landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Hello: Reon Dawson
Reon says "GIMME THE BALL"
Its actually does make losing Webb Hurt anymore. I like the tall corner option. Plus he comes in a year earlier. I dont know why but I am not a fan of Webb, I know he is highly rated but his demenor and idk the way he carries himself doesnt fit the "michigan man" mold to me.
Baseless speculation about a kid's character isn't really highly regarded here.
Him being a Buckeye, it appears I was right about his character.
This may be relevant to your interests: http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/fans/.
Remember how Dawson decommitted and many idiots bashed him and then he recommitted? Brian said something about not bashing 17/18 year old kids who weren't coming to your school. It seems like common sense, but for some reason people always need reminding.
The more popular MGOBLOG gets, the more immature kids we're going to see here. That's why they should bring back the old point system, so we can neg people like that straight to Bolivia.
Or I can just take care of it myself. Off with his points!
(Never, ever bash a recruit on these here pages. Never. Ever. Chuckwoodson2's points will return next month. Let this serve as a warning.)
Yeah... you don't know anything about him.
I don't think you fit the "Michigan Man" mold. Granted, I don't know you personally. In fact, I don't know you at all. But I trust my gut, and my gut is telling me to make a totally asinine assumption regarding your character.
No need to tear down Webb to show support for Dawson. It is a disservice to both young men. Let's be happy we've picked up another commit to finish out a fine 2013 class. It's awfully early to worry about 2014. f the past is any indication, Webb's recruitment could take some unexpected turns before it's over.
Welcome Reon. Go Blue!
ChuckWoodson2, I'd be amazed if you can name one single football player committed to another university, that fits your mold of a "Michigan man".
You are probably the first person who has said that he's not a fan of Webb.
Ok, so...he was supposed to decide Wednesday. What forced the early move? Any chance it could mean more buckle-up-ing?
I can't wait until the 26th
Bill Greene's a pretty good guy as far as premium guys go so this is probably not the case, but you can never completely eliminate the possibility that he jumped the gun just to be 1st.
All your Dawson belong to us.
This redefines "coming in pairs"!!
Welcome Reon, congrats! Go Blue!
I'm even happier
.....and then someone slowed it down.
Hello Kate… I mean Reon. Hello Reon. Welcome!
Yep, good things come in pairs...
Apparently the new technique is to get recruits to commit 2 days prior to when they said they will announce. I can only concur that Green will commit on the 24th.
... so who's the other commit?
Dan Samuelson just committed the other day, so I guess Reon Dawson is the other commit?
you know. Why wait till Wednesday? Welcome aboard young man
All of the Devins, all of the Dawsons - it's not just recruiting, it's acquiring the rights to names as well. I like where this is headed.
Welcome to Michigan, Reon, and Go Blue!
"I told Brady to do it. It's all a part of my master branding plan!"
I would really feel bad for the kid if this information was leaked early. However, if not I wonder if the coaching staff told the remaining kids, outside of Green, that the first to commit was only one who they would take.
to be made with just a call to him, rather than a press conference. I won't speculate on his reasons, but hopefully his commitment, his football career and Michigan all meet his expectations.
Cant teach that size and athletic ability.
D. Dawson + R. Dawson = Dawson's creek?
I hate Justin Verlander right now!
Is there any doubt that he is the luckiest man alive today?
I'm more jealous of whichever guy is on "The Bachelor" each season. A step or two down in hotness, but then multiply it by 15 or 20.
yes but then he has to go back to real life. having 20 hot chicks compete over you for a couple weeks could ruin someone for real life for the rest of their life. that could be what ruins child tv sitcom stars. not that i would not be willing to risk it mind you. just stating science.
I think what ruins child sitcom stars is the cocaine. And the guy who played Barney.
What was this thread about?
sloberrr <---- GIF drool.
We asked 100 people who will go Blue next......survey says: ....DERRICK GREEN!!!
big beautiful eyes
Hell yeah, welcome to Michigan!
It only makes sense that commit 27 would be #27, AMIRITE?
I thought he was commit 26 and wears #24.
Disclaimer: I am not a numerologist nor do I play one on TV. Also didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Derrick Green wears #27. But your numerology appears to be spotless.
