but also sad
Edit: Not sad about him joining the team, just sad about probably why he is joining. You feel me?
but also sad
Edit: Not sad about him joining the team, just sad about probably why he is joining. You feel me?
This team needs another 1 or 2 PGs whether Burke leaves or not. Plus, a pass-first PG might be an even better pairing for Hardaway. I only see upside!
It's not bad to see an upside. I think it's awesome to see what could be. At ND in '11 I envisioned the Denard TD before the half, I was ccol during the entire Under the Lights expericence, and I was confiident during the Sugar Bowl. It's contagious, be confident and others will folllow, and that's what the fanbase needs, a littel confidence. Keep doing what you're doing, especially if you're spectating.
That's what I haven't understood. Why wouldn't Beilein have made PG a priority, whether Burke was returning or not?
He HAD 2 solid freshman pgs in January.....
Two solid freshman PGs in January? Who was the other one? Brundidge? That's a reach.
You could argue that he felt that Stauskas could fill the Douglass role as a 2 who occasionally handles the ball, though.
this signing is really a perfect solution in all cases. Depth or a starter to fill in until next years class comes. Plus he will not initially threaten the incoming guys belief in their potential playing time.
No, but the 2012 rcruiting class was wrapped up before the season started, and before the season started I think Beilein probably felt that both Burke and Brundidge would be (a) capable guards who could run the point, and (b) around for their sophomore seasons. Since we had a PG already committed in the 2013 class, I can understand why he felt the PG spot was filled up.
As of about 3-4 months ago, most people felt we were set at PG for a while, and it was only about a month ago that anyone felt that Burke bailing was a possibility.
As of the end of March, 2011 our 2012 -13 guard situation looked like: Darius Morris (Sr.), Trey Burke (So.), Carlton Brundidge (So.), Nick Stauskas (Fr.). Plus only one available schollarship they were holding for McGary.
Also, the 2013 - 14 guard situation looke like: Trey Burke (Jr.), Carlton Brundidge (Jr.), Nick Stauskas (Fr.), Zac Irvin (Fr.), Darrick Walton (Fr.).
A lot can change in 12 months, and you're left scrambling. Such is college basketball.
Walton, 2013. End of story.
Cool beans. Welcome to the Michigan family.
Adding a PG this late is big for next year. I am sure there will be growing pains, but adding a player like this is another piece that could contribute.
Beilein will make use of Albrecht and doesn't need super athletic point guards to have success. He proved that with Merrit and Lee and he'll do it again with this kid. He has a solid shot and good passing skills while lacking in athletic ability. That sounds like a typical Beilein PG. Besides, the other 4 will be the most talented he's had at Michigan.
Spike is being brought in because he is a player. I hope that is the reason. I don't think that we can afford to bring non elite pgs....unless we are content with being good not great. It's not fair to judge the kid because he isn't here yet. im going to assume he can do what trey can do or else we are wasting our time.
You don't really understand basketball, do you?
Merritt and Lee were not lights-out athletically-gifted PG's, but they ran the offense effectively, hit a few key shots, and helped us into the tourney for the 1st time since the Ed Martin-induced Dark Ages. Albrecht can safely be classified as a "non-elite" PG in the recruiting circles, just as Merritt and Lee were. That doesn't mean he won't be effective under JB's tutelage and in JB's offense.
Welcome to the team, Spike. We can definitely utilize your skills ASAP.
Alright welcome Spike. Please be a diamond in the rough. And tell us you were joking about the Appy State thing.
He should provide solid depth and give Trey a breather every now and then. Thats right, I still believe Trey will be back. Gotta have faith!
Quoting Ralph Wiggam:
You're funny....but not haha funny.
In the words of Kevin Garnett: "Anything's possible!"
But he can play the point, which makes me very, very happy.
I'll take a guy who is 6'1 and known for taking care of the ball.
So now what do people think of Nik Stauskus's potential at PG? Wouldn't it be kinda nice to have a guy that could play a backup role reliably to provide depth that wouldn't leave for the NBA? (Who imagined that this would be a problem five years ago?)
Better yet, he could prove himself to be a solid PG and present a unique look because of his length that couldn't possibly hurt our defensive numbers. And when more reinforcements come in at the PG position he'll still find himself out on the floor at a more natural position once the logjam for minutes clears up.
I don't know I'm just thinking way too much about all the possibilities and staying happy about how awesome our program is becoming. It is pretty late now though haha
As long as he knows how to complete both a chest pass and a bounce pass I'm happy. One point guard is better than zero point guards. Big men win championships in college. Unless your team makes its living off the three ball... and your 3 best 3 point shooters didn't just live... shit...
