Dad's the Steelers OL coach? Ya... I think this guy is going to be good.
Hello: Patrick Kugler
I guess it's safe to say he has had a day of quality offensive line coaching.
Poor Sparty. Another 4 star O-Line commit makes Hott Karl a happy boy.
At this rate they will have to take their national recruiting to hawaii
Hmmmmm... what will Hoke & Co. do with Pocic cmmits too? Welcome Mr. Kugler!
This bodes well for the health of the OL over the length of the season. That pro style substitution thing is going to happen here.
On running plays...
for an Avatar. Not as cool as Snoopy on his Doghouse, but I can live with that.
So how are we going to fill out the class today? haha... I kid. Welcome Patrick!
4* OL commit and a Garmin win at Omloop! This day has started off well.
Seriously though, remember when Tommeke was invincible?
Welcome Patrick. This is a great pickup. As a few others have said above, we have heard via sources (commits, sam webb, etc.) that the coaches PLAN to take 5 OL. What happens with a situation like Pocic, for instance, now? Do you turn down a commitment from a player like him or do you (as a coach) shift your recruiting numbers a bit. I would be very interested to hear answers from of the knowledgeable football members (who know far more than me), such as Magnus, etc.
I would guess it depends on what happens with attrition. If numbers open up to where the coaches can address all of their needs and still have room for an elite OL like Pocic or Tunsil (please?), then maybe they take him. This is purely speculation. I don't think that the coaches would take Pocic if it meant Ty Isaacs spot would be taken, but if they have room for everyone they need plus 1, then they do it? Magnus?
Would Pocic want to commit with 5 already committed? I hope the other 4 don't get freaked out and bolt, committing this early gives plenty of time for someone to swoop in.
there could always be a switch from the OL to the DL. all good!
Does anyone know if *potential* position switches from this years (2012) OL class would/could have an effect on next years (2013). As far as the discussion of Kugler-center, still bringing in Pocic, etc. goes...
committing this early gives plenty of time for someone to swoop in
True enough ... but I have to believe Hoke and staff have that angle understood and work their golden poop magic as part of the process of keeping them committed.
Agreed. The staff will continue recruiting the kids who commit all they way until signing day. They will also keep up their relationships with guys like Tunsil, Pocic and McGovern in case one guy does decommit, or we have more attrition or an open slot comes available by February (2013).
I think your point about attrition is probably more important than a lot of us consider initially. The coaches have much more information (obviously) on the state of each player (who is coming/going, injury, motivation, etc.). I agree that I think they would first make sure all of their needs were filled (or able to be filled, number-wise), before taking additional spots at any given position.
I think I am still unable to comprehend that perhaps, just maybe, our OL depth issues of the past 3 years may be put to rest (moving forward). We may again be looking at a situation where the OL (even the most talented) are able to take that redshirt year to bulk up and learn the offense before (hopefully) getting in a rotation, then the 2-deep, and then eventually start.
EDIT: Intended as a response to sak2351 above
We are playing with house money now. Can sit back with five excellent guys in the fold and if later in the process a a top guy wants to commit we will likely make room for him. They used to call this the catbird seat = Sweet!
And somewhere in a dark place, Coach Dantonio cries himself to sleep....
Welcome to the family, Patrick!
/ 4 star mafia
/ My granny could lead the B1G running behind these guys.
/ and she has a walker....
Works for me.
I'll get started on the statue of him that will inevitably be built.
I still have concerns. For example...
I HAVE NO CONCERNS THIS IS AWESOME.
Given all weekend to brainstorm some concerns, we'll invent some.
So anyways, I was just thinking about how the '97 season could have been better.
If we had started stronger against Iowa, I wouldn't have passed out before the game ended.
when I think about how we punted right to Tim Dwight before halftime and he did his thing on us. Why didn't we just kick it out of bounds? ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! That really pisses me off. The rest of the season only sort of makes up for it.
i would venture to say we now have one of the best o-line classes in history over the past two recruiting cycles. And, to me, the crazy thing is all but one are from the midwest and they are all guys who are legit D-1 starters on pretty much any team.
Rivals #54 player in the country....too sweet. Dad the Steelers OL coach...too sweet. Sparty Jr. day having one less attendee...too sweet.
It's cool tho, because Sparty recruits intergalactically
That explains why some of their recruits treat humans as second class citizens.
Funny, because one might think that the success of their emperor while at Michigan (and now in the nfl), would have most recruits from space thinking about Michigan before thinking about State. I guess this whole "Dantonio owns the cosmos" meme has some truth to it??
You're on fire, Michael!
I laughed so hard my son started laughing with me and did not even know why. Joy is contagious.
FWIW, he was #1 on BSD's target list for o-linemen.
Technically yes, actually no. They say at the top of the board "(Recruits listed in no particular order...yet)"
that will pop up on RCMB later...
This is my favorite:
Somebody please let me know when U-M and OSU have everyone they want so that I can start paying attention to the kids we have a chance of actually seen playing for the Green and White.
Ah, back to normal.
"Wow. This is unbelievable I try to refrain from posting in such threads, but this is looking bad. It's like USC recruiting against Little Sisters of the Poor. Hoke is absolutely having his way with us right now. Even when Lloyd was here and we had JLS, we at least got these kids to give us a look. What Hoke is doing to Dantonio on the recruiting trail is absolute murder."
Hoke uber alles.
I almost like the Schadenfreude more than getting the recruits themselves, almost.
The disgust on the RCMB is rich, decadent you could say. And seeing Jon L. recruiting comparisons get worked into the mix...well this is a symphony green and white pain.
love it when theyre past denial and can only admit to getting owned
Your avatar is completely relevant in this thread, not only because of Sparty's tears of unfathomable sadness, but because that episode was just on 10 minutes ago.
You're a tad slow on the draw there:
Ah, delicious irony.
I thought last year's OL class was terrific. These two classes together are just TREMENDOUS. And, I don't think 6-4 is too tall for center. Clay Shiver was 6-4 and was certainly a great player.