Herbstreit: "I think it's an absolute joke"
Just on SportsCenter, Herbie sounded pretty ticked off about the whole nonsense.
Some other stuff:
"I think that it's a bit of a witch hunt."
"It's pretty easy to select a group of people to find that can turn their back on Rich Rodriguez after a 3-9 year."
"It's easy to pick on a guy...after the worst year in school history."
"I find this really insulting to everything that Rich Rodriguez and everything that he and his training staff have stood for."
Limits are exceeded "across the board."
"It's very well-known [in top-25 programs] that if you are a player and you want to start, then you have to put in more time than the NCAA suggests."
"Whatever it is, you need to get your tail over to the facility and put in the work if you want to start."
He also suggested that the culture/work-ethic before RR wasn't as high, and they're suffering some culture shock.
"Almost all of them have bought in, but you're going to talk to guys that have graduated, who were in the Lloyd Care regime, or players that have transferred, obviously they're going to take some shots after a 3-9 year."
Hopefully it will get played again and not buried because it's not nearly as juicy as OMG MOST WINNING PROGRAM EVER CHEATERS!!!
Tell it like it is.
It's starting to turn. Brewster, now Herbstreit.
Good. If factions in Ann Arbor and Detroit are going to stab Rodriguez in the back when they can, I have no problem with support from Minneapolis and Columbus. I've had enough with Rodriguez's name being smeared. No man deserves what he's had to endure the past 20 months.
60 points on Saturday.
hit the nail right on the head! enough said!
linger longer
And the next shot in the turn comes from... East Lansing?
Dashiell Bennett slowly coming around on Deadspin:
He also comments on the Freep completely ignoring the idea that some of the hours put in the the players don't count towards the 4 hour / 20 hour limits, but I was beginning to feel like I was copying and pasting the whole article.
Our helmets got wings
Thank you Mr. Herbstreit, I admire your analysis of this situation.
Whoa! What happened? I just blacked out.
I started realizing that Herbie wasn't as bad as I initially thought after he was one of the few people in the media that wanted to see a Michigan/OSU rematch in the MNC.
He really does do a good job in supporting the Big10.
I have always liked Herbstreit and I feel like he is one of the few people affiliated with ESPN that will throw all judgements out the window and just tell it like it is. He is my favorite guy at ESPN, and I'm glad he still doesn't buy in to everything. At least somebody at ESPN knows what they are talking about. Thanks you Herbsteit.
2010- Redemption
I've never hated Herbstreit, just never really loved him. I don't know if it's the OSU thing or the Les Miles thing. I appreciate that he reps the Big Ten and his commentary is usually pretty good.
Maybe it's just that, while I like Lee Corso, ESPN's other college football analysts drive me nuts (May, Forde, Holtz) and I just lump him in. Either way, from now on I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and he gets:
I am going to get my tips frosted as an homage.
Is it me or does it seem like our 'enemies' are the only ones defending us? Meanwhile our 'friends' are the source of this insanity.
Seriously, though, Tim Brewster, Herby, and Carson Butler are three of the people I'd have expected to 'pile it on' so to speak. It's even more awkward considering they defend us while two prominent alumni cause all of this.
Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer... I guess.
Chris Spielman was defending us yesterday as well....
I am really surprised Mike Valenti didn't support us yesterday on the ticket.
the fact that he thinks there is merit to this story tells me I am right in thinking there is nothing to it. He is a clown.
I don't need any new ideas, I'm confused enough already
There is a reason why I never listen to his show....
which is, uh, yesterday, since his show runs Monday-Friday. Still, I'm surprised how brazenly he has defended Michigan against a pretty severe onslaught of 'HURR DICKROD' callers. To be sure, he expressed disgust at having to defend you guys, but he's been kicking ass and taking names.
www.weoncehadtempe.com
just my epinion that butler would not be in the NFL if not for Barwis; and he realizes this.
Good Luck in the NFL Stevie!!!
EDIT: I'm retarded, since I apparently didn't see your line just above. Fail.
"That's tremendous, Jim."
It's ritard
It's ritard
Musically, if you post the same thing twice, it would be a "repeat." If you post it three times, it qualifies as a "vamp."
Yeah who would've thought?
EDIT: There was a repeat post so I changed le post
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
I used to hate Herbie. Absolutely hate him for no real reason. Seems like he may be a bit more reasonable than I thought. It should also help the perception in the media that he's saying these things because 1) he's one of the most recognizable college football analysts/announcers out there right now and 2) he's partial to OSU, so he's not going to go out on a limb unless he actually believes it.
Herbie's never really bothered me. Maybe it's because he's seems so much more reasonable/sane than Corso and is not a complete homer but tries to give an honest analysis.
Of course, I was in school at the same time as Herbstreit and he never beat Michigan.
I partially disagree. I don't think he has an OSU bias. At times it may seem that way, but when he's on ESPN, i don't see much bias at all. He even had our back after the OSU/Florida/Michigan Title game dispute.
When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing.
