well that's just, like, your opinion, man
someone doesn't choose Michigan, it doesn't always mean something fishy is going on. His best friend (former M committ) Anthony Standifer goes there and I'm sure he's having a great time when he visits.
It's hard not to have a great time when you get back to your hotel room and there are two co-eds in your bed.
(Read Three and Out if you think I'm making this up)
when recruits come to Michigan they are showed a good time by their hosts? You have your head in the ground if you think this doesn't happen at Michigan.
I'm sure UM has their own hosts/hostesses, it's just that there's never been any evidence or even stories about us whoring girls out for recruits
As for the SEC schools doing it, I don't think it's as prevalent as OP suggested, but there's definitely been more stories from down South than up here
One of my best friends in HS said on his recruiting visit to Wisconsin all the recruits on the trip were lined up outside a room. The room was full of women giving them all BJs. He had a lot of fun on the trip. He committed to ND though. 100% true story.
Those weren't women.
How did he do with the herpes?
suggesting anything so blatant as whoring out girls, but I'm sure the recruits may be at parties where the girls in attendance would be more than happy to recieve the attention of a high profile future athlete.
Everyone knows that a book must contain at least 3 authors to qualify as valid evidence.
I don't know what they do over there, but they sure are great at the "one-visit close." I'm guessing that something must be happening that recruits see as really special during their visits. I wonder what that could be?
Because he doesn't want to commit, then de-commit to take visits. Relax, he is still in play.
We need the depth at WR.
We sure do
He has a friend there. So there's that.
On the other hand, the school still plays "Dixie" as their fight song...
I kind of doubt we land any of the Green, McQuay, Treadwell trio.
Who doesnt enjoy a visit to Ole Miss and all those frat girls with 4 teeth?
Try sororty girls that are very easy on the eyes.
That might not leave a spot for Laquon.
With an offer?
Treadwell is not an option? or will they take another wr
I am thinking this may be the writing on the wall regarding Conley. We will see though.
EDIT: OP edits faster than I can post. Welcome Da'Mario!
with another "sleeper".
If Gareon had set up a visit to OSU that opens up another spot. Doubt it takes the Quan's place.
Can I still haz treadwell?
Yes. That's how it works. You are correct
I would guess that this has little impact on the three remaining recruits we are looking at (Green, Treadwell and McQuay). I would say it is 100% Conley being out of the picture. Any scouting reports on this guy?
Was Conley being recruited as a WR or DB?
He was recruited as a DB but has had a very good season at WR.
He was recruited as a corner originally, but more recently, the coaches had informed him that he could play wide receiver, too.
Conley still has to speak with Hoke about his OSU visit...he isn't 'gone' yet.
It's one of two thing:
1) Conley is definitely gone and the staff knows it. The public didn't until now.
2) Treadwell is no longer on the table.
Or, given the state of our WR corps, more WR's are a priority.
Our WR isn't a shallow group. Forgetting about Darboh? Chesson?
Remember when Darboh was the talk of the town after the spring?
Darboh was an Iowa high school student in the spring.
Also, if you look at this:
Jackson - J. Robinson - R. Miller - Dileo - Gallon - Darboh - Chesson
and see more than 1 solid starting WR in 2013, go to the eye doctor. This team needs WRs.
God, that's downright terrifying.
I'm sure that nobody is ready to count Chesson and Darboh as sure things at this point.
Our return corps will be:
Dileo - SR
Gallon - SR
Jackson - SR
Darboh - Soph
Chesson - RS Freshman
Robinson - RS JR
that's pretty dark.
It's plenty of depth, yes. but the two players closest to "established" on that list are seniors (Dileo, Gallon). I think it makes sense to get a bunch of guys at this point, given that we don't know for sure if we have ANYTHING at this point
Are we THAT invested in RB's? The approach, to me, appears to be similar to our WR approach - a slew of 3-stars, with a very highly-rated hope in play.
You forgot Treadwell.
Or the staff realizes a 3rd guaranteed WR is more important than a 5th OL, which looking at the 2011-13 recruiting classes in total, is probably a rational decision. Borges needs more lottery tickets at the skill positions.
Considering the timing, my guess is that Conley's gone and this is his replacement.
We still have 3 other corners committed.
If anyone has watched his highlights on hudl he looks like a guy who can score from anywhere on the field. As we all saw against nebraska, we only really have one of those right now and he plays QB.
I doubt this means anything about LT and more that he is a good player and a spot opened up.
EDIT: senior highlights http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1672328/highlights/15278383
Anyone else notice the 90 pound DT at the 1:33 mark of this video? Dude gets destroyed. WTF?
haha that was hilarious.
He looked like a middle schooler.
Per Rivals, he is 6'2" 185 lbs. and runs a 4.4 FORTY.
