I know he didn't play here, but my vote is for Matt Millen.
Hated Detroit athletes
This was people Detroit likes and everyone else hates.... We all hate Matt Millen
I bet MM was loved everywhere else... He left some pretty nice talent in the draft for the other 31 teams to select.
He drafted, Joey Harrington,Charles Rodgers,Mike Williams,Roy Williams,Boss Bailey, and Drew Stanton, all in the first 2 rounds. If you don't hate him, then you probably are not a Lion's fan. Thankfully I am not.
But when I read the thread title I thought it might be "what Detroit athlete did you not like?" Harder to pick, on field. Guys like Laimbeer might be hated, but he was loved here.
I feel that Suh is still liked by a lot of the country. He is leading the defensive tackle all star voting.
I would agree with your list. Ty Cobb was so mean, and he was hated for the way he played...
When I first read the title, I thought it was our least favorite Detroit athlete, which is definitely Brandon Inge. He is vastly overrated in my opinion, and paid way too much.
We should totally have a reasonable debate about Brandon Inge....
Seriously, though, that's a whole other story. Without getting political, Brandon Inge is the [controversial person] of Detroit sports figures. I don't understand how a baseball player can polarize a fan base as much as Inge does.
Mod edit: Don't even mention prominent politician's names unless directly involving the University or college athletics. It's an invitation for flame wars.
Ok, let's be adults here. There is no denying that any President of the United States is a polarizing figure. I was making a point without saying anything partisan. I can be a republican, a democrat, an indepedent, a member of the whig party, anything and recognize the polarization of the office.
I understand the rules and all, but we can probably do without censorship. I wasn't being political, I was making a point about Brandon Inge by comparing him to the only other figure that is similarly polarizing in the SE Michigan area.
Gerald Ford did many unforgivable things.
I feel that Suh is still liked by a lot of the country
I'm not sure you're right about that one....
As someone who lives outside Detroit, I can tell you that's not how most people think of him. Whether deserved or not his continuous "rough" play on the field seems to have earned him a reputation as a cheap shot artist and a bully. I'm not trying to take away from his talent, because's he's a fantastic player, but his actions speak way louder than his words.
Also, the argument that "he's just bigger and stronger than everyone else" is totally laughable. Sure, he's a monster, but its the NFL ... they all are. I'd like to see Schwartz get in his ear a bit more and start threatening to fine/suspend him for penalties that cost the lions dearly.
He hasn't exactly acted like an adult lately, not that professional athletes usually do, but stomping on another player is something I'd expect out of MSU.
Actually, I'm beginning to think that Schwartz is part of the problem. They've created and encouraged this sort of play out of the team and I don't think they fully know how to control it. If the team doesn't clean up a lot of this sloppy play and penalties, they need to find someone who WILL keep the players in line.
As much as Bears fans hate Green Bay, what Suh did there, more than the other incidents, badly sullied his name and reputation. Worse, he didn't seem to take ownership, or have an understanding of what is inappropriate. The sense given by Suh was that this is how he ALWAYS has played. The perspective of fans outside of Detroit now is that he is a dirty player.
The sad thing is that Suh is now under a microscope. This is of his own making.
I don't know that I would call late 80's and early 90's basketball "glamorous."
Jordan? When has it ever been more hot for the "in crowd" than then?
Layne wasn't really "hated." As for the drinking, remember that Vince Lombardi was the first coach in professional sports with a mandatory weight training program. The entire Yankee team of the 50's and 60's got hammered regularly. In this era, with alcohol scapegoated so much, and "substance abuse policies" used as a bargaining chip during negotiations,
As for Lindsay, he was one of the dirtiest players who ever played the game. When he "unretired," the NHL commissioner called it "a black day for hockey." Things were just a tad different back then.
My grandfather used to follow the Lions around the country, and he says they used to boo the hell out of him, every time he touched the ball. He said the articles about him in the papers, especially in Cleveland were always harsh.
I don't think he was hated (or even really all that well known nationally) until after he went to San Antonio, dyed the hair, and started acting like a bit of a lunatic. Also there were/are plenty of people who like Rodman either for his antics or just because they respect his play.
Rodman was hated, especially in Boston and LA
3. Dennis Rodman- You'd be hard pressed to find an basketball player more disliked.
I agree that Rodman was hated, but how hard pressed would one have to be? It seems that the OP found one with Laimbeer at #2, who was without question more hated that Rodman.
Was hated everywhere else.
Being on a rival doesn't make one universally hated.
When Rodman was a Piston, he used to exuberantly celebrate big plays by pointing into the crowd as he was running upcourt. He was widely considered a hotdog for it.
Does anyone else find the Lions somewhat hard to root for? I think its because I have grown up idolizing Michigan football, but I value class very highly in a team. With Schwartz and Suh, I have a hard time pulling for the Lions occasionally. They're my home team, so I still root for them, but it can never even approach the level of my Michigan fanhood.
