Sam Webb interviewing Speight on WTKA right now.
no, YOU'RE off topic
Sam Webb interviewing Speight on WTKA right now.
Fact: Borges showed up and watched him throw. Not a Known Fact but Highly Likely: Speight threw a 20 yard out for Coach Borges. Fact: Coach Borges offered. I am going to deduce his arm strength is not an issue. Throwing under pressure and mechanical issues with delivery can affect the velocity of throws, and coaching can fix those problems. I am going with the judgment of the coaches on this one.
Fact: Al Borges did NOT show up to see him throw. Jeff Hecklinski did.
You're a dick sometimes.
So...someone states a fact, I correct the false statement, and I'm a dick? I guess we should just let false statements bleed into being the truth then...
Never mind. Al Borges was definitely, 100%, for sure at Richmond Collegiate last Friday morning. And Jeff Hecklinski was not.
Carry on, people.
How about: "Actually, it was Hecklinski who saw him throw."?
NOT (how it was read): YOU DUMBASS! IT WAS HECKLINSKI! HAHAHA! SUCH AN IDIOT MAN! I AM THE KING OF RECRUITING.
I used the same format that the OP did (Fact: Blah blah blah.). If you're going to bash me for stating facts as facts, then perhaps you should also bash him for stating falsities as facts.
I am hoping that Borges has seen Speight's tape... or at least knows who he is.... :)
FACT: You're always a dick.
You are really not a fan of Magnus.
When more than one other person points out a character flaw, there's a legitimate reason. You'd do well to work on that part of your personality. Maybe it's just your online schtick, or whatever, but you do come off as a jackass much of the time. Very condescending.
You're pretty knowledgable, I'll give you that, but it doesn't mean you can act as you do and people will just accept it.
If saying "Fact: Borges did NOT watch Speight in person" makes me condescending and a jackass when it's the exact same format that the previous person used, then so be it. I'm okay with it. I've been commenting on this blog for about 6 years, probably. I doubt things will change anytime soon. Some people don't like me, and that's just the way it goes.
Keep doing what you are doing. Many of us appreciate you on here and don't have an issue with your "real world" tactics.
Don (just below) is correct that (most) everyone is a dick sometime. Some people here just get their shorts in a wad too much.
but simply correcting a factual inaccuracy is not being a dick.
Thx Magnus I stand corrected. But my point stands - Coach saw him throw a 20 yard out and offered. If he can't make that throw in person with velocity he no gets a UM offer.
Welcome aboard Wilton! Listening to his interview on WTKA right now and he's well spoken and doing a great job, of he's doing this in high school he'll be a great face of the program in the future. Also, I can't lie, I like having a QB commit early to help center the class and recruit other players.
As far as throwing motion goes look at Phillip Rivers or Joe Flacco. Cody Hodges had a great college career and he had a really weird throwing motion.
I may like video of another QB but this kid is classy. He is very well versed and real smart. He wants to be a Michigan Man and that's good enough for me. One of the best interviews I've ever heard from a kid. GoBlue Wilton.
Welcome to the Michigan family, Wilton!
I've got the WTKA interview up as well - he sounds like a great kid. I believe the film was posted last week, and he looks like a solid get, and it is always nice to get QBs early on in the process rather than scramble to find one later potentially. Further, at 6'6", there has to be some advantage to having a QB that can see over the top of virtually everyone and everything on the field.
I'm no friend of Speight's Collegiate Cougars. But I'm so old I can remember when they produced a two-star QB whose only offers were NCSU and Duke, even though he was a two-time Metro POY.
Russell Wilson turned out okay.
I don't see this commitment meaning if we take 2 the 2nd would have to be a lower rated guy. Wilton said the coaches were high on Cornwell and he just wanted the opportunity. Wilton has his chance. Now UM has their guy that loves Michigan. And they don't need two but they could take two. So continue going after top guys knowing you're good whether you get them or not. If another top guy is afraid of competition do we really want that guy? If we do get them it's gravy. Cornwell isn't going to decide soon so being sure to have a guy is great.