I give that 40 time FIVE FAKES out of FIVE.
There's no way an under-the-radar type runs faster than 4.6 in High School even if they are considered a speedster.
Haha that's funny: I was thinking the same thing. Or that it was run without pads . . . hand timed?
Either way, I like the 6'2" aspect of it, assuming that's 100% true.
with their pads on?
You never know. Back in the day, Chris Johnson was only rated a two star, and he wound up being a 4.2 guy.
4.2 af the NFL combine is very different from 4.2 as a senior in high school.
You're right. Rivals had him timed at a 4.3 in 2003.
Let me preface this by saying I hope you're right, and Da'Mario Jones is a legit 4.4 as you're suggesting. That said, my entire point was that Rivals 40 reports do not seem that accurate compared to lets say an electronically run 40 at something like The Open. The number I'm skeptical about (Da'Mario Jone's 4.4) is the number reported by Rivals, just as Chris Johnson's highschool time of 4.3 compared to his NFL Combine time of 4.2 suggests he probably had a worse high school 40 time than the reported 4.3. You would think Chris Johnson got more than .1 seconds faster in the 40 over 4 years in college, as most players do. Thus, if his 4.2 NFL time is accurate, isnt it possible his real 40 in high school was more like 4.5 and Rivals was a bit inaccurate in its report of a 4.3?
Either way, I truly hope Da'Mario is a legitimate 4.4 and just burns everybody the second he gets on campus, but I can't help but be a little skeptical.
We've recruited 2 WR's in the last 2 years.
1 is a 4-star. I think our WR recruiting shows "we haven't done it".
Lets also see how we finish this class, and where Duke/York end up?
In general I agree with you - we want to have elite WR prospects. Elite anything prospects.
Because guys like Eric Page and other MAC, Sun Belt guys have never been able to run 4.4's. I guess someone should go tell Benard Reedy he needs to slow down because he's not allowed to run faster then 4.6
According to Sam Webb our coaches were very impressed with his speed when he camped at Michigan and considered him a potential deep threat type of receiver.
He is a raw talent with great atheleticism and could play defense as well. Right now it looks like he is being recruited as a (much needed) receiver... but you can never have too many corners.
That's going to get a high number of fakes from Ace I think...
A Tom VH article on ESPN Insider a few weeks ago noted he recently transferred from a school in Jersey and that may be why he's been overlooked.
Those numbers are pretty ridonculous if not FAKE.
4 out of 5 fakes after watching tape. Still looks like a nice prospect though.
This offer and commit could also be the result of the staff saying good-bye to Dawson.
with all the talk about possible decommitments for the last while, Da'Mario Jones sounds like someone who wants to play at Michigan, welcome aboard young man.
Did you reason that he sounds like someone who wants to play at Michigan because he just commited to play for Michigan or for some other reason?
Well actually I got that from all the visits he was taking to Michigan while not having an offer... I even made a comment on the board that I am expecting him to be a part of this class... so needless to say, I was not shocked when I saw this thread.
I think you sound like a guy who likes to post comments on a Michigan blog.
I am not sure if you will believe me, but I also watch Michigan games and cheer for Michigan. I hope this revelation is not overly shocking...
He's responding to the post you responded to, not your post. Look at the indentation to see which post is being replied to.
I think you sound like a guy who pays attention to indentions.
You sound like a guy who makes remarks about whether or not people pay attention to response indentations
Just because I often get lost inside my house, it doesn't mean that I am a confused human being.
Uh, no. We don't need depth. We have plenty of dudes. We need superstar playmakers. There's a big, big difference.
Think the last JG Rocket to get a scholarship was Toney Boles.
So let me get this straight. Goodbye top 5 class because we lose(potentially) a 3 star in Conley and replace him with a 3 star in Jones?
Welcome to Michigan. Excited to see what you can do.
His routes in high school seem to consist of, "just run down the field, you're bigger than everyone else".
The trick is figuring out what to do when that no longer works.
I'll take that. Found this hudl link that worked:
Looks more like a guy that could have waited until closer to signing day to me, but welcome aboard nonetheless
Look what I found, another commit!
Who said what? What happened?
/not good at biology
Wow, just wow.
i dont mind this. not one bit
Another great under the national recruiting radar pick up. The coaching staff def knows how to evaluate talent. Recruits can decommit but the coaching staff always have a back up plan. Trust in Hoke!
Da'Mario is a seriously good athelete. Welcome aboard. We definetly need playmakers.
After watching his senior film he reminds me of Devin Thomas from MSU a couple years back. Give Da'Mario some time to develop and he will be a player.
I'm suffering whiplash from not being properly buckled.
Congrats and welcome to the greatest university on earth.
