Brandon came off as a huge dick. Especially his comments about "Hoke doesn't need to learn the Victors, he already knows it" and things like that seemed like thinly veiled attacks on Rodriguez.
Hoke Came Off Well, Brandon Not So Much
Yea that was pretty bad. I get what he was going for, but for better or worse on the field, RR was a good ambassador for the program as a person. He deserves more respect than that.
I never regarded RR as a great ambassador for the school. I sort of cringed whenever he spoke. But I did think DB was needlessly shoveling dirt on Rich. He also made too many digs about other candidates (Miles, no doubt). He sounded spiteful and haughty. And defensive. Just celebrate Hoke and sit down, Dave.
The apparent muddled and sloppy transition from RR to Hoke may not have been so. Consider this scenario: Brandon wanted to replace RR with Hoke at some earlier and appropriate time, say after the OSU debacle, but that would have created a firestorm (i.e. after firing RR, what’s the rush? where’s the national search with $ as no obstacle). DB needed to create a plausible artifice. Hence, he waits weeks until 2011 to begin his (as the sole search “committee” member) very public pursuit of two desirable but unobtainable “Michigan men” (Harbaugh and Miles) and his self-proclaimed whirlwind tour of unnamed but eminent coaching candidates (which he can never name), leaving him at the last moment - with signing day imminent - with the savior Hoke to parachute in without even inquiring about salary. DB did not get to be a CEO of a corporation run by venture capitalists by being a stumbler or accidental genius. Whether his Machiavellian shenanigans are also appropriate for a great public university is another question.
So he punched an opposing player? He payed recruits? I mean, if you don't like the guy fine, but I don't think there's cause for his former boss cracking jokes about him after he's been fired.
From what I watched Brandon came off as a guy with a weight lifted off his shoulders, relaxed, and happy. He cracked jokes with the press, etc. Honestly, I tohught it was pretty good. Maybe I missed something? I was listening to the upload on youtube while watching the end of FSU v Duke.
So we can expect that kind of thing to continue for a while. Whether we like it or not, the athletic department and our former Carr players were all looking for the anti-RR and so that is what we got.
Hope he does well, and that this works. Coaches are sometimes a crap shoot, as we have found out. Let's see how he does before we either raise him to sainthood or start burying him.
I think we need to be careful throwing that around. While I know what you're getting at, RR was a pretty good guy and had some good qualities as a person. From what I've seen, Hoke shares some of those qualities. I was especially impressed with how Hoke acknowledged RR right away in the presser. I think Hoke showed a lot more class than Brandon in that regard.
I agree completely. Though I think the poster above wasn't taking a stab at RR at all.
Hoke was very classy and very impressive. We just need to remember that the clock is ticking with him now. We all gave him his due as the new Michigan coach today, but come tomorrow it's time to back up the talk with good hires, a halfway decent job salvaging this class and keeping Denard and Co. around.
I for one am giving him the benefit of the doubt until he gives me reason to do otherwise.
there are numerous people willing to write him off and chase him off before he gets started.
I think rr could have gotten it done with a new defensive staff, but that doesn't mean I'm going to hate the new guy just because I did like the old guy.
That's exactly where I'm at. But I guess I just realized that no matter how much I wish RR was still the coach (Randy fucking Shannon was available!), in no way is this Hoke's fault, or the team's fault. They both deserve all of us behind them for now.
Hoke-A-Mania runs wild!
As others said, don't think the poster was saying anything about Rich. The past players, Lloyd Carr, the media, etc. seemed to hate Rich and made him feel like an outsider. It's actually pretty sad because while these are the people we root for, they are at the same time destroying any respect I have for them by further tarnishing Rich's name. Rich Rodriguez is a great coach/guy and I hope he gets his name back from the 'bad guy' reputation he's been given by West Virginia and then furthermore, us.
I supported RR and wanted him to have another year with a new defensive staff. My point was that DB went for the exact opposite of RR in this hire. No hot young genius in the making coach move. I think Hoke will do fine, but we need to wait and see how he works out. Might be good, might be great, might be just ok. I don't think we will see the epic transition fail that RR suffered through in his first two years simply because of where Hoke gets to start.
Yeah, there was one particular instance when he seemed to be taking a silent jab at RR when he was saying that he was looking for a coach who could adapt to the roster at hand and not be narrowminded in terms of thinking their way to do things is the only way to do things.