Is it safe to say that Michigan now has a confirmed Trotwood-Madison pipeline?
I told you, I even went as far as to ChuckWoodson2 it!
Anyone who saw Trotwood this year...how did he do while being opposite Burrows? Was he attacked a lot....I remember the one ESPN game but I dont remember hearing his name at all.
He has no offer from major programs. Any thoughts on his overall talent?
Scout isn't always accurate, but this isn't a bad offer sheet.
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There's nothing very impressive about that offer list.
I'm not very excited about this one, particularly with our numbers limitations right now. I think we need to accept this as a middlin' prospect taken on because of need.
that's a solid looking list. Including Michigan, he had 10 offers from BCS schools.
Edit: Oops, I mean 11. Sorry Purdue, forgot you were a BCS school.
I don't think you're trolling, I view this as a legitimate question. Regardless if he has other major offers or not, this coaching staff has been very good at finding under the radar talent.
Even if it is just weeks until signing day, you can't be unhappy with a 6'2 corner with 4.4 speed. Yes, I know the 4.4 time probably was just hand timed but this is a guy that can come in and give us depth at best, and at worst he will RS and get the necesarry year to refine his technique. IMO he is a raw athlete. You can't teach athleticism, you CAN teach someone how to be a better corner.
Welcome aboard Reon, happy to have you!
Okay, but look at a guy like Pipkins. For a long time he was a 3-star on most of the sites with a number of players ranked ahead of him. Yet Pipkins was also pretty clearly the #1 guy that the coaches wanted. Then Pipkins goes to a bunch of camps and dominates, so the sites bump him to 4- and 5-star level a couple months before signing day.
That's all well and good, but Pipkins had a decent offer list...and he hasn't really done anything in college yet. I do think he'll be good, but a guy with 7 tackles and 1/2 a tackle for loss counts as a true success story.
I thought Jake Ryan was considered a "sleeper", or was he recruited by the previous staff?
He's like the #64 rated CB...so his offers reflect that.
He'll most definitely redshirt.
Dawson has been under the radar because he came to football late. That could explain the lack of "big time offers" though I think his offer list isn't too shabby.
Magnus; is his name pronounced REE-on? ree-ON? RAY-on? ray-ON?
I haven't heard it pronounced aloud, but my interpretation is "REE-on." However you pronounce "Deion" except with a different initial consonant.
some 6'2'' CB (assuming he plays that position).
Almost kinda not really heals my Conley wound
Assuming he's that tall.
He looks pretty tall on film. If he's not 6'2", he's probably at least 6'0" or 6'1". Either way, he has good height/length for a corner.
Welcome to the fold!
You can never have enough secondary depth. Ever. Love this pickup and welcome to the family!
Excellent athletes are worth their scholarship in gold on special teams. I have had enough of our crappy coverage units, myself.
unfilled positions are what happen when you're waiting for five-stars who never come. If the guy has impressed the coaching staff enough to deserve an offer, then he probably has a good deal of upside.
You couldn't be more of a douche.
Jake Ryan, Jordan Kovacs, Thomas Gordon, Courtney Avery, Perry Dorrestein, Patrick Omameh, Mark Hyuge, etc, all say hi
I don't know what Perry Dorrestein has to do with anything. He never started on a good team, and he didn't turn his college play into an NFL career. Not a terrible player, but he was just a guy.
I don't mean that he was a superstar or anything but him being on the field means that his scholarship wasn't a total waste, he was one of our best 5 lineman at the time or he wouldn't have played, even being a meh player, Drew Dileo also comes to mind, the kids read this kind of stuff...
I respect how you feel, but maybe you should wait a couple days. This is probably a very happy moment for Reon and his family and we should be welcoming our new wolverine.
Mature comment. Is that why Sheridan is up for MVP?
The last two commits have me baffled a little, but who the hell am I? I think we need to trust the coaches.
You're the Blue Uper! (...allegedly)
I'm pretty sure the coaches give exactly zero weight to a recruits star rating and only a bit more to their offer sheet. They liked what they saw, they offerred and accepted said offer. You either trust this coaching staff and thus are happy with the commitment or else you do not trust them or their player evaluation in which case go ahead and question what commitments they accept. I think most people here trust Hoke and Mattison's judgement.
