Not a huge surprise, but Justin Hilliard and Jashon Cornell have both committed to Ohio State.
Not a huge surprise, but Justin Hilliard and Jashon Cornell have both committed to Ohio State.
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Pretty lame response...I cant stand responses like this. What is the point? You are either suggesting that any player that picks another school did so because of some illegal benefit OR you are trying to be humorous by repeating a joke that has been recycled 10,000 times.
They picked OSU..Its too bad as Michigan would have loved to get them but will move on at LB to Bilal, Thompson, and Masina.
I'm a garbage man, recycling is what I do best.
Glad I added some value to this conversation with this post.
making this an individual post but decided against it.
Good luck with this one, dude.
Hey, alright! Great start to hump day, guys!
That they chose to do this today adds to the mounting evidence that OSU is anti-America. Anyone who suggests that this doesn't make sense is also anti-America.
And there is no gray area.
I actually thought Hilliard was a bright dude. Didn't think he would fall for the used car salesman approach.
Not to be a Debby Downer, but it most likely had more to do with a "we win games" approach than the supposed used car salesman approach.
Well then they probably failed to read the fine print. Classic mistake.
Congrats to them. They'll get theirs, and we'll get ours. It does suck a little bit.
Just Win Baby
Just effing win. Be tough about it too. Sick of getting bitch slapped by Dantonio. Sick if his stupid fucking "Lyin' in the weeds"...."sometimes you gotta leave the lion in the cage until it's time to..." Shut up you dick. Unfortunately the only way to shut his ass up is to win. Let's do it then.
He looks to be the better athlete and still has a lot of upside. Plus, it would have been nice to poach another top recruit from Ohio.
Our LB and DT stables are quite full of talent so not critical misses.
I agree with.
Recruiting is important as it's the lifeblood of any program, but it's much more important to be able to develop the recruits you get. For this reason I'm not exactly distraught they chose OSU. Sure it would be nice if they went elsewhere, but ohio is going to get talented and high-rated guys so it's no use fretting over a few guys who committ, because who knows, they might never live up to their billing. This is the big knock on Hoke after all (and I admit that I am one of the leaders in beating that drum), but what does it matter?
They're pretty adept at developing talen at OSU, especially along the D-line and LB. I agree totally with what you're implying, it just doesn't make me feel better given what we have seen from our respective schools over the past few years.
It always hurts to miss on recruits of their caliber, but luckily we finally have depth so it doesn't hurt as bad as say losing Dorsey to academics, or Kris Frost to Auburn. Landing Boykin would be awesome, but obviously not expecting it.
Can anyone tell me/ direct me to the numbers on players we have had leave the program since Hoke took over compared to players Urban has had leave the program since he took over?
Jayme Thompson, Mike Mitchell and Se'Von Pittman I believe are the only ones that have left voluntarily. Jamal Marcus was also voluntary but I believe that was more or less mutual. Mitchell was a 5 star recruit and Marcus was going to get a lot of playing time this year. The other two "mysteriously" tranferred because they found themselves behind talented players on the depth chart.
lets take to the Twitterverse!
and these don't hurt as much or we win this type of battle.
win, and nothing else matters. period.
We have enough horses in the stable to beat Ohio now! We also have enough kids on tap that will sign with us to numb the sting. great gets for Ohio not the end all for us.
I'm getting sick of losing to OSU (1-9 in the last 10 seasons) and MSU (1-6 in the last 7 seasons) on a regular bases. It may not happen this season but by 2015 with both at home we better win against these programs. Unless DB doesn't mind us being a middle of the pack B1G team that will win 7 to 8 games per year but may not have a losing season!
Good luck to the two of them, and we will be just fine with the players we do have and will continue to recruit.
Good players will go to OSU, good players will go to Michigan.
There will be blood on the field.
Whoopy frickin' do.
Moved way up in the rankings per ESPN. Interesting they call them both 5* recruits when Cornell is not consensus 5*. I guess they can report it how they want - using only ESPN rankings. :)
What sucks is that Michigan is still suffering from imbalances relating to recruiting and retention of players from several years back.