Maybe, but isn't that we want? I don't think anyone wants to go through another player exodus like in 2008. It is incumbent on Hoke that he adapt to what he's inheriting.
It's definitely what we want. I was just furthering the idea that it was unnecessary for DB to sneakily bring RR into the discussion of our new coach.
than brady hoke claim to be up for adapting.
If Hoke and Borges can't effectively run a spre'n'shred, then they shouldn't even bother.
Just look at how well Greg Robinson adapted to the 3-3-5
The only jabs I saw were pointed squarely at Bill Martin.
And at the media.
Agree with controversialidea 100%.
A lot of what DB said at the beginning... he came off as, well, a DB.
Seemed like he was taking thinly veiled cheap shots at Rodriguez for not being a "Michigan Man" and that he was placating the media and the Carr-folk saying, "Look, I went out and got you what you wanted."
At one point in the introductory comments at the beginning, he even mentioned that Hoke knows his way around Ann Arbor already.... as if that's somehow a positive asset we should have been looking for in our football coach.... which caused me to scream, "What the fuck does that have to do with anything!?" at my computer screen and made me want to throw things.
I was willing to give Brandon the benefit of the doubt until today, but, the press conference in my mind clearly demonstrated that he was looking at all the wrong criteria in his hiring decision, and, pandering to the media and former players in getting someone from the "Michigan Man" club took precedence over who will be the coach that will put us in the best position to win.
As others have said, it seems like this hire indicates we've resigned ourselves to aiming at being a regional power at best (underscored by all the emphasis on B10 championships instead of Natoinal Championships) and that is sad.
With the RR hire, it may have been a swing and a miss, but at least we were swinging for the fences.
Now it seems like we're not even trying.
All that said, maybe Hoke will work out great here and be the right guy to take us to the promised land. I hope that's the case and I hope he succeeds beyond all of our wildest expectations.
But, DB's reasons for hiring him seem horribly misguided to me.
I thought it was weird how Hoke consulted DB when the press asked about the timeline, etc.
I give Brandon a pass today. I agree he came off a bit loose temptered, but I'm going to chalk that up to being sleep depraved as he kept saying. I know if I dont get at least 7 hours of sleep every night, I'm a cranky SOB
Sleep-depraved != sleep-deprived. Though now I'm curious what sleep-depraved is...
It seemed like he was saying to everyone, "Fuck you, get off my back. What kind of crazy lunatics follow a guy on flightaware during a coaching search?" We do, that's who. Get used to it, Dave.
In the age of the internets. He is going to get a good night's sleep and regret this press conference in the morning.
Not sure he'll regret it. Certainly, he won't regret the mini-reunion. I've got a cogent thought somewhere in here, but will have to save for another time. It's going to take a bit for me to put down. Even longer for BH as a choice to be validated/invalidated...
It was getting a little wierd.
Look, he obviously is not going to say that he offered the job to JH and LM and they are not going to say he offered it to them either. Pretty obvious that he talked with both at some point and sought their advice and also let it be known that we were interested if they were interested. I'm sure it was one of those wink wink and nod nod conversations so that both sides could say that the job was not offered.
No win situation, if he tells who he talked to beyond what was specifically known (Fitzgerald/Miles), it hurts Michigan and does not necessarily help the guy who he spoke with.
Didn't Jim say he had offers on the table from Stanford and Michigan at his press conference with the Niners?
he said he spoke to both and considered both but wanted to be in the nfo. db said last week and this week that when he spoke with harbaugh harbaugh made it clear he wanted to go to the nfl. he went to the nfl- so i don't fault db. had he stayed at stanford- that would have been a collossal failure.
he had an offer at the ready? I don't. Exploraory interviews are part of good due diligence IMHO.
Preach on Wendy. Did it ever occur to DB that Michigan football is a lot bigger deal than his Domino's Pizza?
he probably could give a shit. If Hoke turns into BO#2 etc. he will be a God in Ann Arbor. I think he has a supreme confidence in himself. CEO's usually aren't regular guys who care about peons questioning their decisions. There are exceptions of course, but rare.
