Herbstreit at it again
November 24th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^
that sounds suspiciously like "decided schematic advantage".
Do I think he could be a great coach for UM? Sure, he has all the tools. So did RR coming in. It doesn't always work out.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:55 PM ^
Now this is the second time you've said this. And the second time I've thought it was an unintelligent overstatement. I don't think rival fans by and large feel any more threatened by JH than they do by RR.
But even if you're right, what difference does it make?
November 24th, 2010 at 3:48 PM ^
Herbstreit has no credibility talking about Michigan coaching situations. Remember when he came out and "broke the story" that Les Miles accepted the job at UM in 2006? Great work that was. Regardless, Herbstreit is simply regurgitating other meaningless drival in the MSM and really adding nothing new to the discussion
November 24th, 2010 at 3:34 PM ^
for the rest of the weekend. Between GameDay, the Detroit papers, and the rest of the web, this will continue all weekend long and it is not credible information.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:59 PM ^
A good suggestion. KH has no impact on the primary decision maker (hopefully), and, therefore, giving attention to his statements accomplishes nothing.
November 25th, 2010 at 12:42 AM ^
Who is this Herb Kirkstreit? Never heard of him.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:35 PM ^
And the quotes in the above article are accurate. He was asked a legitimate question about Harbaugh, and answered it in a rational way. He didn't say, "I was told that Rich Rod is gone on Monday...."
He said, I believe correctly, that if a move happens, that it would be shortly after the OSU game, and that Harbaugh is the obvious candidate for the job. He also seemed to suggest that U-M is Harbaugh's dream job. But, since Harbaugh has never suggested it one way or another, who knows?
Is is realistic to suggest that the hiring is already a "done deal", as it must be, if Harbaugh gets hired the "next day", which is the literal quote from KH? No way. That news would have been on the street and on the interwebs faster than a naked photo of Bristol Palin.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:43 PM ^
What's this accurate analysis you're bringing here? I wasn't sure that was allowed this week.
Good clarification.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^
i think a naked photo of Bristol Palin would be held onto for a while compared to CFB hirings. one is sexy, the other's really only interesting to a niche of undateable men who live in their parents' basements.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:53 PM ^
Men who have been married longer than 6 months.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:11 PM ^
i've only been married 17 months and i can tell you that if a naked picture of Bristol Palin showed up in my email i would burn my computer, ship the ashes to a priest and request the Vatican hide it where they buried Jimmy Hoffa's body.
do.not.want.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:45 PM ^
Bristol Palin: Not. A. Fan. Amirite?
November 24th, 2010 at 7:23 PM ^
Herbstreit is just doing his job, which is to offer his opinions about college football.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:36 PM ^
the next person to say "RR Being Firedanigans" is going to be Pistol Whipped.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:42 PM ^
what's that name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls, and the mozzarella sticks?
Here you Geaux, captain.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:58 PM ^
What? You mean RR Being Firednanigans?
November 24th, 2010 at 3:42 PM ^
Dude, weird. There is this restaurant I like with goofy shit on the walls and mozzarella sticks.
November 24th, 2010 at 5:08 PM ^
YOU BOYZ LIKE MEXICOOOOOOOO???
November 24th, 2010 at 3:36 PM ^
Damned if you fire Rodriguez and damned if you don't at this point.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:39 PM ^
Bringing in Harbaugh would be a good move, but giving Rich Rod another year would be good move too. Don't care either way.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^
Harbaugh won't be available next year so if Rich Rod stays Brandon better be sure he's gonna turn it around. Martin hired him but if Brandon gives him another year, he then becomes HIS coach. Is he willing to put his head on the line for a guy that has divided the fanbase and has become a media punching bag?
November 24th, 2010 at 4:09 PM ^
... was already divided before RR was hired. The factions were "Carr should go vs. Carr should stay" and then later it was "Les Miles vs. not Les Miles" or "It has to be a Michigan Man vs. Just bring me a proven coach, even if he's not from the Michigan 'bloodline' ".
The "Just bring me a proven coach, even if he's not from the Michigan 'bloodline' " faction won, but the "It has to be a Michigan Man" side never accepted it. Just the fact that RR got the job alienated a lot of people. That's hardly his fault.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:41 PM ^
Harbaugh
4-8
5-7
8-5
10-1
Rich Rod
3-9
5-7
7-4
?
Yeah! Big upgrade.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:47 PM ^
it is 48 degrees in NYC, NY
it is 48 degrees in SF, CA
therefore, the weather in NY and CA is the same
November 24th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^
I was perfectly content with my foul mood, and you just spoiled it with humor. Nice going.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:59 PM ^
False equivalencies are a perfectly acceptable debate tactic nowadays.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:01 PM ^
Can we please just let the man ride out "HIS" first recruiting class for a full 4 years and see what his guys can do when they arent still in puberty or something? It's utterl disappointing to see the fan base this way, I dont even know what to say to people anymore. Just hold the faith. Good things will come, worry about Saturday.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:08 PM ^
Stanford and Michigan were obviously in the same boat when JH and RR took over each respective program...
At least call it like it is.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:47 PM ^
not being in the same boat as RR. He had Toby and Luck to help him tread water. Is that calling like you want it?
RR needs a fourth year. If the D can can get halfway decent we can go 10-2.