I think the numbers are back to being just about right, but the distribution between classes is way off (i.e. too many young offensive linemen and not enough upperclassmen).
It seems like that OL imbalance may be around for awhile...with 2014/2015 classes likely only having Cole, JBB, Runyan, and Newsome. Any injuries or mistakes in those 2 classes could mean the same imbalance occurs a few yrs down the road like it happened with the 2010/2011 OL classes.
Let's be real here...the 2010 class with one lineman screwed all of this up.
You'll never see that sort of ridiculous imbalance again. Hoke may have his issues but he seems to recognize, more than RichRod that O-Line recruiting is a priority.
My message wasnt intended to criticize Hoke...I was attributing it to the echo effects of the 2010/2011 classes. The small OL recruiting numbers in 2014/2015 are a result of that as there are limited OL scholarships to give since so manyy had to be taken in 2012/2013. The danger is this imbalance never ends. Redshirts allow you to spread the classes out more so the lumpiness should disappear over time. However, if you get unlucky with an injury and a transfer it is possible to quickly be back in same situation given each class only has 2 OL recruits due to no fault of Hoke's.
Seriously wtf was the whole RR staff thinking. "hey do you think we need to start 5 linemen every year or could we play 7 man football this year"
Bo would have gone nuts and hit him with Woodys yard marker.
I think things will get sorted out now. I wouldn't be surprised to see Michigan take another lineman by National Signing Day, and next year should be a little bigger class (plus Glasgow and Miller will graduate, which opens up at least two spots).
I believe we will all be very happy with where the O-line is this year. The talent is there. The coming years should be good ones.
... after the debacle that was last year and the loss of two NFL tackles I assume a mediocre offensive line that leads to greater than 1yd/carry average will make you "Very Happy." If you're expecting more, I'd love to have your optimism in life.
I have certainly been accused of worse and do tend to live that way but my belief in the future of the line is this. Kalis and Bosch are absolute beasts that move very well for their size. Same for Braden. 6'6" 315 and runs really well. Magnuson showed to be very versatile last year at guard and tackle. Glasgow has experience and is solid. If Kuglar can win center Glasgow could compete at right tackle Dawson has great feet for a kid his size and Cole as a true frosh showing up? Braden needs to prove himself yet but mags kalis bosch n glas would start on most BT teams this year.
Its about scheme and the challenges faced by interior lineman against stunting defenses. In the heat of battle you can't be 2nd guessing your assignment. You need to be drilled in firing off the ball putting a hat on your man. Nuss is going to get these kids back to playing hard on instinct and practice repetition. The line will shine this year and they are going be having fun vs being confused. Mark my words. That is what I believe.
Interior linemen with experience matter. You could have had Jake Long on the left and God on the right side last year and with a true freshman and a sophomore starting at the guard spots with centre rotation you're going to be crap.
Schools that develop their linemen do so by first actually recruiting them and then retaining them over a number of years to develop. Kind of missed that first part in the RichRod era and just getting there in the second part.
Line will be better this year. Raback that.
With you there. Hoke won his 1st year with experience. Last year the youth on the inside hurt but I do think the scheme Nuss brings over Borges is much more sustainable
Remember, you can't be good at Oline unless you are a Jr or Sr at Michigan.
But Nobody told Long Backus Payne Everitt Hutchinson Molk Dingman Humphries Runyan Jansen...... I think it's just Rumor
I'm not known as an optimist, but I do believe Michigan's offensive line will be decent this year. I think "very happy" is probably stretching it, but I've been targeting 2014 for a couple years as The Year When Things Turn Around.
Would likely give a good season with this team. I agree next year will be much better. Let's hope for a nice jump this year though.
I share this optimism. Sick of the pessimism that '14 can't improve much, if at all. Two NFL tackles gone, blah blah. I think Nuss' offense in first year trumps last year's "offense" in spades (low bar, I know), and it'll be coaching/scheme that makes the difference. Can't wait!
The staff needs to get these kids pumped up to play on the road, and thrive off a hostile environment.