Heisman Idiocy
OK, now this is just getting dumb. Here is where some of the Heisman "candidates" rank this year.
Total Offense: Jimmy #6, McCoy #12, Tebow #38
Passing Efficiency: Jimmy #7, Tebow #9, McCoy #10
Rushing: Tebow #77 (5 other QBs ahead of him)
Passing (Compl/Game): McCoy #4, Jimmy #9, Tebow #84 (behind Tate @ #81)
Passing Yds/Game: Jimmy #5, Colt #10, Tebow #74 (Tate is #79)
So, why are these guys even in the running??
November 28th, 2009 at 6:54 PM ^
Did you look at what schools these players go to?
November 28th, 2009 at 8:03 PM ^
Yup, you hit the nail on the head. The Heisman has turned into the "are you a pretty good player on one of the top 5 teams in the nation" award.
(How else do you explain: Troy Smith, 2006?)
November 28th, 2009 at 6:58 PM ^
Why is there four or five threads a day about or involving Tebow? If people are so sick about hearing about him....why talk about him?
November 28th, 2009 at 11:36 PM ^
Ditto on MSU.
November 28th, 2009 at 6:58 PM ^
Which guys?
I think Jimmy would probably be a legit candidate if his team had managed to win more. He's really an excellent quarterback, even if he's helped out by having those two absurd receivers.
McCoy's pretty good, too, though throwing bombs to Shipley isn't too hard against B12 pass defense. (Go ahead and look up the real numbers to prove me wrong here)
Tebow isn't in the same place as they are as far as national rankings, etc. but he's essential to the success of his team's offense and has scored quite a few points.
Who do you want to give it to?
Ingram?
Moore?
Gerhart?
Mallet?
Suh?
Berry?
Floyd?
November 28th, 2009 at 7:00 PM ^
McClain!
Then Gerhart and Suh.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:04 PM ^
ZOLTAN!
November 28th, 2009 at 7:06 PM ^
Moore, Gerhart, Ingram, Spiller
November 28th, 2009 at 7:10 PM ^
I'd give it to Ingram personally, but Kellen Moore's 38-3 touchdown-interception ratio is just silly.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:29 PM ^
I know I'm a homer, but I think Brandon Graham is the best football player in America. Rumor has it that that's what that trophy is about?
November 28th, 2009 at 7:52 PM ^
Case Keenum: 70% Completion, 36 TDs, 6 Int, 4600 Yards, 8.32 Yds/Att, 160 Rating.
He has 1,000 more yards passing than the guy at #2!
November 28th, 2009 at 7:59 PM ^
Suh, Moore, Berry, Gerhart, and McClain (in no order)
Problem is that three play on defense and the other two don't play at big-name schools.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:42 PM ^
Most of the stats you gave aren't bad at all considering the teams that these guys play against, except for maybe in Tebow's case. McCoy and Clausen rank in the top ten in the nation in most of the given stats. Most of the people ahead of them in those categories probably play in cup-cake conferences. Stats aren't always the most important thing in determining the Heisman winner. I'm not saying that these guys, other than maybe McCoy, should win the Heisman, but those stats don't really prove that much. If the award was for best stats, it would be going to players in mid-major conferences most years.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:53 PM ^
Complain about the Heisman candidates and then suggest guys who have been rolling up big stats against shitty competition. That's the kind of thinking that brought us Andre Ware.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:16 PM ^
While we are on the topic of Heisman idiocy, was I the only one who was pissed that Bradford won last year? I thought he was a good player on a GREAT team, but that McCoy was a great player on a good team that turned his team into a national title contender. Plus, he set the record for completion percentage. It was something disgusting like 78%.
I can't emphasize enough that I am not saying Bradford was bad. He put up sick numbers. But he had a TON of weapons around him.
Anyone agree with me?
November 28th, 2009 at 9:16 PM ^
It's the most worthless award in college football anymore. Hang it up, it's time to stop worrying about it.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:09 AM ^
What's the point of posting "These guys shouldn't win the Heisman" when you don't also post who SHOULD win the Heisman? Why bring up a problem if you don't have an idea for the solution?
November 29th, 2009 at 2:52 PM ^
Well, then. Seems like the consensus is that the Heisman should be restricted to only FBS schools that finish in the Top 10 after the end of the regular season.
And, you don't even have to be the best at your position (let alone the "most outstanding" player in all of college football).
That's OK but it is certainly not the currently stated criteria.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:06 PM ^
I believe the proper spelling is "JIMMAY!"
November 29th, 2009 at 4:13 PM ^
You left out an "A". Just sayin'.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:21 PM ^
Those stats don't seem that bad to me. To be in the top 10 nationally in a statistical category (out of 120 starting QBs) is pretty impressive. Keep in mind that different teams face different schedules, and that each coach has his own ideas about when to pull his starter in a blowout.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:28 PM ^
Never said the stats were "bad". I just don't believe that they are Heisman worthy. If they are Heisman worthy, what award should the guys with better stats get?
November 29th, 2009 at 4:44 PM ^
Let's take Clausen here. According to your numbers above, he's in the top 10 nationally in total offense, passing efficiency, completions per game and passing yards per game. Why wouldn't that be Heisman-worthy? Is there a player who is ahead of him in all four categories? And if so, did that player face anywhere near the same level of competition? If you can answer "yes" to both of those, then that player is certainly deserving.
November 30th, 2009 at 8:52 PM ^
Today's Heisman winner is no longer the best player in college football. It has become an award given to a skill position player who is the best player on a team that is a front runner for the national championship. Granted, it has gone to a skill position player 99% of the time, but in the past it would to go to the BEST player in the country, and not a really good player on one of the best teams.