Wilton seems like a great kid. Hello, and Go Blue!
A kid that will likely (or would have been likely to) end up with some very good offers committed to Michigan basically upon receiving his offer, and all that half of you can do is complain that he might not have the arm strength that some other kid does. Unreal.
1) While it appears that Cornwell may be the better overall athlete in terms of physical tools, in my observation the mental skills are much more important at the QB position. Speight may offer advantages over Cornwell in terms of leadership, ability to understand the offense/read opposing defenses, etc. This is particularly important in a west coast offense, which has a reputation of being a hideously complicated scheme. So if he is more gifted mentally than Speight, I think that can more than make up for the difference in arm strength.
2) It seems the coaches are pretty confident that DG will get his medical redshirt, and we have Morris coming in. Perhaps the coaches feel like the player we are recruiting for the 2014 class is probably going to be a backup for most or all of his career, and they want to make sure the player is someone who isn't likely to get frustrated and transfer out if he doesn't win the starting job and then sees M bring in another top-flight QB for 2015?
I think your second option is closer to reality. I think they want a guy who really wants to be at Michigan so he'll be content taking a redshirt year and not seeing "quality" playing time (barring injuries) until 2017 or 2018 (depending on Morris's redshirt). By then any issues that he needs worked out should be pretty much a nullified by strength and conditioning, coaching, practice time and "garbage-time" play.
Most elite players care more about seeing field now than they care about what field that is (as long as it's an AQ D-1 school, obvs). Mr. Speight has "play for Michigan" at the top of his priority list, and though flawed he's an elite prospect. There's no reason he shouldn't be our man.
I do agree that we should go after a mobile QB / Athlete as a "project"/"change of pace" guy. If he's more of the big-body power-runner we might be able to install a goal-line / short yardage package similar to what Oklahoma ran with Blake Bell the last couple of years. If he's more of a speedster we might be able to use them as a RB or WR and occasionally shift into a Wildcat with a few pass plays for when guys are laughably wide-open.
Speight is a good pickup, but if the coaches really had a top 3 list, why push for a commitment from someone who they might not have liked as much as Cornwell, just because he could announce a couple months earlier than Cornwell (who wanted to make a spring decision)?
Why? Because mutual interest is just as important... otherwise we could be holding an empty bag at the end. If Cornwell appeared to the coaches as a real risk going to the SEC or wherever, combined with them liking Speight almost as much, then they'd go with Speight, losing little, but securing the spot. And in the end, the odds then favor us. Granted, Cornwell's tape is super impressive... but if he, say, has a little Jeff George in his head, then that becomes self-explanatory.
The dude seems to be all in for Michigan and I'm all for that.
Welcome to Michigan. Practice hard, study hard and stay focused on your goals.
Wow, some of these responses are sickening. This kid has done nothing but speak positively about how badly he wants to be here, rivals has a lot of top schools very interested in him. This reminds me a lot like when Hoke got hired. More than a few people were so mad, he wasn't the "sexy" pick, his record was "mediocre", he wasn't "proven". But guess what, no one wanted to be here more than he did and sometimes that makes you work even harder to reach your dream. In Hoke & staff I trust, welcome home Wilton.
I agree. You have to support the guys who want to be here. I don't mind that the coaches practice a somewhat "first come, first serve" recruiting practice. They must have seen something in him they liked and were obviously ok with him jumping on board otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
Most people here are being reasonable, and the group that really thinks we've dropped the ball on this one is hilarious. Based on what? I like reading Magnus's stuff and everything, but some people here take him way too seriously. He's a guy who's not trained in doing this, doesn't attend camps, doesn't have a staff of people working on this, hasn't seen any of these kids play live, didn't just go for a private workout with Speight, and might or might not have any idea what he's talking about. He's a guy with a website who coaches low-level football.
It's a year before Signing Day. Very few QBs are sitting on a lot of offers, since QB recruiting is just getting started. Did Morris have any other power conference offers aside from MSU when he committed to us? Maybe we shouldn't have accepted his commitment because of that?
