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Man. That escalated quickly.
thread but I had a strong feeling that a seatbelt warning was needed.
He was nice enough to do it on my birthday too!
Hello!, well, that was fast!
Herm would hate this guy.
That was quick. Go to work young man and bring in the next recruiting class.
We now have the man with the coolest name in the history of sport on our team.
Prince Ali too.
2016 commitment = not a commitment
Not even giong to get excited
Okay, Buzz Killington.
Shane would agree.
Crawford, Campbell and Harris, all more recent examples and prospects not located in Michigan, would too
Click on the Messiah DeWeaver tag on the Hello post and you'll see this is a kid that has been begging for a Michigan offer for over a year. It's pretty clear that this is where he wants to be. I think you can pretty much stop your pessimism on this one.
the recruits I mentioned were all highly interested too.
hasn't come to poach yet. Just sayin.
He has chosen to camp at Michigan 3 years in a row. He has personally requested workouts in front of Al Borges, and then when Borges was canned, Nuss. He has driven his own recruitment, and he drove it to Michigan.
Just a really cool place to be. It's that simple
But what about all the commits that didn't de-commit? Be happy about the guys that are here and want to be here. Surely you don't want somebody whose heart isn't in it because they landed in the wrong spot.
with all that has happened recently...
But FWIW, this one is a bit different. This is THE offer that deWeaver wanted. This is his dream school. This isn't Crawford saying he grew up a fan, this is Shane Morris looking to commit to Michigan from day one. deWeaver will be a solid pick up. It also means I'll have to get used to starting sentences in lowercase when I'm talking about him... or is it Him?
Until they are here I no longer care or even want to know who we landed our missed on. Anything but that is an exercise in futility, IMO.
your feelings. Expressing them in a "Hello" post is pretty special though.
It also means I'll have to get used to starting sentences in lowercase when I'm talking about him
Most style guides say it's perfectly acceptable—if not preferred—to capitalize the "d" in such instances. Or you can reword the sentence.
Having a QB to lead and help put together a class 18 months before signing day is huge!
Holy wow that was fast. Welcome to Michigan!
Somewhere, Roy Roundtree is happy.
and Mike McCray.
I'll be 31 by the time he even plays.....yikes...
I'm already 31, yikes!
Holy shit! Hodor
Get off my lawn, unless you intend to mow it!
I'm older than both of you combined Double Yikes
Now I feel younger at 56.
Lolz you gonna die soon.
Looks when Tom Brady will be our QB when I am (sic) 31!
Today! I will be 40 by the time he plays
So you're already predicting a redshirt?
36 too, so, thanks for throwing out that ugly number.
just why.. are we talking about age when you are not even 40.
child please. dont do this.
you don't know what old is.
It's all relative. To twenty-somethings, somebody in their mid-30's is old.
I'll be 21 by the time he gets here........OH YEAH!
With a name like that he is sure to lead us to Football Valhalla. What?
Bring on the new Messiah, wherever He may roam.
Geez, I didn't even get a chance to fully go through the offer post.
Welcome to Michigan!
Sorry, but have to take this opportunity as it doesn't come along often.
"He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
That is pretty impressive.
Has anyone found where Michigan will lose a football game? I just can't seem to find the week we lose again and I've already graced my eyes through the 2020 schedule.
This is like 1901 all over again, except we may score 2 points a minute instead of 1.
I take it all back! It's a great name and his parents are to be applauded!
Had opportunity to go to Michigan, didn't heistate to accept.
The whiplash is severe! And I love it!
I really do...but there is just too much time with what has happened in recent memory still looming.
Like the stock market there will be 2 sides to the trade
Bulls: He camped here 3 years, is very familiar with the school, wanted to be a Michigan man.
Bears: He made a decision too early in the recruiting season, so much time to go, guys like this who commit immeidately upon offer usually come back 4-5 months later and open up recruitment.
So I guess you can choose what side you want. Usually QBs are guys who lead the "recruiting" charge within a class so hard to see the QB decommitting like a WR or RB would.
I just have to be cautiously optimistic at this point, ya know?
To protect our gain, I think you could say that Michigan has purchased a Put on this transaction. By all accounts there are several other quarterbacks interested, therefore if the market took a downturn we could let the option expire and only be out the premium (deWeaver).
We would then be free to locate other investments after incurring a minimal loss. Perhaps not the most enviable position, but hey, at least we didn't write a naked call and go up until signing day without getting a QB in the fold.