Raymon Taylor hasn't really done anything yet. He's young and there's potential, but the only reason he's even a starter is because Blake Countess got hurt.
They didn't recruit him, but what about Jake Ryan?
Hope it works out the same way it worked with Jake Ryan 3 classes ago. Ohio getting Scott McVey, The highly touted linebacker recruit out of san ignatious and Michigan getting Ryan, his 2 star late bloomer with MAC offers team mate... I'm very happy with the result.. just saying'...
Dude, what in the hell are you talking about? Try to understand this: The coaches don't give a damn about ratings!!! Did you catch that? How many of these recruiting "experts" have won conference championships, or national championships in division I football? Mattison alone has enough credentials to re-teach the entire industry of recruiting "experts" on what to look for in a recruit. Picture them in a filmroom, mesmerized by the genius and wealth of knowledge displayed in his analysis. Then again, maybe you should get in touch with the staff and offer your opinions and advice. I'm sure it would be a humbling experience for these unproven characters.
Was a 3 star. He's pretty good
You have a strange definition of the word elite if you consider Cullen Christian elite and Blake Countess and Jordan Lewis are midling recruits. I think they were/are both ranked higher than Cullen Christian ever was.
Not to mention that Blake Countess has produced more on the field in one year more than Turner or Cullen Christian have combined.
We've all learned by now that recruiting rankings are a set in stone way of judging how a players career is going to be...NOT!
Not everyone can be a five star in the eyes of these services..and many times they aren't bc they don't hit the camp circuit or play in the site sponsored all-star game. With a lot of hokes recruits they've been committed long before the camp circuit and choose not to go bc they're already firm in their commitments to play for us. Elite is all in the eye of the beholder.
You can't count the 2011 class against Hoke and Co. The guy had about three weeks to convince people to play for him. Elite guys generally take more than three weeks to convince. I'll give you the 2012 and 2013 classes as being entirely Hoke's (although the jury's still out on whether any elite players came from those classes).
but a handful of people have been flipping shit the last few days that the '12 and '13 classes not being good. After all, the '12 class has yet to dominate the B1G, and there are a number of targets from the '13 class that Michigan DIDN'T get.
This is why I drink.
This is why I drink.
It isn't just a matter of where to draw the line on "elite." It's what you LOOK FOR to define elite. Sure, it's nice to have a bright shiny 5-star rating on Scout. But there are middling 4-stars with offers from everyone under the sun, and most of them would be considered fantastic gets by pretty much everyone not worried about the final averages. Besides, most of us would like to at least see these kids play some meaningful snaps before judging their eliteness.
Now, with that said.. have you even SEEN the recruiting rankings? EVERYONE considers this class to be among the best in the country, with every service giving Michigan at least 16 (!!!) four- or five-stars. Derrick Green would give Michigan four 5-stars on Scout.
Okay, well I'm not sure what you're looking for with the term "elite" but both Terry Richardson and Jourdan Lewis are top-100 prospects to ESPN, if I recall correctly. And both were all-American game participants. So if that counts, then there you have it. They're not consensus 5-stars or anything, but they're pretty highly rated.
Games are won in the trenches. I agree that it's a little bit frustrating regarding wide receivers and such, but a good offensive line and a good defensive line can make your team pretty good immediately. Wisconsin has done a good job up front without a ton of skill talent, and that's worked out pretty well for them in recent years. Stanford developed a good line and tight ends, got a good QB, and the wide receivers haven't really mattered.
The frustration I'm expressing is over the fact that Hoke and Co. are pulling in elite talent at linebacker, on the O an D lines, at QB, and at RB, but...
You do realize that you just started your lament with "I know Michigan is pulling in elite talent at 64% of defensive positions and about 72% of offensive positions, BUT..."
Unless you were following that with "...but they continue to feast on the bones of the villagers," then whatever gripes you have about recruiting are ridiculous.
A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. We can still take an elite corner or two in 2014.
We should all realize by this point that one or two of these corners will probably be gone by 2015. Spots open up all the time due to injury, unhappiness, grades, etc.
Congratulations and welcome aboard young man. Glad you chose Michigan.
