Dad's the Steelers OL coach? Ya... I think this guy is going to be good.
...says Denzel Valentine of Big Ten Tourney favorite MSU, which is 5-7 in its last 12 games. Cumong, man.
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Hello: Patrick Kugler
February 25th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
#102
Dad's the Steelers OL coach?
February 25th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
#103
I guess it's safe to say he
I guess it's safe to say he has had a day of quality offensive line coaching.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
#104
Poor Sparty.
Poor Sparty. Another 4 star O-Line commit makes Hott Karl a happy boy.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
#105
At this rate they will have
At this rate they will have to take their national recruiting to hawaii
February 25th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
#106
Hmmmmm... what will Hoke &
Hmmmmm... what will Hoke & Co. do with Pocic cmmits too? Welcome Mr. Kugler!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
#107
We are going to have depth
This bodes well for the health of the OL over the length of the season. That pro style substitution thing is going to happen here.
Go Blue!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
#108
Hoke poops gold
February 25th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
#109
(No subject)
February 25th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
#110
Also this:
On running plays...
February 25th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
#111
I'm thinking of a Maize D-Series Cat
for an Avatar. Not as cool as Snoopy on his Doghouse, but I can live with that.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
#112
So how are we going to fill
So how are we going to fill out the class today? haha... I kid. Welcome Patrick!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
#113
4* OL commit and a Garmin win
4* OL commit and a Garmin win at Omloop! This day has started off well.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
#114
Another cycling fan?!
Seriously though, remember when Tommeke was invincible?
February 25th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
#115
Welcome Patrick. This is a
Welcome Patrick. This is a great pickup. As a few others have said above, we have heard via sources (commits, sam webb, etc.) that the coaches PLAN to take 5 OL. What happens with a situation like Pocic, for instance, now? Do you turn down a commitment from a player like him or do you (as a coach) shift your recruiting numbers a bit. I would be very interested to hear answers from of the knowledgeable football members (who know far more than me), such as Magnus, etc.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
#116
I would guess it depends on
I would guess it depends on what happens with attrition. If numbers open up to where the coaches can address all of their needs and still have room for an elite OL like Pocic or Tunsil (please?), then maybe they take him. This is purely speculation. I don't think that the coaches would take Pocic if it meant Ty Isaacs spot would be taken, but if they have room for everyone they need plus 1, then they do it? Magnus?
February 25th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
#117
Would Pocic want to commit
Would Pocic want to commit with 5 already committed? I hope the other 4 don't get freaked out and bolt, committing this early gives plenty of time for someone to swoop in.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
#118
position switch
there could always be a switch from the OL to the DL. all good!
February 25th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
#119
Does anyone know if
Does anyone know if *potential* position switches from this years (2012) OL class would/could have an effect on next years (2013). As far as the discussion of Kugler-center, still bringing in Pocic, etc. goes...
February 25th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
#120
committing this early gives
committing this early gives plenty of time for someone to swoop in
True enough ... but I have to believe Hoke and staff have that angle understood and work their golden poop magic as part of the process of keeping them committed.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
#121
Agreed. The staff will
Agreed. The staff will continue recruiting the kids who commit all they way until signing day. They will also keep up their relationships with guys like Tunsil, Pocic and McGovern in case one guy does decommit, or we have more attrition or an open slot comes available by February (2013).
February 25th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
#122
I think your point about
I think your point about attrition is probably more important than a lot of us consider initially. The coaches have much more information (obviously) on the state of each player (who is coming/going, injury, motivation, etc.). I agree that I think they would first make sure all of their needs were filled (or able to be filled, number-wise), before taking additional spots at any given position.
I think I am still unable to comprehend that perhaps, just maybe, our OL depth issues of the past 3 years may be put to rest (moving forward). We may again be looking at a situation where the OL (even the most talented) are able to take that redshirt year to bulk up and learn the offense before (hopefully) getting in a rotation, then the 2-deep, and then eventually start.
EDIT: Intended as a response to sak2351 above
February 25th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
#123
We are playing with house
We are playing with house money now. Can sit back with five excellent guys in the fold and if later in the process a a top guy wants to commit we will likely make room for him. They used to call this the catbird seat = Sweet!