Well, that did not take long at all, did it? The previous thread about the offer went up, say, four hours or so ago? In any case, the Hudl footage looked really good - strong and accurate throws, and not that high school stats mean much at the college level, but he's already a rather productive QB as it is.
Also, by the appearance of a second thread (now gone), he might have committed twice, so you do have to like the enthusiasm behind it as well.
Welcome to Michigan, Messiah deWeaver!
Who is the last 'M' QB to come out of Ohio? Without looking it up, I can't think of a starter since Grbac, but I feel like I'm missing someone obvious. Benny Friedman would probably be the best, followed by Elvis; hopefully, Messiah can challange that list.
Andy Mignery? Although he had to change positions to earn a starting role.
But Michael Taylor, Dennis Franklin, Larry Cipa, and Scot Loeffler were from Ohio, among other significant Michigan QBs.
Where is your Messiah now?
Not just any Messiah, but the Messiah of the Weavers!
Their long wait is over.
but your comment implies we will be losing late in the game. Which clearly will not occur. Or would it only be a tie and the Hail Mary is to win it?
Going into halftime, obviously.
End of the first half, of course.
His Hail Mary is surely full of grace.
I'm shocked we offered so early.
A 17yr 6 mo year old Soph? He'll be almost 20 as a pure Freshman. Works in hockey.
Michigan recruiting...travels at the speed of "the Messiah"...buckle up, it's faster than the speed of the light!
Some good quotes from a Steve Lorenz 247 article:
"I wasn't immediately sure I was going to commit, but my dad was at camp with me and we talked about it," he said. "It didn't take really long for me to realize that Michigan was the place I wanted to be. They have been recruiting me for a long time, and I have always loved it up there. It was an easy choice for me to make."
While sitting in Coach Hoke's office to discuss the commitment, the four-star made a promise to his future head coach.
"I know what needs to be done now," he noted. "I told him that I plan to do whatever it takes to get the best guys in the country around me. That's part of my job now as a Michigan commitment, and I am going to do whatever I can to get some great players to play here."
Even Jurgen is excited
Trotwood-Madison pipeline is alive and well.
Based on the trend, it means we're getting another commit from Trotwood in '16.
Rivals lists Roland Walder:
He has offers from Bowling Green, UK, Pitt, Robert Morris and Toledo.
Wasn't expecting a commitment, but glad you did.
I just got thrown across the aisle into the lap of a pretty woman. I was not ready for this at all. This is a rare ocassion where the informative update will tell me a ton of stuff that I don't already know. I've heard his name, but looking forward to learning more about him.
This is what happens when you are not always buckled up!
That guy died.
In case anyone's interested, here are my thoughts on DeWeaver:
So would you say it's a great pick-up, or one of the better pick ups we've ever had?
Space Coyote (earlier thread) make similar observations about his throwing deficiencies.
Nuss is clearly qualified to evaluate QB talent. What do you think he is seeing that led to the Offer? Or, is it a consensus pick from the rest of the staff -- i.e., Nuss didn't make the primary call -- that was suggested in the Offer thread?
it sounds like Nuss spent a lot of time at SMSB and the camp. If you read the writeup by Ace it sounds like he is improving. I have a feeling Nuss is very ok with this.
Obviously Nuss and Borges are both very good QB evaluators. I am just curious what they can learn in person that can't be picked up on film with regard to a QB's aptitude to improve throwing mechanics. Michigan has had some good/great QBs -- recently -- who never overcame their throwing deficiencies.
In person you can see personality, leadership traits, coachability, attitude, size just to name a few things. It's hard to pick those things up watching a Youtube highlight clip.
You can really get a look at a kids mechanics. You can see if they are the sort of issues that can be ironed out a bit more or are more inate in the way he plays. You can see how he uses his feet after a bit of coaching. How he rotates, where his power comes from, etc. That's why coaches want to see kids throw in person before offering. They get a much better feel for their true upside and deficiencies.
I'll say this about DeWeaver, whom I have not seen throw since his junior season ended. This is nothing new, but we have a quarterback who was pretty bad at throwing the football last season. He spent a lot of time this off-season getting some extra coaching and working hard on his mechanics, and now he looks significantly better from last November until now. So sometimes it just takes an extra bit of dedication or some added maturity as far as paying attention to timing, mechanics, etc. Quarterback is the most difficult position to play in football, so while I have issues with what I've seen from DeWeaver, he's got time to develop.
his sophomore season ended. He is going into his junior year.
Folks were crying about the collapse of recruiting now we have QBs for 2015 and 2016.
I think it is very interesting that Borges was pursuing Mr. deWeaver and Nussmeier, after a very through four days, agreed.