I guess it's a foregone conclusion that Burke is gone then...Kind of bittersweet but welcome to the family Spike.
Our 2nd best ball handler just graduated and the freshman guard who might be able to play the point down the road just transferred.
I don't have any insight into Trey's decision, but it makes sense to take Albrecht whether he stays or not. This tells us nothing on its own.
I forgot about Brundidge. Guess I'm bummed about the prospect of Burke leaving. I really hope he stays but do not have high hopes.
We have to open scholarships as is and our backuppg left the team.
It's not a foregone conclusion. If Burke were sure about entering the draft, he would have done so already. Most early entries have already made the move. Burke, by this point, must have a fairly good idea of where he's likely to be drafted. But he's still on the fence.
The addition of Spike says nothing about Burke's status. Brundidge, by transferring, left the team without a scholarship PG behind Burke. Had Burke committed to stay another year, Beilein still would have signed Spike as a back-up PG.
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Normally I would greet Spike and praise his awesome name, but...it's too soon, man. It's too soon...
Well you better get over it quick. The fate of the program doesn't hinge on Burke's exit or return.
glad to hear spike's on board... with a name like his, he's guaranteed to be a class A grit-star.
But where's Icebox O'shea?
spike don't play with girls
Fumblerooski!! Fumblerooski!! Love that movie!!
Never realized how top-heavy Spike is. He's got some chicken legs.
Haha that's what I was thinking
Wrong sport. Also downright esoteric.
Am I to assume that you haven't seen Little Giants?
On other football boards (cough cough RCMB or Bucknuts) using the term esoteric would be in itself esoteric.
With all the other weak-ass offers the kid had, it's no wonder he'd jump at the chance to play at Michigan. It's like a fairy tale for him.
Are you from coldwater?
He might not have as many stars as Brundidge, but I bet he'll be a better player.
stick around longer.
Ok, so I just took a small step back from the ledge. Welcome Spike, your name is awesome!
Awesome. Welcome Spike!
Regardless of whether Burke does a 180 and comes back or not, we need PGs and this is big news.
based on his name alone , he was worthy of an offer. Welcome Spike!
Great that we have a PG for next year. And Amedeo Della Valle is probably still an option too.
Welcome to the family Spike
This kid has one and done written all over him. I wonder why UNC and UK never got around to extending him an offer? No but really, I think this kid is solid and who knows, he might have a little bit of Dave Sobolewski in him.
If he's as good as Soblewski was his frosh year, I think we go from being a bubble team to being solidly in the tournament. Of course this is if Burke leaves.
Reminds me of D Morris! As long as he can rack up assists for Morgan, Hardway, GRIII, and McGary I'm really happy to have him.
he has nowhere near the same size or athleticism. The player people compare him to is the Northwestern PG who looked completely overmatched in B1G play. Its time to temper the expectations.
Dave Sobolewski. Brian recently said, "Sobolewski had an impressive freshman year and will take on big chunks of the scoring load left by Shurna." So bad, right?
But keep on telling everyone this team is going to be as good as 2003 Montana.
Stop making up false arguments. I never said this team will be 2003 Montana (whatever that means).
Its hilarious how some people just can't handle anything remotely negative. There is a reason this kid's only offers are App St, Davidson and other low majors. Sobolewski is this kids best case scenario and he was manhandled in B1G play regardless of what Brian thinks.
He must be worth having. I don't think Beilein would offer him a scholarship just for the sake of adding bodies at the PG position.
Blake McLimans and Colton Christian beg to differ.
Novak and Douglas don't.
Unless of course you've been living under a rock the past two days.
I have a feeling that by the end of Spike's career at Michigan, he will be, in fact, quite loved.
I really dig this addition to the class. This is what you call "filling a position of need." With quality might I add.
Good pickup and addition to this class.
He may not be an "elite" PG, but tape shows he's willing to go to the rack, has a good finish on his three point shots and has good court vision while bringing the ball up. I think once he's on-campus, a good workout program will really benefit him and make him that much stronger against Big Ten competition.
I'm excited. I know everyone is worried about the losses, but this is a good pickup. Cheers to good years with the team.
One clarification on the OP:
Per Dylan Burkhardt, Spike is planning on signing with Michigan on Friday.
He may be planning to commit tomorrow, but he can't sign. The spring signing period doesn't start until April 11.
Thanks for the input. I just went by what I read on the link.