David Brandon is a businessman first and an athletic director second. The rhetoric about increasing the profitability of the AD and this phantom coaching search has me convinced that he's committed to building the "brand" over all other priorities. How do you build a football brand? Restore the NFL pipeline. How do you restore the pipeline? Hire a coach your NFL bully-boys will rally around and fawn over in the media. Done and done.
Of course, as a non-football player, I'm vulnerable to "you don't know the game, get off my lawn"-type arguments, but that's what the politics looks like to me.
if they got hung with a new rope. Brandon was great. Both he and Brady reminded me of Bo more than once. Brandon is a very impressive guy especially in person. Understand that the Michigan Athletic Department is first and foremost about the student athletes. In that context DB did it exactly right.
even closely resembles Bo with the exception of employment at University of Michigan.....
I would complain if I was getting hung with anything other than toliet paper. Strange analogy but you get a +1 anyway.
Is it poor form to have a Papa John's advertisement on the left side of this page as I am writing this? Just curious.
Hoke was more impressive than I thought he would be. I came into it upset about the way he was hired, and about him maybe not being ready for this job, but I left with a great impression. If he can get through this offseason with the team intact and put together a good staff, it should be hard to argue that he isn't a winner, and probably a good hire.
Hey did you guys hear that Dave Brandon went to five cities in six days? I think it's just a rumor.
that he hasn't gotten much sleep lately, but I'm waiting for my several anonymous sources to confirm this.
Fair enough on the confidentiality. But I still think he spoke with others only as a formality. I think it's been Hokemania for a while. Also, if he was just offered yesterday how did they coordinate 40 former players to schedule flights with 12 hours notice to be at the presser? Seemed like that may have been coordinated a few days ago to me?
But I still think he spoke with others only as a formality. I think it's been Hokemania for a while.
Even if you assume that Brandon had decided on Hoke last week, six weeks ago, or even six months ago, do you really think Brandon would have been stupid enough to simply fire Rodriguez last week and immediately hire Hoke? How well do you think that would have been received compared to the way things actually played out?
There were two other, higher-profile, Michigan-connected candidates out there. Brandon couldn't ignore them, the way that Bill Martin ignored Miles last time. The way Martin handled the last search undermined Rodriguez from day one.
I think it's possible that Harbaugh had a chance at the job first, but he essentially eliminated himself by choosing to the NFL. I don't believe Brandon was ever going to offer Miles the job, and I don't think Miles even wanted it this time around (he clearly did want it last time). I think Brandon and Miles basically conspired to make it appear that Miles had been offered the job and turned it down. Miles thus eliminated himself as well.
Brandon had to go through this process in order to--publicly--eliminate the other candidates, so that no one within the Michigan "family" (former players/coaches and fans) has a reason to be pining for Harbaugh or Miles or a reason to do or say anything to undermine Hoke.
And, in my opinion, Brandon was very smart to have handled the search in this way, and I for one couldn't be happier with the outcome.
And there is no way he could have "done this on Nov 28" as others have mentioned. He fires RR and hires Hoke on Nov 28, and everyone is left wondering about Harbaugh, Miles, etc. And he couldn't have hired JH on Nov 28 cuz JH wasn't going to come at that point in time. If getting someone with UM ties was immensely important, as it appears to be, then the way it was done was really the only way.
That was my point exactly if you follow...with the exception that it was "smart"
So you are so concerned with only one short-term thing--this year's recruiting class--that you would have been happier if Brandon had hired Hoke immediately after firing Rodriguez last week? Because I can guarantee that the bitching and moaning about Brandon on this board would be multiplied tenfold or more if he had done that.
Do you not understand that getting the program back on track for the long term is more important than one recruiting class?
the 40 former players? I heard a handful of names mentioned at the press conference. I believe most if not all are local to Ann Arbor. Not being a smartass.. I truly have not heard about 40 former players being there. Where did you see this?
get off of DB's ass? Let's face it- the only thing we have searched for is a mate or a 12 pack at Kroger's. He is an administrator and you need a master's degree minimum to understand that. Brady Hoke is the best coach for us now and the process was a success.
I have a masters degree, but I don't understand what that has to do with understanding DB.
that he was basically lying when he said he'd conduct a national search.
I am on board with Hoke and I liked his press conference, but it was very evident that DB's national search really was actually focused on 3 possible people, all of whom had Michigan connections (JH, LM and BH).