Love the size!!! Welcome and go blue!!!
.......what she said
I'm beginning to like this chuckwoodson2 guy..
Agreed, but for questioning a recruit's character. But he'll recover from that one next month and likely have a long and prosperous MGoCareer.
Whats the scouting report on this kid? Why is he ranked so low? I don't care about stars just want to know why he is so under the radar,especially being 6'2. Is he slow? Did he not hit the camp circuit?
We once "stole" a Trotwood-Madison kid from a B1G school.
He was listed at 6'1 1/2, 186 and was the #86 ranked WR.
His name was Roy Roundtree.
I think Roy was closer to 160 pounds as a freshman - may be barely 185 now.
Hasn't played football for very long. No camps. Raw technique wise. Very good athlete. Has the raw tools to be a pretty good player with some experience.
At worst a special teams demon.
I always thought he would be a pretty good free safety though. Not that him eventually being a FS would be a bad thing. UM has been looking for one of those for what? A decade or two?
I always liked the idea of filling out a class with athletic DB's and LB's for the coverage teams to avoid things happening like Sanders, Ace.
for the last spot and that'll be the end of this class.
Many people believe we'll take 28 players in this class.
That's two more spots - so you're down to Green, Hunt and the new TE from Texas (Smythe) for those two spots.
Others believe the long snapper (Spyneiwski) may have conditions on his offer - if this is true, you're talking 28 or 29 spots depending on your belief in the first assumption.
Personally, I think 28 is the number. I'm just not sold we'll even get the opportunity to take 28. I think we get Green and it'll be tougher to secure one of the last two.
except considering how Smythe's name just popped up again, another new possibility or two wouldn't surprise me. Sam Webb has been hinting the class could get to 29. Maybe he knows something about those possible conditions.
Maybe getting to 29 is based on further attrition.
Unfortunately, I think this is probably the most likely explanation. (Of course, I think that based on nothing).
No word on Hagerup yet AFAIK, but it wouldn't be a stretch to assume he's going to be shown the door.
Seems that enough new names have been coming into play, and there's always signing day drama, such as the Norfleet thing last year, and you never want to turn away a player like that.
I predict that we will have at least one surprise decommit at the last minute, and he'll be replaced by somebody not currently very prominent on our radar.
Welcome aboard Reon
Damn, caught without my seatbelt on!! GO BLUE!!
Welcome to the family, good sir. You're in good hands with Mallory and Mattison.
...work hard and be diligent in both training and your studies. Fair winds to you, fair sir!!
I like how he stays deep enough and moves fast enough to not get beat, and adjusts to the play. Too many times this year I've seen guys line up too close, wait till the WR has a 5 yard head of steam to really move, and then scramble after they get beat deep. Other times we've had some blown zone coverages where guys leave their man and find acres of space in the middle, and I think Reon won't be as susceptible to that. He isn't the most aggresive tackler, actually he's not a very good tackler, or blazing fast, but he's 6'2", he's a willing tackler, and he's pretty instinctive. I think he's gonna buy our front enough time to get to the qb.
A very fluid athlete in the video, not a great tackler tho. I would guess he just got overshadowed by burrows, cause he looks pretty good to my eyes.
Two 6'2 CBs going to Michigan and Ohio.
Great news. Now we just need to wait for the 26th. Mr Green please go blue.
it's always nice to get a tall DB
Welcome to the fam, and may you be another Charles Woodson!
Is green visiting Auburn this weekend???
No. Unless something changed, but i don't think so.
We can't lose him to AU!!!!
The last thing I read was last weekend when Green's mother said they were not planning on visiting Auburn anymore. Said they'd been 5 or 6 times and there was nothing left to see.
Hopefully Hoke & Jackson sealed the deal tonight
You "seen" it? You also haven't "seen" the inside of a book.
Grammar five -o
When you are corrected for your grammar? Its a damn conversation room on a damn blog page forgodsake!! Get a life.
"It's (its per your reply) ... on a damn blog page. "
This is not RCMB; this is Michigan, "Fergodsakes."
Is that all you have?
There's a reason you were taught proper grammar in elementary school: to communicate properly. I don't fuck up simple math problems on the regular just because I can.
Well put, kind sir.
