides, it's not like Threet could throw the ball anyway. People act like we had 2001 Miami or 2004 USC when RR showed up. That team had just about nothing to work with. What difference would it have made it RR tried to install the Wishbone, the Air Raid, the spread option, or just stayed with a pro-style offense? Maybe we go from 3-9 to 5-7, max, and that's if that clown Mallett stayed and we ran pro-style. Seriously, who cares? This horse is dead, beaten, rotting, and rancid at this point. And what's worse, the point is moronic and counterfactual.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:22 PM |
Take out DeBord, and you've
Take out DeBord, and you've
Take out DeBord, and you've got the last 20 years covered.
M'Dog
December 14th, 2012 at 8:58 PM |
Hey look - another
Hey look - another
Hey look - another inexplicable, idiotic move by our coaching staff.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:04 PM |
Yeah right, the coaching
Yeah right, the coaching
Yeah right, the coaching staff that has taken the least talented Michigan teams in recent memory (at least 20+ years) and went 19-6. Im not saying to blindley listen to whatever they say but you act like they are incompentent. This is the best coaching staff Michigan has had since the Moeller days.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:06 PM |
Seriously - you'd think after
Seriously - you'd think after
Seriously - you'd think after such a dynamic season at running back, the coaches wouldn't dream of moving him around. However will we find someone to make up those 14 rushing yards against UMass?
December 14th, 2012 at 9:08 PM |
This
This
Exactly this. Hoke moved a player from a position where he was not going to contribute Rockne where he may.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:13 PM |
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right. Given our terrible depth at CB and all of our graduating players at that position, what we really need is a 5'6 RB to fill that gaps. Amazing how people here people on here reject even the most obvious criticisms of this coaching staff.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:17 PM |
"Another idiotic move by our
"Another idiotic move by our
"Another idiotic move by our coaching staff" is not an obvious criticism.
December 14th, 2012 at 10:12 PM |
So the staff that actually
So the staff that actually
So the staff that actually watches this kid everyday - the staff that is going for its 20th win in two years - is less-qualified to determine his proper position than you, random dude on the internet?
This staff isn't perfect, but they've gotten a hell of a lot more things right than wrong.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:25 PM |
He was a true freshmen.
He was a true freshmen.
He was a true freshmen. Regardless, I think most of the discontent is that he represents one of the only really quick, fast, shifty guys on offense. I doubt anyone here would argue that he should be a feature back, but it's frustrating that a guy who has shown flashes of strong athletic ability will never get worked into the offense in some capacity.
"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."
December 14th, 2012 at 9:07 PM |
Please explain
Please explain
How is it idiotic to move him from RB? Even this past year when our RBs were averaging like half a yard per carry (obviously not exactly, it was more like a full yard or something) he couldn't crack the top 3 RB spots. He rarely saw the field so perhaps he has limitations. Speculating, but maybe he fumbles, misses cuts, poor vision, drops on first contact - who knows.
Also, maybe his running style just doesn't fit what hoke wants to do.
I could see all of the angst if hoke were converting a stud RB to corner. But he is not. He is coverting a 4th string RB to corner.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:15 PM |
Dennis Norfleet will never
Dennis Norfleet will never
Dennis Norfleet will never see the field at corner. That's why it's idiotic.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:17 PM |
But Devin Norfleet might!
But Devin Norfleet might!
But Devin Norfleet might!
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December 14th, 2012 at 9:20 PM |
Do you know that he would at
Do you know that he would at
Do you know that he would at RB? As a sophomore, he'd be behind Fitz, Hayes and Rawls, and maybe behind a couple others too. It's not like he had a clear shot at RB either, especially since Hayes is his class and Rawls is only one above him.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:24 PM |
Ok, so don't put him at RB
Ok, so don't put him at RB
Ok, so don't put him at RB then.
December 14th, 2012 at 10:29 PM |
I think that's what they're
I think that's what they're
I think that's what they're doing.
December 14th, 2012 at 10:41 PM |
Believe it or not, there are
Believe it or not, there are
Believe it or not, there are more than two positions in football.
December 15th, 2012 at 1:51 AM |
True. they should give him
True. they should give him
True. they should give him a look at TE.
December 15th, 2012 at 2:24 AM |
Or LT since Lewan is probably
Or LT since Lewan is probably
Or LT since Lewan is probably leaving. Gosh these coaches are morons!
