Malamute at an apartment? Wow.
Nicely handled, BTW.
Malamute at an apartment? Wow.
Nicely handled, BTW.
Should I make a "Cool story, bro" comment or should I laugh at a Sparty fan being a dick? The only interaction I've had with any MSU fan took place with a rational MSU in this thread: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/rational-msu-fans-your-thoughts-weekend .
This doesn't quite fit with this thread, but whatever. People keep trying to downplay the MSU rivalry and say that we dont really hate them. I disagree, and here's fucking why:
1. Immature head coach. Dantonio is a grade A douche, we all know it, and I can't fathom why anyone would want to send their kid to play for him.
2. Classless. They recruit players who struggle academically, and their players are criminals.
3. The school itself. What does MSU bring to the table? Its a goddamn farming school, and is hardly the 2nd best school in the state, if that. Nobody gives a shit about your teaching school.
4. They blow ass at football. Their football team has never maintained success, and is quickly being relegated to where they belong, far below UM.
5. Their fucking fans. Do I need to say anything here?
ND can be annoying, but they are a traditionally strong school with good academics. I have respect for ND. OSU is classless, but they are at least a worthy rival. MSU has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Fuck MSU.
teaching school. Who doesn't love a hot teacher?
At least, Eastern is considered that. My wife is an Eastern graduate, pretty hot, and until kids came along, a teacher. I am not complaining at all. Keep it up, Eastern!
"pretty hot... until the kids came along..."
Hope your wife doesn't read this blog!
that his wife was a teacher until the kids came along, not that his wife was only hot until the kids came along.
When you can make a joke and/or get a random internet dude in trouble with his wife.
Well if she was a teacher I'd hope she would be able to properly read the sentence and put the "until the kids came along" part with the "a teacher" part.
Im graduating from the EMU COE in april and I will try my damndest to occupy a teaching job in the great state of Michigan by this time next year and crush the dreams of spartan teacher candidates in the process.
I thought Eastern was the teachers college.
I think State is ranked #1, which is surprising given their inability to read/write.
whether you are from the state of Michigan or not. There aren't too many Sparty fans out of state and OOS people likely didn't have classmates/ family members go to state. OSU meanwhile is good and ND is a good school, so that's why OOS guys (like myself) think they are bigger rivals.
I 100% agree with this.
My interactions with Sparty all have to do with interactions with my in-state friends' friends. I don't really know anyone directly that went to State, so I really don't have much of an opinion of them. I've hated Notre Dame since I was little because I am from Boston and gravitated towards Boston College. That hatred for Notre Dame grew once I came to Michigan. I hate Ohio State because I lived in Ohio for a couple years. Everyone around me loved Ohio State, and being an outsider, I naturally hated that. Those rivalries naturally are on a higher plane for me, just from a hatred stand point.
I have a general dislike for and disinterest in State.
During my 4 years at Michigan, the team we always struggled with was Notre Dame. I HATED the Irish. I HATED Lou Holtz. I HATED Raghib Ismail. Ohio State was up there, but I was lucky enough to matriculate during the first 4 years of the Cooper era, Michigan never lost to OSU while I was an undergrad. Michigan State was just another annoying team that put more stock into beating us than we did into beating them...and as far as I was concerned, the only way they could beat us was by cheating (tackling Desmond in the end zone...fuck).
State fans are boorish, unimaginative cretins. They are unworthy of the privilege of our out-and-out hatred. They are Iowa. They are Illinois. They are a stepping stone to our goal of winning the conference. Nothing more.
There's a couple of Sparty's in Chicago, but I'm not sure they know they are out-of-state.
3. The school itself. What does MSU bring to the table? Its a goddamn farming school, and is hardly the 2nd best school in the state, if that. Nobody gives a shit about your teaching school. 4. They blow ass at football. Their football team has never maintained success, and is quickly being relegated to where they belong, far below UM.
I don't understand. Why would either of these be a reason to hate them? Do you want MSU to be a national power in football? And why would I "hate" the fact that MSU is less prestigious academically? Doesn't that speak well of us, that other Big Ten schools can't match our reputation?
I'm just saying that the school itself doesn't have any redeeming values. OSU at least has a good football program, and I sure as hell hate them more, but MSU is a bigger POS.
While I can't stand sparty and hope we beat them in every sport every year I do have to address this crap about the university has no readeaming qualities what so ever. Sparties college of education has been ranked number one in the country for the last seventeen years. Michigan out paces state in probably every area but this. But we do need to give Sparty there do in this one area. Or at least I do since my wife got her teaching degree there and is now working on her masters from there as well.
whatsoever* is one word
outpaces* is one word
Negged for frustrating me as a literate individual.
also having* instead of has (second or third line)
and their* instead of there
I agree with all of your reasons, but I still don't hate Sparty. I don't have enough respect for them to hate them. Hating Sparty would be like hating a mosquito that you know you are going to squash, even if it bites you.
You are right in that they are like mosquitos:
1. They spread diseases without consent
2. They suck your blood and thus contain less than an ounce of your life juice, and that is enough to sustain them (even if it hardly affects you)
However, they are pests. We spray for things like them. They may have particularly bad years where the pesticides aren't enough, but we spray for them because we hate them and it keeps them at bay most years.