Welcome. Now get ready to earn the #1 jersey, it's waiting for you
In three years, Michigan's offense is going to look a ton like what Penn State's offense looks like this year, but with Shane Morris replacing Matt McGloin. In other words, tons of four yard carries and 7 yard completions to "posession" receivers.
Combine that with an elite defense (likely) and you have Bama/LSU the last five years. Doesn't exactly piss me off.
Can't say it would piss me off either. But dang, we are shaping up to be a seriously boring football team to watch. I'm having visions of 1998, which is when we beat Iowa, NW, and Minny by respective scores of 12-9, 12-6, and 15-10.
Or Michigan 1997.
First, welcome aboard Da'Mario Jones.
Second, nice to change the narrative a little bit with the decommit/potential for one talk.
Third, awesome name.
Point taken. Kinda reminds me of MSU's wide outs the last couple years.
Honestly, I wonder if this has anything to do with the weird tendency for wide receivers to have a diva side to their personalities and a possible lack of mutual interest between more diva-like prospects and Michigan football (where the style of our current coaches and program is more down-to-earth than flashy).
Regardless... welcome, Da'Mario.
Braylon only had 3* level offers. Arrington only had a few BCS level offers. Justin Blackmon was only a 3 star. Stars aren't everything with Receivers
Looks like a good jump-ball receiver. Junior Hemmingway wasn't a speedster but he could win any jump-ball catch. I'll take another one of those. Thank you very much.
Fine, I'll call him super Mario
There'll only be one "Super Mario" to play for the Wolverines and he wore #86. No offense to Da'Mario but he will need a different nickname. I think he'll understand.
Super Da'Mario is different. We're good.
I'm surprised a WR decides to commit after saturdays QB performances. You better be a really good blocker. (Impending Negg)
I won't give you the satisfaction, +1
because signing day is four months away and anything can happen.
Obviously we are still in it for a few top rated WRs but I really don't think we'll see a committment of several top rated WRs in one class until people see how our quarterbacks develop in the pro-style system and how borges implements it. What will really help the QBs progress is a solid & effective stable of RBs, so let's hope that happens.
Happy to land Da'Mario, but it's nonetheless concerning that at this point in the recruiting process more highly rated talent is going than coming. Then again, Jake Ryan wasn't highly touted and I'd take 11 of him on defense any day. Either way welcome Da'Mario!
Recruiting stars don't mean much these days, given all the studs that come out of nowhere (Jake Ryan). I trust the coaching staff on this kid. They must see something in him that they really like. If they can hit a diamond in the rough like Stribling, I have faith that this kid will be just fine.
Its kind of disheartening to see 75% of the comments in this thread be anything other than "Welcome aboard, Da'Mario!" or the like. C'mon people - lets show this young man the same love we show in all the other "Hello:" posts. I know you all think it, so lets say it in case he's reading this.
Its hard to read a lot of these comments bashing the kid and his talents. Congrats too the kid. I'm sure all u fans that don't want him because he's not a 5* wr, you must not be a 5* fan, we have some of the most whinniest and unappreciative fans. I'm sure every college does. But sheesh. This is Michigan Fergodsake!
Welcome aboard Mr. Jones
99+ responses and not one use of "Wasteland"? Come on...I thought mgoblog was better than that.
Nice to see someone from the tri-cities (Garbage City-Stinkster-Wasteland) making it big.
Shacktown for the win. Shacktown, A beautiful sub-division, nestled in Westland, that should be on a Pure Michigan postcard.
Only thing that scares me is that Treadwell tweeted "Another....Umm" after he committed hope the nombers dont change Quans mind
it had nothing to do with Michigan, or even football.
He's look at like 6 different schools, and does things other than "get recruited". Just because that's the extent of your interest in him doesn't mean it's all he tweets about.
Maybe he had another girl ask him to Prom?
i wish there was a way to block all content on this site about kids that haven't yet signed an LOI with michigan.
treadwell isn't coming here, just like pharoah and conley aren't coming here. i wasted several hours of my life reading about them and i'd like for that not to happen again.
Then don't read about them. PROBLEM SOLVED!
Welcome aboard Da'Mario. Great to have you as a M Wolverine.
A 3* offered after his Senior year of HS is complete, is probably more likely to workout for the program than a 4 star verbal from the summer before his Senior season. More overall info, less time for recruit to get restless, in all, just more time for staff to do their due diligence.
If you look at Da'Mario compared to Dukes and York, he looks to be faster and more explosive than both those guys, yet they are probably higher rated. Figuring out the difference between a 3* and a 4* can be incomprehensible at times
Da'mario does lo quicker than York and Dukes, but both of those guys are certainly bigger than Jones.
That's probably a good complement though, so we're good.