This is for the '12 class, for which McGary, GRIII, and Stauskas are already signed. Is there an early window, which closes until April?
If Burke comes back, I'd much rather have Amadeo. Even if Burke doesn't come back, I'm still not sure I'd offer this kid until I heard back from Amadeo. Amadeo has way more upside and could slide to SG when Walton gets to campus.
Except for that whole not really a point guard thing. If we're going to develop a guard with size to be a PG I'd rather it was Stauskas.
We only have 8 (out of 13 available) scholarship guys returning next year. That number includes Burke and Akunne. We can take Spike and Amadeo. If Trey leaves OR if Akunne is put back on walk-on status, we can take yet another player for next year.
Amadeo has never played PG. Other than that, he'd be perfect. Filling an immediate gaping hole with a position changing project with upside doesn't sound very wise, does it? I think they want Amadeo too, because we're still light on guards. His possibly being able to play the point would be a bonus, but his skills at SG are the main attraction. Our need for backcourt depth even when Walton arrives is pretty clear.
Obviously this fills a huge hole for 12-13, but can anyone project the long-term prospects for him? Will he likely be a four-year starter, or could he be replaced by a more talented underclassman in a few years?
Assuming he doesn't have NBA talent (or he wouldn't be available this late), it might be good to have more consistency at the PG spot for Beilein--as talented as Morris and Burke were, they still struggled at times as freshmen, and it might be good (better even?) to have a guy who will have lots of experience in the system, assuming he makes it through this and next year.
All of the comments on this thread are conspicuously optimistic... but finally, someone who calls it like it is
You need to find some happiness in your life.
I was laughing at another guy's comment and you (or someone) mark me as flamebait... I was just pointing out that everyone in this thread is saying stuff like "From the film he looks legit!... He'll fit perfect into Beilein's system!... He's not ranked by the Scouting services but I'm sure they just overlooked him, he's a solid 3-star no doubt!"
No disrespect at all to Mr. Albrecht but he is shorter, less athletic, and younger than Douglass was when he ran the floor in 2009-10. I would be more thrilled than anyone if he turns out to be a diamond in the rough but it's just not that likely.
Talk about shooting the messenger...
In this highlight video he seems to be able to shoot, as well as throw the alley-oop, hit reverse layups, gritty layups, and free throws.
This kid is very Novac-ish. I like em.
Beilein already has a commitment from a highly touted point guard in the 2013 class, Derrick Walton Jr.
I don't think anyone has a good track record doing so for Beilein's recruits here so far. Who thought Novak would be a 4-year starter, primarily at PF, Burke could be a one and done, etc.
At this point I don't even care if he's an all American. I just want a solid player that will stick around long enough for development and continuity of the program.
With all the talent coming in this year, a pass-first PG is just fine. He might not play D very well yet, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the talent to do so. Playing defense is about focus, and John Beilein is very good at teaching players how to do just that.
I guess some good came out of all this. Cant find him listed scouts and rivals though??
He's good enough to be rated by the recruiting services, they just havent gotten around to it. After watching his film, I would say its safe to say he would be an average 3 star. Not that there is anything wrong with that, especially this late and with the current "situation".
That seemed like a longshot to me anyway. Why would Morris agree to come in with the same class as Walton when he has plenty of other options available?
I think it is not complete end of Spike's career but it yet to come. Indeed it will be a great feeling for him and he will like it also.New kitchen cabinets
you nailed it.
I don't think Mr. Robert Harris is here to talk about Michigan sports.
We didn't even want until a week ago. Nice
i don't see a lot of people calling him our "savior".... just you.
Kid sounds like a legit backup type player...would love to have him behind Burke.
With that said, taking the maize and blue glasses off...if he's the starter, we're going to get pressed to death. We're going to need some of our wings to bring the ball up the floor from time to time to take the pressure off a true freshman PG.
I had this initial worry, too, but do any teams in the B1G really run a non-stop, full-court press? I'm thinking Arkansas-like "40 minutes of hell". Not really. So that alleviates my concerns a bit. If Albrecht can handle man-to-man ball pressure with relative ease (think Aaron Craft defense) and the occasional trapping defense, I think we'll be OK. I'm still admittedly nervous, though, with yet another PG transition.
Aaron Craft is all you had to say...
Burke had to work like hell vs. that kid. I can't imagine having 90% of the other PGs in the country vs. craft. Or against any team that ramped up even the halfcourt man to man defense the way OSU, Wisconsin and others can at times.
And they'll especially do it in crunch time. Winning close games like we did this year will be.... challenging.
