Hello - Channing Stribling CB 2013
Congrats to the kid but he needs to get faster if he ever wants to see the field..Mcquay, Bailey, and Treadwell was my last 3 wish list. That is out the window..
#1 - Would you like a tissue?
#2 - How do you know that he needs to get faster? Were you at camp? Is that you Coach Mallory?
#3 - Who said we were ever going to get all three on your wish list?
#4 - Who says we still can't?
#5 - Posts like that are ridiculous...we should be happy for a kid who got an offer to attend one of the best universities in the world AND play football at the school we love, not whining about the crap you're whining about.
Bonus - You ALWAYS take kids who performed well at camp in front of your own eyes. You mix them in with the 5* and 4* kids would may have maxed out their potential. I've said this for YEARS. You need guys that flew under the radar and are just scratching the surface in addition to the kids who are highly rated going into their HS senior year.
How many times do you see a kid who's a top propsect because he's bigger, stronger, faster at the HS level, but gets to college, never improves and everyone catches up? This is a kid who the coaches feel can and will contribute in a major way with good coaching (which we have).
The kid comes from a prominant high school, maybe he had a 5* starting ahead of him and he didn't play much last year? Maybe he was late to the camp circuit? Maybe he's just now getting good? Who knows and who cares, all I know is our coaches saw him FIRSTHAND. We're not offering a 2* prospect that no one has ever seen. This kid was at camp and got an offer. That tells me all I need to know. It should for you as well.
Would you like a tissue? You've got shit on your head. I suspect it's been up your ass.
But, seriously, calm down. Guy says Stribling's slow, which is a fair evaluation. That's the kind of commentary for which this board was designed.
THIS.
I don't know why it's considered bad form on this board to point out such things, but Stribling looks distinctly slow on his highlight tape. He doesn't outrun anyone and gets caught from behind by players who look like they'll never sniff even a D2 offer. If that's him in high school, I shudder to think about him on the field in college, where there will be D-lineman faster than he is right now.
And it's not as if MaizeNBlueAboveAl and I are the only ones saying this. In a recent post, Brian's block quote from Sam Webb echoed this sentiment more than once in the course of three sentences (i.e., "Though not a blazer..." and "Some schools might be scared away by his lack of...top end speed.").
I'd be interested to hear from the MGoTrainers about how much faster one can get with proper instruction and practice.
It's fair enough to be concerned about his speed, but it's in poor taste to say "well, so much for player X that I liked better than this guy".
Most positions I would say film is better than camp drills: QB, RB, OL, DL, LB. S is a tossup. But WR and CB might be the two positions where I'd believe my eyes based on camp drills over game film. Corner is really tough to judge by looking at game film unless you're in a league that really tests the CBs in a meaningful way. You can easily play corner and go a whole game without a meaningful challenge that highlights your skills. You can go a whole season without much showing up, for that matter, other than run support.
That said, I'm a little surprised that we didn't hear anything in the twice-daily feeds from camp on Rivals (or here) noting his performance in the drills. They usually dig fairly deep into possible sleepers and he never came up to my recollection.
Anyway, welcome to the kid-- he passed the eye test of some seriously knowledgeable eyeballs.
I am sure the coaches know a lot more about this stuff than we do. This is why it's always a surprise to the people who follow recruiting when something like this happens. I for one could care less about class rankings and more about bringing in kids who want to play for the University of Michigan. If the coaches have to "beg" kids to come and play here, my guess is we don't want them!
FWIW, neither Bailey or McQuay were ever going to commit to Michigan. Those who think that are delusional...it would be a long shot at best.
Welcome to Michigan: Where you are only accepted (by some fans) if you are a 4* or 5*
Stribling plays both CB and WR fairly well according to what I heard (and he has no stated preference for either). So I wonder if McQuay can still commit and if he did Stribling's future would likely be at WR. Plus as others have said, attrition will open doors.
I know the coaches said they wanted him as a DB, but if some other 5* falls out of a tree, that option is still open. Personally 3* (which means starter in a BCS conference on the star) and 6' 2" sounds good to me.
My guess is that McQuay was a long shot and now see a lot of potential in this kid and pulled the trigger before his recruitment blew up.
We've got a class brimming with 4 and 5 stars, one that will finish close to #1 in the nation, a better recruiting class than Michigan has had in years, and people are upset that the coaches offered a kid who they saw play with their own eyes, at a Michigan camp, and desperately wants to come here over some kid they haven't seen who a group of semi-professional talent evaluators said is good, who only maybe sorta wants to come here.