Brandon reiterated he did a national search today, then followed up by saying that it was vital the candidates had experience recruiting in the area, then made the comments about not having to teach the Victors to the coach.
If Hoke ultimately works out here, that doesn't necessarily mean that Brandon had the open mind and open search that he claimed he was going to run.
I have two masters degrees . . . What are we talking about again?
the new rocket science, yo. I'm going to start using it the phrase liberally.
"Come on, honey, we're making PB&Js for the kids, here. Geez, this isn't adminstrating!"
"Ed, you need to CC on those emails to HR. It's not that hard to remember, is it? It's not like this is adminstration."
LOL your argument is seriously laughable as it's based entirely on an appeal to authority/expertise.... "DB has a master's degree ergo he's right and you all are wrong". Seriously, that's what your post amounts to.
why that school in ohi should be afraid of Brady Hoke!
We have the blessing of Gordon "Little Sisters of the Poor" Gee. Rock and roll guys!
I feel obligated to post this sarcastically for the perceived good of the board.
Where is Ohi? When did it get it's own school? Why should they be afraid of BH?
*fingers crossed in hopes that I spelled everything correct and was grammatically perfect, lest there be repercussions*
I didn't bash Hoke if you noticed. I like the hire. I bashed the process.
It is possible that Brandon did exactly what he said.
Hoke, I'm happy for. Got his dream job. Loved his answer to Sharp, which might as well have been a ring-encrusted middle finger.
I mean, shit, though, there's a million ways Brandon could have done this better. Starting with not making it look like Hoke was the fallback choice. One of the stupidest things I ever read was that the reason Brandon was in Baton Rouge was because he was getting Les Miles' advice re: Hoke. Well shit man, that could have been done with a phone call, so, Brandon's line about nobody else being offered the job is phony as hell. Kind of like how the Big Ten wasn't going to invite any school that hadn't already said they would definitely accept.
I think some people are reading way to much into his comments. No leader(CEO or Politician) is going to give the details of his process to th the public or let alone the media.
Obviously the guy was tired and direct to the point, but I watched it after the fact and didn't find him to be to dickish.
Hoping that Hoke would give him this look when Drew Sharp asked a question.
Hoping that Hoke would give him this look when Drew Sharp asked a question.
I like that he was a little bit of a dick. I just didn't like that he insulted my intelligence by stating that he just offered Hoke yesterday, got 40 former players on flights from different cities to A2 with less than a days notice, etc, etc.
The whole thing has been coordinated which is a testimate to his organizational and political skills.
But my intelligence is insulted when he stands there and says he just decided on Hoke yesterday and that the whole thing hasn't been a big coordinated charade.
We don't know if he was lying about offering Hoke yesterday because:
1. Hoke was still working as normal for SDSU at that time (recruiting)
2. Couldn't locate Hoke and directly spoke to Hoke's wife at the press conference about that
3. He might have had a list of people ready to show up at the the press conference prior to all of this due to his time line of wanting a coach
Why do you care to know so much about the behind-the-scenes hiring process? Brandon hired what he believed to be the best guy for Michigan and that's all that matters. When I get a job offer I don't care if I was their first or last choice, and neither should you. Even if he had Hoke at the top of the list the whole time, he needed to be sure that he was the right guy and thus evaluated other candidates as well. We will never know the full details of his search, and that's the way it should be.
Stop trying to stir up drama. Brandon did the best job he could as a first time AD. The program is in good hands. Worry about something else. Move on.
Brandon wasn't honest about what was happening, which, fine. But he also wants to portray himself as the upstanding virtuous Michigan Man. Which, not fine. Can't have it all, Brandon.
But we can make noise about our dislike for Dave Brandon.
He needs to go.
If/when Hoke doesn't work out in a few years, Dave Brandon is the last person we need to run the coaching search.
Was glad to see firedavebrandon.com is under construction. Hopefully something will come out there.
Are you serious with this?
A Superbowl MVP, NFL defensive MVP, former coaches, and just about everyone who played for Hoke at Michigan and other schools all think he is perfect for the job, but because you wanted something else, the athletic director needs to be fired?
What little respect I had for conversations on message boards is quickly dissapearing.
The board has closed ranks behind Hoke. It wouldnt matter if he was a third year med student that had never seen a football field before, now that DB has annointed him and the search is over the vast majority of the board is going to hold hands and sing kumbaya cause he's a "Michigan Man".