I love Michigan too but not sure that has anything to do with my feelings for the Lions. I know what you're saying though about the Lions, although I don't have trouble rooting for them. My trouble is respecting them. It's almost as if it's been so long since the franchise has done anything that they have no idea how to act. I'm inclined to start with Schwartz and talk about how the Lions aren't acting any differently than he is, but I remember this kind of thing going back a long way. I wish they knew how to act in public though because this is embarassing.
Harbaugh acted like an ass. Schwartz's reaction was understandable.
But Hank Greenberg being on it seems crazy. He'd be on the Most Loved List as far as I know. A gentleman, a sportsman, and a bona fide Amrican hero who enlisted in the army in wartime at the absolute peak of his All-star baseball career.
Hank Greenberg was a fantastic man, but he caught absolute hell at stadiums. Justified? Absolutely not, but baseball fans in that era were absolutely awful.
A bunch of guys who were outlaws, and one guy who was a gentleman but was hated by prejudiced masses for his religious ethnicity.
You could put Jackie Robinson on top of the same all time sports list.
Howe was anything but peaceful early in his career. The Red Wings organization had to sit him down and persuade him that he didn't have to fight everybody on the ice due to his talent.
"Howe did not set the league on fire right away. Howe spent more time establishing his physical reputation in that time, scoring a total of only 35 goals but dropping the gloves with any and all comers. The Red Wings were able to convince him that he would be better served to stay out of the penalty box, the ambidextrous shooter scored 35 goals in 1949-50, second in the NHL to Rocket Richard's 43."
"Despite an even temperament and a real distaste for combat, there is a part of Howe that is calculatingly and primitively savage," Mark Kram wrote in Sports Illustrated in 1964. "He is a punishing artist with a hockey stick, slashing, spearing, tripping and high-sticking his way to a comparative degree of solitude on the ice."
"He's got more elbows than an octopus. If an octopus has elbows." - Frank Selke
Check out these pix of his famous '58 fight with Ranger enforcer Lou Fontinato:
The way he was portrayed off the ice, so a lot of opposing fans liked him a lot. Remember, this was well before games were televised to fans all that often.
Great info. about Howe. I never knew he was a fighter as a young player.
I know it is not for his play in Detroit but rather his play in Vancouver but Todd Bertuzzi gets booed in every arena that he plays in for the most part. This is especially true in Colorado still to this day.
I know it is for good reason he gets booed as his incident with Steve Moore was horrendous.
Was gonna mention him as well.
A lot of people around Detroit don't even really like him, still. I'm a big supporter of second chances, though, and I've grown to like him as a player. He's a tough player but seems to stay pretty quiet these days.
No mention of "McFilthy" himself, Rick Mahorn. Granted I don't know who he replaces but I think he deserves an Honorable Mention here
Love me some Rick Mahorn.
biggest thug on a team of thugs.
A reporter once asked the legendary Ty Cobb, how he'd fair against today's pitching. Cobb said "I'd hit about .290". ".290?" the reporter asked, "you hit over .400 5 times in your career!". To which Cobb replied "Fuck, I'm 77 years old now".
Surprisingly I'd never hear that. Thanks for sharing!
I know it's a long time ago, but I think you need to add Detroit Lion Alex Karras to that list. He was a bad ass and pretty much hated by the league for his tough as nails play.
He just pawn in game of life.
Can't forget Vladimir Konstantinov either. I think he was hated even more than Chris Chelios.
was that guy back in the 40's
I was reading the thread and couldn't believe no one was mentioning Vlady. Agreed 100% with Charlie, Konstantinov was hated and feared among the NHL. As a Wings fan, I naturally loved the way he played. A great career cut way too short.
tough players. Tough guys are usually hated.
He was hated by employees that got robbed of their retirement funds at the hot dog factory.
Good list. I thin Jack Morris would be an (dis)honorable mention. Not That I feel that way but he supposed yeas a prickly dude.
I guess that's kind of a superstars list, but there's not a hockey fan anywhere that likes Kirk Maltby, other than Wings fans.
Fought Bobo Brazil for 30 years and invented moves like camel clutch and fireball. Born in Lansing, Mi and died in Williamston, MI.
Me, when I played hockey in Detroit I was cool to those I played against. Once I moved to NY in '89 I was a MuthaFuc*ing headhunting goon.
I see everything through Maize & Blue lenses. And so, I would add Kirk Gibson to my list of hated Detroit sports team athletes. Anyone who likes Gibson has given a pass to Sparty.
1) Darko 2) Joey Harrington 3) Charles Rodgers 4) Charlie Batch
Ohh....you meant by other people...
You can add Juan Gone to that list.
What? How can you not like Darko? Every time he was in the game it means the Pistons were guaranteed to win!
Human victory cigar!
I liked Rodman cause he played hard. Sure the dude was a freak off the court, but on it he was a beast. It wasn't that he couldn't score like a lot of people thought, he jusst didn't have to or want to. He played hard nosed defense and was the basketball version of a ball hawk