You people are turning into Bama. Seriously. "We don't want them unless they're a five star, and we're cool with screwing over anybody else for the next great five star flash in the pan."
All you people saying he's slow - You do realize that cutting to the side to avoid a tackle slows you down, right? I can count 8 or 9 instances on that film where he avoids the first defender with a juke to the side, but then is swarmed by 4 others. The only way you can make a comment about his SPEED is if he's running FREE in the OPEN FIELD, which he only does when he's running his routes, and if you look, he plays SLOT RECEIVER and so most of his routes are 7 yard posts, out routes, slants, CORNERS, AND WHEELS. Therefore, looking at his corner/wheel route is the best and only way to evaluate his SPEED from that film. And, if you look at his corner/wheel routes, he runs them with a LOT of burst and completely blows past the defenders.
Other than this, there is no way that you can judge his speed because there are always 7 unblocked defenders surrounding him.
Congrats young man.
So the coaches got a verbal from a kid they like football wise, and not only that, from what I understand, Channing is a pretty boi.
Channing @Prettyboi_Strib
If his highlight film is a representation of how he played at the camp, then the coaches probably want him for how well he plays deep downfield throws. He's 6'2 and does a good job of timing his path to the ball, putting him in good position to make a play on it. Looking back to the Ohio State and Virginia Tech games, Mattison has decided to leave the corners on their own and load the box versus run heavy teams. Va Tech and OSU then countered by throwing a parade of deep balls at JT and Blake. While we managed to not get killed on them, it was clear we had some issues tracking guys down field. I think Stribling was made to defend against those.
For people with their panties in a bunch becaue the kid isn't a 3 or 4 star, go kick rocks.
This kid would be at least a 3 star, possibly a 4 if Michigan would have offered him 3-6 months ago. These recruiting websites are a business. Don't think for a second if any one of them knew Michigan was interested in this kid, that he wouldn't have received positive reviews and a higher ranking. Each of which, gives their respective website more page hits.
If the kid received a full ride from Michigan, the kid can play. Look at our defensive staff, I think they can evaluate talent. I'll take our staff over some employee for Scout or Rivals anyday of the week when evaluating a player.
I put on Stribling's highlight reel and expected to see a Jareth Glanda clone, (god bless Jareth Glanda), but instead I saw a goht damn veritable touchdown machine. Hoke is a genius.
People who are concerned about his highlight tape need to keep in mind that they offered him as a corner, not as a WR. The defensive highlights are scant, but he seems to show some pretty good hips and a willingness to hit. Plus he's 6'2", which is helpful.
Add to that, he is a progam builder type kid. One that is not going to quit or transfer. He will build depth at the position and compete. Having a few of these kids, that may not contribute for 3-4 years, but play a part in preparation, is crucial to having a complete and deep team.
Interesting, Caleb Day just committed to Illinois as well. He's a 4 Star athlete (according to rivals) from Hillard Darby who was also at Michigan's camp and was attempting to earn an offer. Which means that the coaches obviously thought Stribling was a better prospect.
All the interesting above comments aside, it's tomorrow. Have we heard an official announcement from the kid???
Is there any chance this could be a grey shirt?
It's official as of 8 minutes ago, per his twitter. It does not seem to be a grayshirt situation at this time.
Yup... was just trying to edit my post and you beat me to it... officially commited about 90 seconds before my post. Should have had multiple tabs open. lol
He got some looks from Auburn and Bama early on, and was mentioned as a person to keep an eye on last year by Dave Hooker (ESPN) and labeled him a sleeper
If you want the best kids coming to your camps, you have to have a "scholarship" prize or two for the winners. This assures you of seeing all of the late bloomers.
You get to assess a kids work habits, ability to compete, character etc. I think it is brilliant. Go Stribling!
Your data set: Fuzzy youtube video and a number assigned by "experts" that assign numbers to thousands of HS kids by watching fuzzy youtube videos.
Coachs' data set: watching the kid over three days of camp, talking to the kid in person. Talking to all his coaches, parents, etc. Probably a lot more higher quality film. Knowing where we stand with other recruits. Knowing actual attrition situation. Oh yeah, and you know, actually knowing enough about football that people are willing to pay you large sums of money.
Welcome to the family Channing, may you wear the maize and blue with pride.
Congrats Channing on earning your schollie!!!
I would have probably waited it out a little bit, let him know we are interested, but want to see a few more things out of him during his senior season....but what do I know...I mean I've only won 5 consecutive BCS titles in NCAA 12..