I just have one question for the pro-Hoke crowd.....who would be a WORSE hire? Who did Brady beat out that you'd say "man am I glad we dont have THAT guy coaching us."?
How do you know Hoke is a bad hire? The guy hasn't coached a single game as head coach.
i second that. Hoke gets 3 years to prove it or shut up.
Interesting to hear that jab about Bill Martin. At least he had the courage to go against the Carr clique and choose from the outside. He displayed more character in that decision than some others.
But then he retired and left Rich Rod without cover which is why he got fired. $10 says D Brandon gives Hoke waaaaay more time than Rich Rod to turn things around.
Brandon is a turd. Hole came off well. But it does bother me that he hasn't spoken with the players back in SD. I understand he had no time this week. But shouldn't he really go back and talk to them? I hate when coaches just bolt.
To be fair we don't know that he hasn't spoken to the players back in SD. Could have been a conference call due to the timeline. Maybe he will go back and talk to them also; you're just making an assumption here.
He didn't meet with the team because he couldn't--SDSU is on break right now and the students won't be back until next Tuesday. He did send them all a text message, per a Chengelis article:
"That's the thing that you hate," Hoke said of not being able to tell his players face-to-face of his departure. "I blasted a text message and told them we had made a decision."
No, I'm not. He said he sent them a group-text. He made no mention of going back.
You can't criticize DB for using the pimp hand that we all anointed him with. I thought he did a great job with divulging as much information about the search as he could. Obviously some parts of the hiring process should never be made public and we must respect that.
Plus, the last two minutes of the presser, where he was describing what it is to be michigan. That was some moving shit. This guy loves michigan just as much as Hoke.
...about the last two minutes of the presser. He really put his heart on his sleeve there.
Another thing to keep in mind, he was speaking primarily to the "PRESS." He wasn't talking to fans, former players, alumni (i guess some of the press are alumni, including Drew Dull), etc. I am glad he put them in their place. These were the same people who were crapping on the program. DB knows that and wasn't ready to make kissy face with them just because they fawned over Hoke.
Bo, Mo, Lloyd all BLED maize and blue. They weren't the most sophisticated or innovative. We loved them because they loved UM so much and were passionate, caring, and tenacious. I get the same feeling from Hoke.
To MGOLITERAL: The reason I care about the process is because we lost recruits. I didn't say anything about the first choice or last choice and don't care about that. I simply stated, based on relevant evidence, that Brandon has known who his choice was for a period of time longer than the last 24 hours (which he implied). So if he knew, what was the reason for putting on the charade and sabotaging the recruiting class? That is at the heart of my post.
I'm curious as to the relevant evidence that Brady Hoke was his man all along? Again, I'll reiterate a point I thought of before the dismissal of RichRod and the press conference comment, if you are in the business world, you are constantly considering your succession plans. So yes, I'm sure Brandon had a list of potential contacts in mind.
Now, when you stop thinking that this search HAS to have been like most other coaching searches, most hiring processes involve assembling candidates and actually interviewing all of them first. This process gives you a chance to actually use data, interviews, and recommendations to select the best coach, not just the flavor of the week. I think he was high on Hoke, but again, why even reach out to Fitzgerald. Outside of this blog (of which I was one of many that advocated for before and after the firing) no one was talking about Fitz, so it's not like asking to interview would be appeasing anyone (like Harbaugh/Miles). Also, I'm actually applying for a coaching job right now, had my second interview today, but during the initial interview, I was told that I was probably the strongest candidate out of all four initially interviewed. But that doesn't mean I was going to get the job, they are doing their due diligence. I might not click with some of the current staff that would be working under me.
Finally, what is your evidence that some of those who have defected might have stayed with a Hoke hiring anyhow. Would more time help - possibly, but not guaranteed. DB played under Bo Schembechler. He has a degree from UofM. He was a CEO of Domino's Pizza. He's a former regent, and now an athletic director. I think he's earned a bit more respect and our patience.
What relevant evidence? Umm... Dave Brandon said Hoke was his first choice and he didn't offer the job to anyone else.
By the way, Dave Brandon is a douchebag and he definitely seems like a corrupt politician. Don't like him and I get the sense that he's "fake" (hate using that word... 12 year old girls say that).
... I thought he came off well, and I know I am in the minority.