I poop excellence
December 15th, 2012 at 8:28 AM |
Speculating, but maybe he
Speculating, but maybe he
Speculating, but maybe he fumbles, misses cuts, poor vision, drops on first contact
Obviously you're speculating (see how I picked up on that), but wouldn't any of these traits also be worrisome for a kick returner? I suppose it is possible not to be able to pick out holes in a more compacted run from scrimmage but have the abilty to find the right route when tacklers are more spread out like in kick return.
"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:08 PM |
Just speculating here but...
Just speculating here but...
Norfleet seems like a kid who wants to contribute in any way shape or form. His attitude seems pretty emphatic when returning kick offs and hell the kid just excites me when he catches the ball and runs it out the endzone on kick offs. Maybe he wasn't happy with only returning kicks a few times a game and was looking for other ways to contribute so he had a sit down with the coaches about the depth chart and decided to give him a shot at corner as possibly the thinnest position. Does it necessarily mean he can't return to running back if the need arises? I mean look at Gardner.. QB to WR back to QB in less than half of a season roughly...
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December 14th, 2012 at 9:07 PM |
My theory.
My theory.
My theory is this is a trial run to see if he can be a good corner which I assume the coaches think there is a decent shot. If it doesn't work, they move him back to RB in the Spring or before Fall practice. It's not like learning RB is that hard that he couldn't go back before Fall practice and be able to play (ok, blocking is kind of hard but that's unlikely to be his specialty anyway).
I think the odds are near zero that he's moving to CB if they didn't expect him to be at least 2nd string at one of the CB positions (nickel?).
Remember, Borges RBs at SD State were small.
December 15th, 2012 at 9:34 AM |
His RB's were small because
His RB's were small because
His RB's were small because he was recruiting at...SDSU. Look at Auburn.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:08 PM |
I choose to see the upside in
I choose to see the upside in
I choose to see the upside in this by assuming we now have Derrick Green AND Ty Isaac in the bag... And Dorial Green-Beckham. That's why we didn't move Norfleet to slot.
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December 14th, 2012 at 9:31 PM |
For some reason I feel this
For some reason I feel this
For some reason I feel this is temporary for the Outback. I still see him as Michigan's next Percy Harvin/Quizz Rodgers.
December 14th, 2012 at 11:05 PM |
Hey dol, merry dol! Ring a
Hey dol, merry dol! Ring a
Hey dol, merry dol! Ring a ding dillo! Ring a don, hop along, fal all the willow! Tom Jom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!!!
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
December 14th, 2012 at 9:24 PM |
Im reserving judgement or opinions
Im reserving judgement or opinions
But i honestly cant remember a good 5'6" CB. I could be wrong but i really dont think there has been one here.
Its called a royale with cheese
December 14th, 2012 at 9:32 PM |
I don't think there has been
I don't think there has been
I don't think there has been one anywhere.
December 15th, 2012 at 2:27 AM |
I guess it's a good thing
I guess it's a good thing
I guess it's a good thing that he's 5'7"!
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December 14th, 2012 at 9:32 PM |
So so so stupid. Now that
So so so stupid. Now that
So so so stupid. Now that he's at corner, he'll never be able to produce on the offensive side of the ball. A school like Michigan isn't going to ever let a kid playing cornerback and line up on offense, right?
Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow
December 14th, 2012 at 9:34 PM |
"Schools" don't make
"Schools" don't make
"Schools" don't make decisions. Coaches do.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:37 PM |
Luckily Hoke was on that
Luckily Hoke was on that
Luckily Hoke was on that staff, so we're good.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:41 PM |
Ok, so because Hoke was on
Ok, so because Hoke was on
Ok, so because Hoke was on the staff 15 years ago when probably the best athelete in Michigan football history played both sides of the ball, Norfleet will be a successful on offense while playing corner?
December 14th, 2012 at 10:30 PM |
It certainly doesn't preclude
It certainly doesn't preclude
It certainly doesn't preclude that he will be successful on offense. I think what I've gleaned from this is, given I think for the most part the staff isn't completely retarded, is that by their judgment Norfleet probably can't cut it at RB so they decided to try him somewhere else. The sky is not, in fact, falling.
Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow
December 14th, 2012 at 9:34 PM |
Did you know that
Did you know that
Manti Teo would have been the first primarily defensive player to win the Heisman?
Sincerely,
ESPN
...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...
I like him but he is not elite - he is a fast kid who may or may not be good at rb or corner.