In 2009-10, with Douglass running point, our primary weakness was that we didn't have someone who could bring the ball up the court. You forget how great of ball handlers Morris and Burke are - that's why we haven't been pressed as much in the past two years.
Go For Spike..I like that we have a kid who is thrilled to be PART of Big Blue.. Youtube video shows that he can play with Highly rated player with no problem..Pass first is also nice considering who will be on team next yr.
Also, i have gone to State finals in Michigan for many yrs now and have seen a lot of good player... This yr Michigan missed on a PG from Lansing Sexton.. Monte Morris can drive against class C players ,but has a terrible shot with no rotation. The PG #20 on his team is a better overall player.. In future we need freshman Center from Sexton before the devil(IZZO) grabs him. Kid is Sweet.. Nix was a waste of Mr. Michigan and the best player ive seen in my yrs at finals is Mccallum and Battier.
I think people might be overthinking this. Most freshman who are not studs do not play on elite basketball teams (at least not more than 5 to 10 minutes). I think this is a good pick up for safety purposes in case of injury, much like how UNC added Stillman White. Michigan will still be better off playing some combo of Stauskas and (yikes) Akunne.
It is almost unheard of for unranked recruits to step into a major conference and be ready to run the show at PG. I see the point that Beileins offense does not need a great PG. That is not exactly true, even at WV he had a PG whose main purpose was to initiate the offense and penetrate.
For Michigan to be elite they need a top notch PG. Burke stays and we are set, otherwise I think next year will be a plateau at best.
Good addition. Welcome aboard Spike!
Where does the Spike Albrecht addition leave us with Amedeo Della Valle?
Della Valle is more of a 2. might help if he doesn't have to be the point.
I like the Spike pickup more and more regardless of Treys decision.
Next year looking good
I dont think this means its foregone that Burke is gone. This just ensures we will have a returning PG if he does leave, which may be next year too. I'm sure Belein would rather have a returning PG that knows the offense than banking on a freshman picking up right where Burke left off. Basically, this helps us no matter what Burke decides to do. But its not an indicator that he's already decided. If he's actually decided there's no point in him keeping it a secret from everyone.
Welcome Spike! Great pick up...from the videos he looks to be a smooth pass-first PG.
If Burke somehow ends up staying, it will give us decent backcourt depth. If he leaves, I can see him doing a good job of facilitating our athletic wings/bigs.
I feel like Beilein has us positioned well currently. If Burke stays, I think we stand pat and bank a scholly for next year since six in one class (Bielfeldt, Robinson, McGary, Stauskas, Albrecht, +1) might be a little much. We can then go after a big name recruit for next year.
If Burke leaves, I think we go ahead and pick up Della Valle as well, if he's still available. He will be a nice addition to the back court and has a great offer list. Though honestly, I was not super impressed with his play esp. in terms of handling and shooting form. Perhaps he could develop into what Stu gave us on defense, which is something this team is currently missing.
his poll released after he reported Trey would leave states Trey Burke "expected to return"
Great addition! Looks like a high ceiling kid who distributes the ball well, works for me!
"Spike into Mitch, kick out to Junior, over to Nik, he launches a three.......YES!"
recruiting page on Spike?
Don't ask that question
Enjoy your FOUR years in Ann Arbor. I think Trey will stay ...it's not like he was Chris Jackson coming off his freshman season at LSU .
Hopefully he will be a nice addition to the team. Welcome.
Everyone is acting like this kid came out of some class C school in Michigan. Hello, he was named tournament MVP of the league that McGary played in! His team took MccGary's team down in the tournament semifinals. He scored 16 in the semifinals and 23 in the finals, all playing against top talent. He actually played the entire game in the finals (no breaks) as the primary ballhandler for his team.
Is he going to be an All-American as a freshman like Burke was? No. But this kid is not chopped liver. He's a late bloomer and no one really notcied him until he blew up in his league's tournament over the last month. It's hard to say if he can play at that level all the time or if he was just on-fire for the moment, but kids without talent don't win MVP's in leagues like that. He has more talent than the recruiting services have given him so far.
If he can handle the ball, make some good passes and hit a few buckets a game for us, he will be fine. The big quiestion I have is just how well he can take care of the ball. From his video he seems to have the passing part down. Honestly, having a distributer rather than a scorer at the point might get THJ's game back on track. He never seemed to really get in-sync with Burke.
later on by someone else so it shows up before your post. Thanks for the info, but next time scroll up to be sure no one will duplicate the post later before posting.