He was being a dick (which I liked) because this process has been undermined by the very people who claim to support the program. The flight tracking, the immediate meltdown by the blog fanbase, the tweet rumor mongering, helped make this thing a circus. Brandon even said all that stuff was not helpful and I think he has the right to be upset. If we're honest about it, we made this a circus by our reaction, not him.
From what it sounds like, he talked to a bunch of people and in the end he got a good coach who will build men of character out of boys. He will build Michigan men. Winning without integrity was never an option for me, and I for one am happy that within one week we have someone at the helm of the football team that is as passionate about Michigan and about the development of our youth as I am. This is a testament to Brandon's decision.
Are you implying that JH and LM, the other two most talked about candidates, have no integrity? Or perhaps that was meant for RR? Totally uncalled for in all three instances in my opinion.
... I have no beef with RR. Les Miles integrity can be challenged and should. JH made some questionable comments about Michigan to improve Stanford's image. That is not the action of a man with integrity. He owed so much to the very school he was criticizing just for his own personal gain.
I agree. None of the search needs to be made public...you are missing my point. He should have just thrown politics aside and made his choice the second he knew he had his man. He would have salvaged the recruiting class.
Then again, Hoke has a few weeks to hopefully salvage the class. If he comes across to them as he did to me today at the presser, we might be alright.
Obviously DB is in the position he is because he is a smart guy. At this point, I will just assume that there are reasons unknown to me that he had to do it this way. I just can't think of one.
He *had* to pursue Harbaugh to the depth's end. And I'm sure that was his plan. Everybody, including me, would have disavowed the program if he had hired Hoke a month ago.
And I'm not buying the argument that all these flights take a week to get lined up; they don't. At any rate, don't you think everybody that showed up today would have been thrilled with JH as well? Or Miles? If I Were DB, I'd have them lined up no matter who the coach was. It only makes sense.
Bottom line is, you can have your theories that this was all a charade to dupe you, and sure some of that necessarily goes on with something very public that one is trying to keep private, but you can't objectively judge a guy on what you don't know.
Little extreme but the first example in my head. Just because OJ Simpson was proven not guilty and I don't officially know that he committed double murder, doesn't mean I can't objectively judge him.
To me he came off extremely defensive and even weak at times.
Brandon usually exudes confidence and self assuredness, but you could tell the stress from unhappy fans has gotten to him.
Believe me, he's going to do everything he can to get Hoke to win. If not, he's going to feel 10x more pressure for firing Rich Rodriguez, especially when Rich lands somewhere else and goes to BCS bowls.
Love what Hoke said about not supporting Michigan (RR)
"Shame on us."
I'm not a Brandon fan anymore. I really liked RR and wanted him for 1 more season, but I support Hoke like I supported Lloyd and RR.
After watching that press conference, I am 100% more excited about Hoke. He brings and intensity and understanding of, not only big ten football, but MICHIGAN FOOTBALL, that RR was lacking.
ok admittedly I didn't catch all of it but I don't understand all the criticism of DB's performance at the pc. If he was a dick, and I would describe him as having an edge, good. Why should he bow down to the fools in the press. The guy's smarter and more accomplished than probably anyone in the room. More to the point, he's probably pissed at the media. What people don't seem to understand is that its the media and to an extent people like us on the internet that portrayed the search in a particular way, that Hoke looks like plan C after JH and Miles said no with no one else even being considered. I believe thats not how it went. I may be wrong but none of us know.
I'm not thrilled with the the hire (although its growing on me), certainly not thrilled with the timing (RR should have been let go after the OSU game), and if the process was as it was portrayed to be, then obviously thats a nightmare. But his performance at the PC? Rock solid.
He took a shot at LM and JH coaches who everyone and there mother knows should have been the HC in AA. However I liked how he said he went to 6 cities in 5 days. Props to DB he researched this well. Sure if I was DB this process could of been avoided after the OSU game. Im not the AD. So kudos to DB getting the right guy that wants to be here!
Though DB was in a tough spot on what he could say without calling Hoke a second or third option, he handled it very poorly. I turned off my radio after a while.
What I came away with on Brandon in today's presser is that either he thinks we're all stupid or he is far more stupid than we all think.