Wow after reading some of these comments it looks like the honeymoon is over for this coaching staff. Welcome Aboard De'mario look forward to seeing you on the field. What happened to all the trusting the coaching staff comments from when they offered other under the radar prospects
My first thought is why didn't we just wait on Treadwell? It isn't like this kid was going anywhere he woulda commited on signing day. With that being said, looking at how weak we are at that position I highly doubt it affects Treadewells decision because he would be the best wr we have when and if he steps on campus.
Are Treadwell and Green as important to Hoke/AL as Pryor was to RichRod. With Pryor RichRod would still be around with a few B1G Championships (and prob a sanction). I think no but with all the Offense bashing lately?
Welcome aboard young man.
Local good kid picks local good school! Good for you!
Welcome to Michigan, Da'Mario!
Didn't see the YouTube highlights posted, so here they are:
At least from the clips, it looks like he has good hands and is a good route runner, which would be a big plus for the West Coast offense schemes certainly.
Not sure how good the competition he plays against is, but looks like a good athlete that can be a contributer if coached up properly (after saturday....legit concern about the WR coaching, seems like a lot of our wideouts have regressed)
He blocked a field goal off the edge he is probably very fast
We need to load up!
Why not take another QB? We lose Denard (and Jack Kennedy??). We pick up Shane and have Bellomy and Gardner. Seems pretty thin.
You should just watch the highlight video, its quite apparent the kid does indeed have legit speed, i dont know how this kid is only a 3 star...
I think the knock on him has been "quickness", not so much his top end speed. I would also argue that because of his size (6' 2 (+?) and running style (longer strides) his overall speed is much more deceptive (think Braxton Miller).
Welcome aboard Mr. Jones! Looking forward to seeing you catch some Shane Morris bombs!!!!
I agree at least one QB a year, wouldn't be a bad idea
Johnson played football at Olympia High School in Orlando. Johnson was also a track star at Olympia High. In his senior year, he finished second in the 100 meters at the 2004 Florida 4A state championships behind 08 Olympic bronze medalist Walter Dix. 4.3 second 40yd high school time, legit.
WELCOME DaMario Jones, I am glad he is going to be a Wolverine. It was evident from the pictures of DaMario hanging out with the with the commits at the BBQ that he wanted to go to Michigan.
Here's my Da'Mario Jones commitment post. I think he's a better overall athlete than either Dukes or York.
Congratulations to this young man and I look forward to watching him take the field.
Magnus, a few posters above have brought up the QB situation. I don't know if you've previously posted something, but I would be interested to hear your take on the overall situation at QB and what we may be looking at moving forward.
I think Michigan should have taken a QB in the 2012 class; that really bothered me. I also think Michigan should take another QB in the 2013 class, but if Shane Morris would be chased off by that, then I'd stick with one. He's not the type of kid you want to chase away, and he doesn't seem like a flaky kid who you really have to worry about getting into trouble or transferring.
I think Devin absolutely has to move back to QB full-time next year and start ahead of Bellomy. Bellomy's still a couple years away, in my opinion; he might even be a career backup behind Denard, Gardner, and then Morris.
This staff has recruited some really talented kids, but they've also chosen not to recruit some key components (QBs in 2012/2013, Devin Lucien at WR in 2011, etc.).
I asked the question, wondering specifically if we might see a close-to-signing-day offer for another QB, because it does seem like the depth is needed. I understand it appears unlikely at this point, but if there are spots left and someone is serviceable, do you take him? At this point it seems correct to assume that if some sort of "nightmare" situation arises, the coaches feel confident enough that a walk-on could/would be a serviceable game manager (I will now pray that Shane doesn't flame-out or get seriously injured, etc.)?
With the way the coaches are holding off on offers for 2014, it seems like they are going to be content with taking one again this year (correct me if I'm wrong). In that case, it just seems like the coaches are asking for trouble. Too me, it would make sense to take two in 2014 (if not in 2013); but, the coaches are probably a bit better at this than I (so who knows).
As far as Devin Lucien, that is REALLY something I look back and "sigh" on. I don't remember your break down, but I can't really remember anyone predicting him making SUCH an impact THIS quickly.
If there are spots left and someone is serviceable, then yes, *I* would take him. But I'm not the head coach at U of M, so what do I know? I really think a program should take at least one QB every year, and Michigan had taken at least one for something like 14 straight recruiting classes until 2012.
I didn't have Lucien pegged as a superstar, but I was pretty high on him and I was frustrated when Hoke didn't try to reel him in as a WR. He's not doing superstar-ish things at UCLA (10 catches, 188 yards before getting sidelined with a broken clavicle), but he's a redshirt freshman with some upside.
6'2 receiver with speed? I'll take it. We need depth at receiver anyways, might as well give the local kid a shot at living his dream of playing at Michigan.
Looks like they have room because Ricardo Miller is leaving to play football else where.