November 24th, 2010 at 5:29 PM ^
C'mon now. Luck is a (red shirt) Sophomore. He wasn't at Stanford when Harbaugh took over a 1-11 team. Let me say that again...1-11. Gerhardt was (I think) a sophomore. Was he better than Junior Brandon Minor that RR inherited from a 9-4 Michigan?
It'd be nice if an automatic reply popped up to each "Harbaugh took time to win 8 games too" post. Once more - Stanford was 1-11 when he took over.
November 24th, 2010 at 5:37 PM ^
I'm not the only one who thought that comment was ridiculous.
November 24th, 2010 at 5:58 PM ^
It would also be nice if an automatic reply popped up about the team RichRod took over, losing 9 offensive starters and 5 to the NFL as well as many contributors on defense. If you are going to laugh at those comparing Michigan to Stanford as the respective head coaches took over, you might want to actually say something like "it is ridiculous to compare the two as their situation is nothing alike." Not "1-11 1-11 1-11 1-11."
November 24th, 2010 at 9:24 PM ^
You really need to try and try to avoid the reality. I don't why you even care. Harbaugh did a great (and speedy) turnaround job. He used what he had and is doing well. RR decided not to re-recruit his players and went a different route. One coach DID take 1-11 to 11-1 (10-2). The other DID take 9-4 to 7-5 (8-4). Excuses won't outlive the record books. It doesn't mean they aren't both good coaches...they just operated differently.
November 25th, 2010 at 12:38 AM ^
It is amazing to me that you can say "it is ridiculous to compare Harbaugh to RR at their respective schools because their situations were so different" and then in the next sentence say "now let me compare the records of both teams before they took over so that I can show how much I dislike RR and love Harbaugh." The reality is you don't like RR so you will use whatever you want to prove how bad he is. I mean, Harbaugh had a really shitty defense at Stanford for 3 years until they got respectable....and they play in the fucking Pac10. But you are right, I guess the situations are similar when you want to show how amazing Jimmy is but completely different when it doens't fit your argument.
November 25th, 2010 at 4:11 PM ^
It is amazing to me that you can say "it is ridiculous to compare Harbaugh to RR at their respective schools because their situations were so different"...
Why did you completely make up that quote and pretend I said it? Did you post that to the wrong person? By putting words in quotation marks and saying "it is amazing to me that you can say...", does that really mean I said whatever follows in quotes? Enough already. It's pathetic.
November 24th, 2010 at 6:34 PM ^
Brandon Minor - 199 carries, 1035 yards, 6 receptions for 28 yards
Toby Gerhart - 553 carries, 3008 yards, 24 catches for 171 yards
Stats are from 2008 and 2009, combined.
November 24th, 2010 at 9:18 PM ^
I love it! You combined years to make a point about 2008. Why is it so hard to just accept that Harbaugh did a great job turning around a bad team? It doesn't mean that RR is the devil...just that Harbaugh did a great turnaround job.
November 25th, 2010 at 7:59 PM ^
I included 2009 to demonstrate that Gerhart was far superior but here is 2008 only:
Minor - 103 carries, 553 yards
Gerhart - 210 carries 1136 yards
Surely Minor was better right?
I never said anything about Harbaugh and his work. You said Minor was better than Gerhart.
You were wrong, again.
November 24th, 2010 at 4:37 PM ^
i'll take the extra win that Jim gives his anyday why wouldn't you? Plus, he is a Michigan man and can speak wth gramatical correctness. Our helmets HAVE wings damit!
November 24th, 2010 at 3:44 PM ^
He needs to worry about all the stuff Pryor is saying about him, I mean, Pryor did strip him of his nuts and said he was not a real Buckeye.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:47 PM ^
The media seems to think they are "helping"Michigan here. They really want to write a "Prodigan Son Returns Home" story.
I am much more disgusted with the people in the Michigan fanbase who want to throw RR under the bus than I am with any national media. The media have only superficial knowlege of what is going on in Ann Arbor and a de facto set of storyline templates they use when they write. "Fans" should know better.
Sam Webb brought up a great point this morning. Harbaugh went 4-8, 5-7, and 7-5 before this year's 10-1 start. To many fans, it is "acceptable" if Harbaugh does it, but UNACCEPTABLE for RR to have almost the exact same record for his first three years at Michigan.
MIght I humbly suggest either the banhammer or a million-point reduction for the next "FRDKRODNOW" thread, whether it is subtly or blatantly stated?
November 24th, 2010 at 4:51 PM ^
One man's "suerficial knowledge" is another man's "litany of excuse making and enabling"
In fact, excuse making and enabling has become a new part of Michigan football tradition.
That is, when guys aren't worried about secret cabals of saboteurs and grassy knolls in Ann Arbor.
November 24th, 2010 at 3:50 PM ^
November 24th, 2010 at 4:02 PM ^
Your career is off to a far better start than troyMI10. +1
November 24th, 2010 at 3:54 PM ^
Let's change the subject: How many pets do you have if all of them are birds except two, all of them are cats except two, and all of them are dogs except two?
November 24th, 2010 at 3:57 PM ^
November 24th, 2010 at 4:02 PM ^
Hey good job, how about another.
Water lilies growing in a pond double in area every 24 hours. On the first day of spring, only one water lily pad is on the surface of the pond. Sixty days later, the pond is entirely covered. On what day is the pond half-covered?