The thing is, even *I* haven't said anything bad about him. I simply said that there are other guys who I think are more talented. If you look at my evaluation, there's really not much to attack other than the part about him not having the strongest arm.
If the coaches offered him, he's got to be a good fit. Welcome aboard.
isn't 'not a ton of zip on the ball but accurate and moves around well' what was said about Bellomy?
The kid is 16/17 years old so who knows what may become of this, however, arm strength does indeed matter and can be too easily dismissed at times.
It's easier to teach decision making and reading defenses(what Morris apparently needs) than acquiring needed Division 1 arm strength for a pro style offense. (what Bellomy apparently needs along with some other things perhaps)
Again, it may not be an issue and Speight may have a cannon. If it is an issue though, it's not trivial. We trust you Al! (I think)
19? Wow, he is the Danny Almonte of HS football or perhaps went on a LDS mission.-haha
I remember we had Spencer Brinton who was 26 or 27 if I'm not mistaken
Yeah I think it was covered above (or somewhere on this board) that he broke his collar bone (?) and was granted another year of football. Supposedly...
I think he is a great kid with a good head on his shoulders. He also LOVES michigan! My only knock on him is that he isn't very mobile. Man I just want our quarterback to be able to avoid the rush
1. We don't know Borges "took" him.
2. We don't know he was "taken" "before" anyone. Do we know we're taking 1 QB?
3. We don't know anyone else was ours to "take".
You all suck.
Now that he's committed, I actually have to figure out how to say his name. Is it like Sp-8 or like Sp-ite (sprite without the r)?
Rhymes with "eight" if the way Sam Webb was pronouncing it is correct.
These coaches have an eye for talent, so if they like this kid more than the other recruits...I can't wait to see him compete for Michigan!
Hmmm a guy that absolutely loves Michigan, is a classy guy, but most people would rather someone else was chosen...reminds me of Hoke.
I loved this kid's tape. Yes, I think Cornwell looks like an almost ideal QB, but that's just from watching some highlights and reading Magnus' write-up. Speight has the tools you want: great accuracy and touch, solid arm strength, decent athleticism, good pocket awareness, throws a great deep ball, and throws well on the run. He also has room to grow.
For those of you questioning his arm strength, I'm wondering if you watched the entire reel. At 4:51, 5:41, 5:53, 6:05 he makes some pretty hard throws. It's not a frozen rope, but he has plenty of arm strength.
Honestly, he does remind me of Navarre in a lot of ways. He looks more polished and less clumsy, but the slight hitch in the throwing motion and his height do remind me of Big John.
FWIW, I believe college QBs need accuracy and touch more than arm strength. I'm very excited about this kid.
Welcome to the family, Wilton Speight.
Best post of the thread so far. His touch pass on the run is a thing of beauty. I also like his ability to thread the needle in double coverage situations on that tape. His deep ball is nowhere near as bad as some are making it out to be. Also, look at how fast he had to make decisions, the front four are through his oline off the snap on way too many clips. I'm pumped to watch his senior season.
Everything about this kid looked very polished and poised for a Junior in High School. I remember watching Bellomy's HL tape when we snake oiled him and being fairly impressed. This kid looks leaps and bounds better than that. I know Bellomy was only a 3*, but I guess my point is, while Bellomy will likely never take another snap for us (fingers crossed), this kid looks like he has the potential to do so. He's not fast, but he's not slow and plodding ala Navarre. He can make all of the throws, EVEN the deep ball. And he has pinpoint accuracy. I was sold when he rolled out and threw it on a line 30 yards down the field, hitting the WR in stride, AGAINST his body. He can throw it 50 yards in the air and he's a 17 year old kid. How often do QBs have to throw the ball over 50 yards other in desperation mode? Most WRs run the 40 in about 4.5 seconds... You want the QB to get rid of the ball in under 5. He'll get stronger, I think arm strength is the least of his worries.