-- Bo Schembechler
By "partial to OSU" I didn't mean that he was an unapologetic homer. I just meant that people know he played at OSU, so this carries a little bit more weight. Like I said, I don't know why I hated him, but from now on I shall take him for what he is: a level-headed graduate of the worst school on earth, and a good newscaster.
like I should hate him since I have seen him on TV, but I never did. I have always felt like he was level headed and reasonable about everything. He's a class act at ESPN.
2010- Redemption
Word is commentary out of Columbus will be coming soon - complete with a video from Kurt Coleman on what a typical week of practice and football related activities is for him, a senior captain.
+10 for Herbstreit.
To be honest, Herbie is rather fair and balanced when talking on a national stage. When he is on his radio show in that city to the south he is a OSU SOB.
"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures"
He will say it again on Saturday at 10:02AM right after "Yeah we're comin' to yo' citay" because that will undoubtedly be the first thing they talk about.
I have always like Herby, personally. Maybe I'm the only M fan who does (and I'm probably about to get like 50 negs) but for a former Buckeye who got beaten down by Michigan, I beleve he is relatively fair.
Not that I loved Lloyd less, but that I loved Michigan more.
http://www.beersmith.com/
Didn't you hear? "Yeah we're comin' to yo' citay" is being replaced by a Kenny Chesney song. Just thought you should know so you can be prepared with earplugs.
I never got tired of the B&R song! I guess because of what it always meant - the start of a football saturday! What a load of crock!
Not that I loved Lloyd less, but that I loved Michigan more.
http://www.beersmith.com/
THIS, is the music to go along with a football Saturday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7cd_N2LPU
Well i hope you leave enough room for my fist, so i can ram it into your stomach, and break your goddamn spine!!-Lloyd Carr
I'd be ok with that if they start playing college football on a wooden court with a round orange ball. And call it basketball.
If you like your weekly dose of SEC bias, Tebow-worshipping, and the always-wrong Gary Danielson (the spread is dead?).
If only Coach Mo hadn't gotten so drunk.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2009/08/27/new-college-gameday-s...
I hate that song so much...
Kittens help make the pain go away.
for "me too" Brutus, but I'm with you. I've always thought K.H. did a pretty decent job. He knows the game, and while his analysis may not be always dead on (whose is?), I think it's pretty objective for the most part.
About 25 posts as of my reading, and no obligatory "Boom Herb-streeted!" ... hmmn ... I have yet to read the Brewster thread. I hope my faith will be restored over there.
Also, lest someone call me a traitor, I'll say this: Herbie's hair bugs me. There's the venom.
I've thought for several years now that Herbie actually has a surprising ability to be honest and impartial.
I live in Columbus now, surrounded by OSU fans, and I think I may appreciate him more than most of the OSU fans who are fans of his simply because of his past.
I truly feel he has tried to be fair and unbiased in the past and this is a perfect example.
Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey
If there is ever a Buckeye who will get my praise, it will be him for realizing that standing up for what you believe in is bigger than Ohio State vs Michigan. Classy move.
Michigan Wolverines: 874 wins, .740 winning percentage, 42 Big Ten Titles, 11 National Titles, 3 Heisman winners, and 150 consensus All-Americans
This is going to be difficult, but ...*gulp*... here goes.
Kirk Herbstreit is one of the best at what he does, minus his Les Miles Gaffe. I enjoy his analysis, and I think he does a great job.
There. I said it.
doesn't really count, because he's not a reporter, he's an analyst. So technically that does not ding his job performance. His reporting the news was kind of like a columnist doing an expose on a team that he is supposed to be opinionated about, not that that would ever happen around here.
Not that I loved Lloyd less, but that I loved Michigan more.
http://www.beersmith.com/
I've always liked that Herbstreit fella.
Anyone else see a trend developing? Ex-players (in the media or otherwise) - particularly those with significant playing time - are pretty quick to dismiss this. Fascinating.
First Herbie, the Vest is next.
When Herbie proselytized the team I nearly choked on my cigarette because I was just so faklempt.
The Dispatch has been pretty quiet about this whole deal. One, short wire article on the second page Sunday, no mention yesterday. Normally this would be front page news (front page, front page). When the Dispatch passes on the story and Kirk Herbstreit defends a Michigan program, you know the story is garbage. This has turned much quicker than I'd thought it would - continue Freep boycott, enjoy more unexpected defenders to come, and look forward to a Michigan victory this Saturday. Business as usual???
"Did you quit when you got knocked down? Did you violate the rules in order to win?" - LC
Other than that I'm pretty ambivalent, aside from the Miles debacle.
Wake me up when Dantonio defends us.
Well, I was wrong about Herbstreit and glad to be so. This proves that a mainstream media figure can indeed be sensitive to accusations of having an agenda. Are you paying attention, Mssrs. Rosenberg and Snyder?
When he is on ESPN I have found him to be very fair towards Michigan. I do not hate Herbie, but I can not say that I am a fan, but I do respect him and his work on ESPN
Sympathizing and/or (dare I say) respecting Kirk Herbstreit goes against my programming.... Press F1 to continue....
"I will fight, 'til I'm dead, with a Winged Helmet on my Head"