Having multiple rivals
Every team in the B10 has their Super Bowl against us.
but I'm pretty sure they haven't given a shit for the past 24 games.
Peyton sure built a boring-ass house.
You can't ask for a better opportunity to play against high level competition. We're not where we want to be matchup wise, but just having the opportunity is huge for us.
Most popular teams have multiple rivals.
So if we stop being rivals with them, things will be easier? Brilliant!
Obviously you are not reading what my original statement was
So ND MSU isn't a rival?
and the terrorists win...
ND has UofM, SC and MSU.
Dude.... You forgot the mighty Boilermakers
ND has Stanford, UofM and USC
I love playing against those guys, but I don't care about them enough to be intensly focused on their games when we aren't playing. I'm very surprised at how invested in tonight's game Michigan fans seem to be. I just frankly do not care what happens.
Plus, I've moved on to hockey season.
Hockey season is too damn long.
Hockey always counts
...but every team is going to play just as hard vs. us as they do OSU.
If only WE played everyone as hard as we played OSU.
you eventually get hated. I think having more rivalry games is an advantage. It makes it much harder to mail it in - no opportunities to go through the motions. We haven't handled our rivals very well in the past 7-10 years. Our easiest rival ND is going away to find an easier schedule. MSU and OSU have our number over the last 7+ years.
Michigan has to get batter in the trenches and get meaner if they want to strat making these rivalry games true rivalries again.
Completly agree, having more rivals does make for an exciting season
Because teams don't get up to play Alabama....
Also with ND exiting we now have 2 rivals we actually play... so less of an excuse. But really this is lame - Iowa, PSU, Wisconsin, NW are not rivals but have given us dogfights and/or beaten us more often than not the past decade.
If we had players who were developed like Wiscy and MSU does (maybe it will happen down the road, but right now it is lacking), combined with a great coaching staff these type of theories would not need to be discussed.
The whole point of playing any sports is competing so offcourse any team will play their hardest to win, no matter who it is...I was talking more about importance of rivalry games.. I gurantee you that we can loose every game BUT if we beat ND, MSU and OSU, no one here will call for Hokes or Borges head
That is Spartan thinking...or was for decades. Happy to go 1-11 as long as UM was one win. So you think if we went 3-8 every year but beat those 3 people would not call for firings? If we have fallen that far it is very sad.
Tennessee only has 1 major rival - Florida. Tennesse has been bad for a decade. Maybe if they went down to 0 rivals they would do better.
Don't complicate it. When you have better players, and better coaches it doesn't matter. Did it matter in the 70s, 80s and 90s? When UM dominated MSU, played even with ND and more often than not beat OSU.
I agree, just frustration of being bad for 6 yrs and constantly loosing to your main rivals makes you think about this kind of stuff
loosed to any one of those teams. Let the program worry about competing, you'll give yourself a headache.
So 11-2 is bad now? That's unfortunate. You might never be un-frustrated again.
I think Georgia and Alabama are huge Tennessee rivals as well. Not to dismiss your point, but just to mention that Florida is not their only rival, and maybe not even their biggest.
I knew when I typed that I'd get blowback on their rivalry but thats beside the point. The Spurrier Fulmer rivalry had me thinking that went to the top of the UT rivalry board for about a decade there. I am sure they have other rivals. But the larger point remains. I guess too many rivals has killed UT the past decade whereas too many rivals did not hurt them in the 80s and 90s, etc.
Just as a fyi, Georgia's top three rivals are Florida, Auburn, and GT. Tennessee is always a big game, but its more due to the importance of winning the East, not really because of a rivarly.
Tennessee's biggest rival is Alabama
is a big rivalry. 3rd Saturday in October every year. SEC made a point to keep this game on the schedule when Bama and Tennessee were placed in opposite divisions.
Having more than one rival is fun, it's especially comical how pissy it tends to make the one you care less about.
It's Hoke's job to get the team motivated and "up" for every game regardless of the name on their jerseys.
Michigan has to equal the hate that they get from all opponents.
I think that has been our problem, it feels like we have not wanted as much, but the osu game last week was a little different, we actually played like we had something to prove and thats how we should always play...msu plays like that every game
Not sure why
Illinois has hated us for decades. They think Bo sent Gary Moeller there to destroy their football program. It didn't help when we ran up the score on them after Moeller got fired and what irks them the most is that their best basketball team in history lost to us in the final four.
I'm sure it dates back before that but I don't.
Note they voted to send Ohio to the Rose Bowl in 1973.
"The leaders and the best"
All opponents get up for Michigan in all sports. It is the natural order of things.
it wasn't the rivalries so much as winning the B1G. We were going to get everyone's best punch, sure. But we expected to win. Hell, Ohio's entire tradition of those gold pants has to do with the idea that they need to be reminded that we put our pants on one leg at a time. Everyone chases us. . . We never overly concerned ourselves with the rivalries back in the day because we always expected to win. . .
Now we only have two though since ND is out of the picture after the 2014 game.
The ND series is ending. Florida has 3 main rivals FSU, Tenn and UGA. USC has ND, UCLA and probably one with Stanford now. Plenty of other schools have multiple rivals.
I guess that tonight having multiple rivals means that every highlight shown at every break in the action is one of our team getting clobbered. I know we only lost by 1 to OSU, but you sure couldn't tell that be the horror reel they're running tonight.
There's no disadvantage. Rivalry games get you better recruits.
Frankly if you are good people think of you as a rival - just a few years back, after Wisconsin beat Michigan, Alvarez called it a "program win".
However, if we keep going 8-5, you won't have to worry much anymore.
Just win! Seriously though, did you hear any teams in the 70s, 80s, 90s whining about having multiple rivals?
They need to play with hate in their hearts.
They need to be like John cena.
Illinois also has an imaginary rivalry with us.
The nice thing about these "root for the meteor" games is that someone has to lose. There is excellent schadenfreude to be found in reading this thread:
One. We have one rivalry. Ohio.
We, as a fan base, measure all our successes and failures on the relation to that school. Everything else is theater. Don't get me wrong, ND is nice but it was forced upon us by ADs and TV execs. MSU is nice, but a lot us have friends, family with ties to East Lansing. I don't hate MSU. Many have already pointed out that our historical success makes us "rivals" with many, many schools.
Toledo war, Bo, Woody. Griffin & Woodson. 10 year war, snow bowl, '69, 313, go for two.
Nothing against ND & MSU, but last game of the season, it really feels like UM has four phases of the season ( in chronological order):
Sans maybe iron bowl, Red Sox / Yankees, USSR/ USA, there is nothing like it in all of sport......
Just my $0.02 (like most things on the internet )
This post proves one thing: you have one rival.
Everyone's got a different order for Michigan's rivalries, because at the end of the day it's usually based on who's around you and who will give you the most crap about a loss. For me, I like beating OSU more than MSU, but I dislike losing to MSU more because there are a ton of MSU fans around me that tend to get annoying if they win.
At the end of the day, they hate us more than we hate them.
Yet another year they have screwed OSU's season. UM hasn't done that OSU in many years. Not happy about it but them are the facts...
"Yet another year" might be overstating it a tad.
The last time we play ND for a while is next year. So, things just got 1/3 better for you.
I think you have it reversed. Your superbowl is against MSU and OSU.