Maybe, just maybe, this coaching staff has recruiting under control.
Welcome to Michigan Mr. deWeaver may you exceed your expectations.
Throws are consistently on the wrong shoulder, not enough velocity and the spirals aren't always great. Unless he greatly improves his arm in the next 2-4 years I'd say he's a depth player.
Easy Karsh ugh or is it Gator? Or just some dude that likes 97.1 the ticket a lot ?
Just my analysis. Obviously we're looking at 5 years before he even hits the field but as of now he doesn't have the mechanics. On short and long throws he short arms the ball leading to a lot of hang time. At the collegiate level a DB will close on that throw and deflect or intercept.
Well, I'll just put it down to Nussmeier's inexperience with QBs.
Remember, you're looking at SOPHOMORE tape. The kid started on Varsity, on a good team, as a FROSH. By the time he would be in line to even get consideration as a starter, he'll have 3 full seasons to develop, and probably 5. Did you grow any stronger between 17 and 20? 17 and 22? I did, and I sure as hell didn't have an S&C coach like he'll have.
We have to remember that he is only going into his JR yr of High School. He has many great qualities of a good QB already. Hopefully he will continue to mature physically.
And see a Hello when I log in. Welcome aboard Messiah! Keep working hard!
Probably need a qb coach named Handel
This guy has game!
The best prospect named after the son of God since Jesus Shuttlesworth. Good thing we didn't have to get into a recruiting battle with Chick Deagan and the Tech U hostesses.
ha great reference...gotta love the big state vs tech u battle
The old Jesus & Finkelstein joke. Now, they might have to add a line about Jesus working under the assumed name of Messiah deWeaver.
Hail to the Future Michigan Wolverine! And as Finkelstein The Tailor might say, Go Blue-ish!
But my wife will be 34 and acts like she's 22
he has made tremendous strides.
There is a writeup on MLive where they spoke to Allen Trieu and he had this comment.
"But then he shows up at an Elite 11 camp in Columbus a few weeks ago, and he's 200 pounds-plus. That's made a tremendous difference. Not only does he look like a college quarterback, but he's improved his arm strength, he's improved his mechanics, he used to have a side-arm release but he's worked on that. He looks really, really good right now, he's been impressive lately. Not only that, he's a very smart kid, I found out today he's on track to be his class valedictorian at Trotwood. ... He's got some intangibles."
Don from Mgoblog asked Sam Webb about it on the recruiting roundup and he also said he is much improved in some of the areas that magnus and Space Coyote have mentioned. He said Nuss really likes him and was telling people how he seems incredible upside to him. Sam also pointed out that Michigan was in very good shape for Costello and still would be if Michigan decided to go for a second quarterback, which he doubts. This was not Michigan taking someone out of desperation. He said it sounds like Nuss thinks this young man is going to be a good quarterback.
In the Mlive article, Trieu also said Michigan had options.
"They've been in on some really good quarterbacks and some of them are extremely interested, but I think this is going to be it," Trieu said. "Looking at how they've recruited quarterbacks recently, under Brady Hoke, they've taken one a year. I don't see them taking two, I don't see that making sense for them.
I don't think some of you are giving Nuss enough credit given his track record for working with quarterbacks. From what I am seeing, he's someone who is going to be moving up the boards quickly.
Kids improve, and they can improve fairly rapidly with the right coaching. I think the concern is always going to be if they can take it from a controlled setting to a game setting. You hear a lot about Malzone looking great in one on one drills and the like, very controlled settings, and then struggling a bit in some of the other settings (relative to other guys). That's because he's still improving on his mechanics and engraining them in his muscle memory, rather than reverting. deWeaver will have a similar concern coming up.
Don't get me wrong, improving in controlled settings is the first step, it doesn't just change over night. But you need tons of reps and constant coaching so that you don't revert. I'll be interested in seeing both Malzone's and deWeaver's highlight films from next year to see if those things are transferring into game film.
We've been awaiting your return.
The father of another 2016 QB recruit had great things to say about deWeaver and #Michigan staff. Class all around.
— Brandon Brown (@CoachBrown3) June 19, 2014
2016 #Michigan commit Erik Swenson says he and new commit deWeaver are ready to get after recruits and build Team 137. QB/LT good start.
— Brandon Brown (@CoachBrown3) June 19, 2014
As long as deWeaver doesn't decommit, I'll be happy.
Buckle up. Round 2! Messiah is announcing tonight at 6:30 via TomVH
He's not coming to Michigan, so why would be buckle up?