Is Hoke negatively recruiting?

Submitted by Gobluegr on
No, Brady Hoke is not. And while most people on this blog already knew this, there has been some people that beg to differ. In a recent interview of Kyle Kalis by Sporting News, Kalis said this about how Hoke recruited him “People think that he does all of this negative recruiting, but he does no such thing. Any time my dad brought up anything about Ohio State, coach would actually stop him and say ‘I’m not going to say anything about that situation. It’s unfortunate and I hope they can get over this hump.’ " If you would like to read the full article (relatively short) here is the link: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-08-07/brady-hoke-r…

Philbert

August 7th, 2011 at 3:17 PM ^

I was about to go on a rant when I saw your title and figured you had been sipping some of that bucknuts Koolaid and then I read it and was like.. O not what I was expecting it to say. Your pulling a page out of scouts books by having a very interesting title And then it being not what you expected.

go16blue

August 7th, 2011 at 3:22 PM ^

But wasnt there that other news about how he was telling recruits not to fall for the same stuff USC coaches told recruits? Or was that just a bucknuts rumor?

chris1709

August 7th, 2011 at 3:43 PM ^

From everything ive heard Hoke is not into negative recruiting. But if he could negatively recruit succesfully i would not care at all. As long as we end up with top talent, I dont care how it got here (of course nothing against the rules). With that said I dont think negative recruiting is the way to go, and neither does Hoke.

mejunglechop

August 7th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^

I don't. I'm not advocating for Hoke spreading rumors like "Luke Fickel has anal cancer and will die before you graduate" or "Bret Bielema likes having sex with dead girls". But I don't see what's wrong with suggesting to say a star qb recruit considering PSU and OSU to try and think of the last guy they put in the league.

Bill in Birmingham

August 7th, 2011 at 6:05 PM ^

Wow, I heard it wrong. I didn't think it was Craig James who killed the five hookers. I thought it was Craig James who said someone killed five hookers. As in, "ESPN just reported that Craig James said Mike Leach killed five hookers." Thanks for clearing that up for me.

PIJER

August 7th, 2011 at 4:57 PM ^

There isn't a need to negatively recruit when you can truthfully say. "You may be able to do as well, but you can't get any better than Michigan"

lhglrkwg

August 7th, 2011 at 5:21 PM ^

if its true. why should hoke refrain from saying "ohio state is going to sanctioned like mad" when they probably are going to get sanctioned like mad. it's how sales works and he's selling the football program

FreddieMercuryHayes

August 7th, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^

Eh, well negative recruiting can bite you in the ass down the road if you aren't careful with what you say.  Pointing out that another team is real deep in a certain position, and playing time is more available at your school isn't negative recruiting in my opinion, even though some people feel it is.  But, as someone here posted a while back, imagine such a conversation between Hoke and Recruit X who is also considering OSU, in which Hoke promises OSU will get smashed by the NCAA.  Recruit X commits to UM because he doesn't want sanctions against him.  Then if OSU gets off scott-free, Recruit X comes back to Hoke and says "what the hell coach.  You lied to me."  That's the kind of stuff that can bite you in ass and hurt you down the road in recruiting.  And it's something I think Hoke is smart enough avoid.

And for all those wondering, yes, Recruit X is a class of 2013 silent commit that was attending prep school at Xavier's School for the Gifted.

True Blue Grit

August 7th, 2011 at 6:36 PM ^

Today's H.S. players and their parents are much more savvy than yesteryear.  If they hear our team's coaches badmouthing another team, it can come off like "Hmmm, maybe their program isn't so good if they have to resort to negative recruiting against the other school'.   Michigan doesn't have to do that kind of shit.  We have a tremendous product to sell and Coach Hoke knows it.  Besides, negative recruiting is likely in the long run to attract the wrong kinds of players - IMO.  For one thing, if they're easily swayed by a bunch of BS that really doesn't pertain to our school, what else are they likely to get talked into?  Accepting cars and tatoos for autographs?  No thank you. 

Thanks for sending the link.  This definitely reaffirms what I already believed about Coach Hoke. 

bronxblue

August 7th, 2011 at 7:59 PM ^

Pointing to a newspaper and saying "see" doesn't strike me as negative recruiting.  That's what always drove me crazy about the Bucknut stories with Hoke.  Hoke doesn't need to talk down other programs - he's the coach of the University of Michigan, the winningest program in CFB history and one of the best sports programs in the world.  If a kid wants to go here, he'll go here because Hoke talked up the virtues of the school and the team, not because he pointed out that OSU is in a world of hurt because their coach was a liar.

Tater

August 7th, 2011 at 10:09 PM ^

Ohio always negatively recruits Michigan, so of course they think Michigan is doing the same, because it's all they understand.  Besides, it sure sounds a lot better than "we got caught cheating and kids are leaving so fast it seems like Moses is coaching in Ann Arbor right now."