As for Hoke, I am 100% on board with him after today. Some things need to shake out with the staff, etc. But he said and did all the right things and came off a little less "I'm here to fix what the last guy broke" than I expected.
Sorry about being a dick like allegedly DB was, but I was impressed with his handling of the presser, especially with all the work he's put in.
I guess most of you haven't been involved in management or in hiring managers, vice presidents, etc, but it's much different in the business world than in the athletic world. And it shows why so many athletic coach hires are absolute disasters.
Usual coaching search goes something like this: AD gets all hot and bothered over coach du jour and puts all eggs in that basket. They get sloppy, media gets leaks, and either they pour out tons of money to get the hot coach, or the hot coach turns it in and gets a big pay increase to stay. Then said AD panics and starts reaching at straws for hires. Alumni get upset, boosters complain, and usually they end up with third or fourth choice that was never on the AD's radar and usually a panic hire.
Isn't that what happened here. NO, absolutely not. Brandon mentioned from the firing presser that as a CEO, you are always involved in succession planning. This was always a topic at work. Who were you grooming to take your position should you move to another company, get promoted, or get hit by a bus. Hey, it happens. So Brandon had a list all along, and from the initial press conference, it was obvious that he wasn't going after Harbaugh. So what exactly happened.
He did conduct a national search. We know for sure he talked to Miles - there was no way to keep that one quiet. Rumors are he did talk to Gruden - unconfirmed. We know he wanted to talk with Fitzgerald (who I believe was at the top of his list) and was rebuffed. A good hiring process involves interviewing ALL potential candidates until you either interviewed them all, or you happen to have that interview that you know you won't do better.
Brandon comes from the corporate world. He mentioned he ran numbers and looked at the data. I thought it was interesting some of the tid bits he dropped about successful vs. unsuccessful coaches over the past 25 years or so. You can find a pattern and move on that. Recruiting is key and he pointed that out.
Sorry we didn't get Harbaugh or Miles. But I'm not sure they were ever in the mold, or that they were ever offered. I'm sorry Brady Hoke isn't a sexy hire, but neither was Jim Tressel, or Pete Carroll at USC. Others included in non-sexy hires included Mike Price at Washington State, Les Miles at LSU, Gary Pinkel at Missouri, and others I'm sure. There have been sexy hires that have been fizzles like - Lane Kiffin at Tennessee, Howard Schnellenberger at Oklahoma, Butch Davis at UNC, Rick Neuhisal (take your pick anywhere, but lets focus on UCLA), Mike Stoops at Arizona, Dennis Erickson at ASU, Steve Kragthorpe at Louisville, Bill Callahan at Nebraska, and oh yeah, Rich Rodriguez at Michigan.
David Brandon shouldn't be fired or even doubted. Lets see what Coach Hoke does first, and then he'll get his evaluation.
I guess most of you haven't been involved in management or in hiring managers, vice presidents, etc, but it's much different in the business world than in the athletic world.
How's it going up there on your high horse, Mr. President? Just cut the Athletic Dept. their annual check and talk down to the folks on mlive.
It has become clear that Dave Brandon should not read from a script. Today's opening comments were dull and somewhat uninspiring compared to his usual self.
Then, at the end when he took the podium back and spoke from the heart, he was direct, he was from the heart, and he was powerful. All of his responses seemed genuine and on point.
The last two minutes of the speech literally moved me... Please go back and watch the last 2 minutes.
"This is about football players. This is about changing young men's lives. This is about bringing leadership in here who makes a difference in the lives of Young Men. And they leave here with a Championship ring. And they leave here with a great education. And they go out and do great things in life.
"Michigan Men do that. They create other Michigan Men.
"And the guy that you just met is all about that. He's all about that. And he didn't spend as much time with a PR machine as others may. And he may not be dressed up and polished like the Toastmaster General like other people...
"And I don't care. I want a football coach. I want a football coach who's going to do with these Men what we want him to do - Teach them what to learn, and win.
"That's Michigan." /End Press Conference.
Maybe I'm crazy, but if that doesn't make you want to do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwW_y2TuW58 to the Ohio border, then I think all good is lost in this world.
this is strangely familiar...like i just read it on facebook...
You must have totally awesome friends.
I was perfectly okay with his comments. I think someone needs to absorb the heat that the entire athletic department has been receiving for a while, and I'm okay with the AD taking certain facets of the coaching search personally.