Get used to the idea that shorthand, internet slang (or sloppy grammar, spelling, syntax, etc) is neither necessary nor warmly embraced on this board. Gripe if you will, but it helps clean up some of the cyber-detritus that otherwise litters the Internet.
This is a fairly erudite cohort here on this board, and that (along with rampant UM homerism) is one reason I read here so much. I am not a UM student or graduate, just a lifelong fan since the Wangler/AC/Bo days. I do, however, possess BS and Master's degrees; hence, I value reading posts that don't make my head hurt.
Arrogant Walmart Wolverine
Apologies in advance, but 66 comments and not a single "Neon" Reon post. Had to be done. Welcome aboard.
Blue family. Work hard and enjoy AA.
Nebraska, Illinois...your commits are belong to us.
on taller wide receivers.
As you can imagine, our friends in Champaign-Urbana are none too happy tonight.....
Some quotes taken from their boards;
"A lot of our recruits would probably switch if Michigan offered them a ride..."
"THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE A LOSING TEAM UP AGAINST A PERENNIAL POWER HOUSE."
"And i am damn sick and tired of seeing this crap. we have to work our butt off to get a good player to come here. All Michigan has to do is offer a player and they commit. It is really sad and pretty unfair when you think about it."
"Yea I'd pick Michigan over Illinois any day of the week if I was a hs kid."
"Him picking Michigan had NOTHING to do with the partying. They're michigan, were Illinois. It's not a tough decision for a recruit really...we won't be winning any of those battles anytime soon."
"Like it or not, Michigan has earned the right to be able to offer and get whoever they want, they have won so many games, that's the way it is. It isn't unfair, Michign has worked hard to be where they are, they have played great football for a century and it shows."
"I love Illinois, it was the right school for me when I needed my college education, but if I was a football player and I had the choice between Illinois and Michigan, the choice is simple after just going to a 1 game at each place."
I've always had respect for Illinois and a little rivalry after they took us down a couple times.
Without looking it up, there may be 10 kids who Michigan has landed that had OSU offers in the last two classes. The people who bitch abut back to back top 5 recruiting classes is unreal.
Edit: I actually counted. 18 kids with an OSU offer. Really struggling.
Hmm, Henry Poggi, Mike McCray, Dymonte Thomas, Kile Kalis, Tom Stroebel, James Ross, Terry Richardson, Shane Morris, Chris Wormley, Ben Gedeon, Michael Ferns, David Dawson, DeVeon Smith, Logan Tuley-Tillman, Chris Fox, Devin Gardner, Ondre Pipkins and hopefully Derrick Green if I'm not mistaken all held/hold Ohio offers...
Please don't pretend to be a Michigan fan.
Are you an angry drunk? I had a good friend that was an angry drunk. I could never go drinking with him because he always got us in trouble. Don't be that guy.
You've made a good choice, my friend. Welcome to the Michigan family!
Best wishes to you, and welcome to the Blue. See you at The Big House.
And I don't know what's not to like about this kid. He's big, fast, and looks like he's got pretty good feet and hips. He may not be a finished product yet, but how many freshmen are?
We're blessed to have him. GO BLUE!
Losing damon webb is tough so hopefully parrker westphal will jump aboard to clear our salted wounds
Westphal isn't really a fair trade for Webb, but I guess he'd start to make up for the loss...
Congrads Reon! Big day in your life, enjoy it!
Another nice pickup by Hoke and company...I'm picking Reon to be the "dark horse" of this class.
Magnus you hear anything from Mcdowell..he seems high on State with all his visits
McDowell is supposedly a ways off from making a decision. He seems strongly interested in Notre Dame, Michigan State, and Michigan. He visited Michigan a couple times during the season, and there hasn't been much of an opportunity to visit Ann Arbor here in January, so I wouldn't be too concerned. There's still a long way to go.
thanks for the info..taking hand and mcdowell would be tits..i have high hopes for 14
What do you guys think about Dawson's feelings towards Ohio?
“Until I die, I’m gonna be a Buckeye fan even though I’m going (to Michigan),” Dawson told The Dayton Daily News. “When we play (OSU) I’m gonna still bring my ‘A’ game. But, I love Ohio State.”
haha, my bad.