February 25th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
#124
MY GOD....
And somewhere in a dark place, Coach Dantonio cries himself to sleep....
Welcome to the family, Patrick!
/ 4 star mafia
/ My granny could lead the B1G running behind these guys.
/ and she has a walker....
February 25th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
#125
The "Nasty" Part
Works for me.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
#126
Coach Funk
I'll get started on the statue of him that will inevitably be built.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
#127
Yeah, but.
I still have concerns. For example...
...uh...
I HAVE NO CONCERNS THIS IS AWESOME.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
#128
We are Michigan fans.
Given all weekend to brainstorm some concerns, we'll invent some.
So anyways, I was just thinking about how the '97 season could have been better.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
#129
Hmmm.
If we had started stronger against Iowa, I wouldn't have passed out before the game ended.
February 25th, 2012 at 1:24 PM
#130
Yeah, still get miffed
when I think about how we punted right to Tim Dwight before halftime and he did his thing on us. Why didn't we just kick it out of bounds? ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! That really pisses me off. The rest of the season only sort of makes up for it.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
#131
O-Line
i would venture to say we now have one of the best o-line classes in history over the past two recruiting cycles. And, to me, the crazy thing is all but one are from the midwest and they are all guys who are legit D-1 starters on pretty much any team.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
#132
Rivals #54 player in the
Rivals #54 player in the country....too sweet. Dad the Steelers OL coach...too sweet. Sparty Jr. day having one less attendee...too sweet.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
#133
(No subject)
February 25th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
#134
It's cool tho, because Sparty
It's cool tho, because Sparty recruits intergalactically
February 25th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
#135
That explains why some of
That explains why some of their recruits treat humans as second class citizens.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
#136
Funny, because one might
Funny, because one might think that the success of their emperor while at Michigan (and now in the nfl), would have most recruits from space thinking about Michigan before thinking about State. I guess this whole "Dantonio owns the cosmos" meme has some truth to it??
February 25th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
#137
Funniest one of these I've seen in a while
You're on fire, Michael!
February 25th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
#138
Laughed out loud!
I laughed so hard my son started laughing with me and did not even know why. Joy is contagious.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
#139
Penn State
FWIW, he was #1 on BSD's target list for o-linemen.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2012/2/23/2812856/penn-state-recruiting-roundup#storyjump
February 25th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
#140
Technically yes, actually no.
Technically yes, actually no. They say at the top of the board "(Recruits listed in no particular order...yet)"
February 25th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
#141
can't wait for the schadenfreude
that will pop up on RCMB later...
February 25th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
#142
February 25th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
#143
This is my
This is my favorite:
Somebody please let me know when U-M and OSU have everyone they want so that I can start paying attention to the kids we have a chance of actually seen playing for the Green and White.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
#144
Ah, back to normal.
Ah, back to normal.
February 25th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
#145
This one is my favorite:
"Wow. This is unbelievable I try to refrain from posting in such threads, but this is looking bad. It's like USC recruiting against Little Sisters of the Poor. Hoke is absolutely having his way with us right now. Even when Lloyd was here and we had JLS, we at least got these kids to give us a look. What Hoke is doing to Dantonio on the recruiting trail is absolute murder."
Hoke uber alles.
February 25th, 2012 at 1:27 PM
#146
AHAHAHAHA
I almost like the Schadenfreude more than getting the recruits themselves, almost.
The disgust on the RCMB is rich, decadent you could say. And seeing Jon L. recruiting comparisons get worked into the mix...well this is a symphony green and white pain.
February 25th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
#147
that thread is awesome
love it when theyre past denial and can only admit to getting owned
February 25th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
#148
Your avatar is completely
Your avatar is completely relevant in this thread, not only because of Sparty's tears of unfathomable sadness, but because that episode was just on 10 minutes ago.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
#149
You're a tad slow on the draw
You're a tad slow on the draw there:
http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/93/Per-his-Twitter-account-Patr...
February 25th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
#150
Ah, delicious irony.
Ah, delicious irony.
February 25th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
#151
Center? Yes, please
I thought last year's OL class was terrific. These two classes together are just TREMENDOUS. And, I don't think 6-4 is too tall for center. Clay Shiver was 6-4 and was certainly a great player.
