Heisman Trophy Ceremony Open Thread (& Marinovich Project after)

Submitted by M-Wolverine on

Is it going to the favorite? Or will all the still voting for Luck votes put him over the top? Will the race be tight, or a Desmond like blowout?

Followed by the next inspired by 30 for 30, The Marinovich Project.

RickH

December 10th, 2011 at 7:32 PM ^

I think everybody knows that RGIII is going to win.  People are hyping this up way to much and saying it's a hard year to chose when it shouldn't even be close.  Robert Griffin is by far the best choice.

BRCE

December 10th, 2011 at 7:36 PM ^

Best choice doesn't win the Heisman that often and I don't think RG3 is near the lock you are saying he is.

If he wins, I'll enjoy watching it since it represents a crumbling of the ridiculously unfair BCS title game wall the moron voters have put up around the trophy.

RickH

December 10th, 2011 at 7:55 PM ^

I must be reading something else because I never said he was a lock at all.  I said it shouldn't be close because he's by far the best but that doesn't mean it won't actually be close.  I also said I think everybody knows he'll win considering every prediction out there agrees with me.  That doesn't mean I think he's a lock though.

BRCE

December 10th, 2011 at 7:42 PM ^

30 for 30/ESPN Films has lost a lot of luster for me. It's really become overproduced and overdramatic. Some of the musical choices are embarrassing and play like a Michael Bay parody.

Also doesn't help that a few of the recent editions were very Boston-slanted (not surprising given you-know-who's involvement).

Lac55

December 10th, 2011 at 7:42 PM ^

I'm still interested just to make sure RG3 gets what he deserves. Just have that feeling that good ole SEC lovers will give it to Richardson.

RickH

December 10th, 2011 at 7:57 PM ^

If Denard plays like he did in the last couple of games, I don't only think Denard has the best chance to get there but I think he wins the whole damn thing.  His passing was pretty damn good and with the addition of running back yardage on the ground, he'd be a lock.  Problem is him keeping that up.

Vasav

December 10th, 2011 at 8:03 PM ^

If Michigan has the year we want/expect them to have - just being the quarterback on that team will make him a contender - and the same for Fitz just by being the running back. His numbers are important for the award - but secondary to the number of wins we have.

M-Wolverine

December 10th, 2011 at 8:11 PM ^

He wins by being the leader of a team that wins a lot of games. He starts that by shocking the world on a national stage. Woodson and Desmond dominated games and made big plays on the biggest stages. Denard started that at the end of the year. He's got to do it all year.

MilkSteak

December 10th, 2011 at 8:38 PM ^

Nah, Fitz has almost no chance. Barring a ridiculous year stats wise, the answer has to be Denard 100%. The Heisman is much more about the hype you have surrounding you. Denard's the more exciting player to watch and the story surrounding every Michigan game for the rest of the country is how Denard does. That's the kind of hype you need. 

Zone Left

December 10th, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^

It's just a silly popularity contest. A huge portion of the voters don't watch many games, so they're essentially told who to vote for by the highlight shows. 

The Most Outstanding Player in college football isn't always the best quarterback or running back on the best team. It's just an impossible question to answer. I think it's resonable to have some fun by picking the best players on each team to create All-American teams, but picking anything close to the best player in the country as voted on by an amalgamation of people who may not even watch more than one game a week is silly.

Zone Left

December 10th, 2011 at 8:13 PM ^

Dude, none of those players play two ways. Baylor's defense is Michigan 2010 bad.

I remember listening to EDSBS Live a few years ago and Peter Bean, one of the co-hosts and a Texas fan, was telling everyone every week to figure out ways to watch Baylor play because this Freshman named Robert Griffin was amazing. After watching him, he's as close as anyone has come to being Vince Young since he left college.

RickH

December 10th, 2011 at 9:46 PM ^

He's a product of his offensive line and many could fill his place.  That's the reason everybody puts Richardson over Ball, because Richardson has great stats still while being irreplacable.

I keep thinking about Barry Sanders though and his amazing yardage.  Nobody for awhile has even sniffed his single season rushing record (though I wish they included the bowl game as well) except Kevin Smith at UCF a couple years ago.

michfan6060

December 10th, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^

Griffin 2011 stats

3998 yards 36 tds 6 ints 72.4 completion % 192.3 QB rating 644 rushing yards 9 tds

team record: 9-3

 

Denards 2010 stats

2570 18 tds 11 ints 62.5 % 149.6 rating 1702 rushing yards 14 tds

team record- 7-5

 

Griffin accounted for about 400 more total yards, 13 more touchdowns, 5 less ints, a much better completion percentage and Qb rating and more wins.