For me to hate MSU, I would first have to truly respect their program. No matter how they have done over the past three years, they have a long way to go before I can truly do that. I go so far as to hope that they do well, only so that we can crush their dreams. I'm not saying that I couldn't grow to hate them, but they just don't occupy that much space in my consciousness at this present time!
I don't even consider MSU as our rival. They are just inferior. Why would you call your lil bro a rival?
Not to be needlessly contrarion, but let's not point out that MSU athletes struggle academically and are criminals when prominent former players failed out (cough, Tate, cough) or were sent to jail (cough, Cissoko, cough). MSU's a second-rate football program with a jerk coach and an entitled, bratty fanbase, and that should be enough.
This is sort of a carry over from yesterdays thread. My kid's grade school teacher was a Sparty and a friends wife was helping out in class. She recorded the teacher teaching the class to say "Go Green". The next day I stopped in before class started and politely informed her that my wife and I do not teach our children to aspire to mediocrity and I would greatly appreciate it if she would refrain from doing the same.
Needless to say had a fairly poor relationship for the rest of the school year.
I Love this. Tremendous.
oh MAN, *I* don't even have the balls to do that
And this guy's got some huge balls!
Wow your a ass! Did telling this teacher she aspired to mediocrity and was teaching children to aspire to mediocrity help them in school whatsoever? I am as big a fan of Michigan as anyone but as a teacher for ten years just have to say you are the kind of parent that teachers pray they never have.
But typo's aside, how did teaching the students "Go Green" help their educational experience? If teachers don't want nightmare parents, they should probably not do stupid things.
Doing well thank you. I was going to toss up a post over the summer for amusement value, but I never had time to write it before the No OT rule returned for the season. So next offseason maybe.
The stupid federal government have her a bunch of money for "dissertation improvement" so now she can afford another whole round of research and rewriting before defending. Fuck you very much NSF, I was looking forward to becoming a dual income household. (I kid though, it was a very competitive grant and I'm proud she got it. One of the first from her department at Michigan to win this award /bragging.)
CRex, I have a similar situation as you (a single reserved space that I need to tow people from if they park in it). I've found that the best response when they find that their car is towed is to tell them that the landlord did it -- the landlord usually doesn't care, and then they won't key/slash/do anything to your car.
I once had guys at the adjacent house who had someone park there and was towed egg my car. Didn't make sense when they parked their fancy new SUV next to mine. And I wiped everything off of my car, and onto theirs.
Also my claim to fame when I was in the apartment management spot waiting for a tow truck and Aaron Shea backed his truck and broadsided it. He felt bad.
But my dad had a spot he was waiting for at the mall stolen from him by some young broad (I was still a youngling). He bought a big ol' fruitcake, and smashed it on her windshield.
Sadly it's a well known fact my shitty management company never lot checks. On the plus side their complete laziness prevents them from notice the grill, wood chip smoker, etc and writing me up for that.
That remind me why I really don't like these guys.
Though not a bad weekend. Was Yuja wearing anything scandalous? (For the classical world, at least).
I try to avoid Sparty at all costs. The walk back to the car in 2001 wasn't fun. But it didn't take that long. It just took the walk back to the dorms after they tripped Desmond to hate them. But on the more individual story side, I'm not sure which of the many games we've kicked their ass, but I was walking down the sidewalk on State when some friends from both schools were screwing around on the lawn with an MSU flag on a pole, and I said "shouldn't that be at half mass?", and some girl in green started swearing like a sailor with Aspergers, and I just say "typical Spartan co-ed", and everyone walking down the street starts laughing, and she just stands there mouth collecting flies, dumbfounded.
She's famous for dressing down so her first face involved a fairly revealing bright red dress. Second half was more of a traditional black dress. She's clearly not good in heels though and came close to stepping on the back of her dress and face planting once or twice. She doesn't have that much to reveal though.
Best part was we kept clapping and she kept coming out and doing encores, four of them. I was starting to think that unless we stopped clapping we were going to be there all night.
And I wasn't asking to be salacious...I couldn't make the show, and I know she created a stir for what she was wearing in LA a couple of months ago...
Again, Brittney Spears would be going "what, are you an Eskimo, grandma?", but for the classical world, it created a twitter.
the biggest thing i got from your story is how much i fucking love dogs. I have 2 of my own and the big guy (labrador) has defended the little girl (cockapoo...fiancees choice...lapdogs are cool) many times.
Perhaps the dogs he has defended her from were Sparty fans... Or at least their shitty owners were.
Fiancee's dog is a maltipoo. Another lapdog. But he has scared away a lab and a greyhound. Honey Badgers have nothing on this little guy.
at least they didn't spray paint "STAEE" on your car
Can't you just picture them stepping back from their handy work and reading STAE, only to hear a passing Michigan fan walking by say "hey didn't you forget the T?"
My daughter's gym teacher went to MSU. I actually really like the guy, he's great with the kids and a good gym teacher. But I have taught my daughter to talk a little trash when this weekend comes, wear her Michigan t-shirts, and just generally annoy him with her Michigan ways. Why pass up a good opportunity? She's 8, by the way, and I'm awfully proud of her.
This stuff just writes itself.
There was a guy from MSU that was playing quidditch against UM's team and was wearing an MSU grandpa shirt. I thought it was kind of funny myself, but more of a wtf funny.
My neighbor two doors down is a huge Sparty fan. When my oldest son was about 7 years old, he was selling popcorn or candy for some fundraiser. He went to my neighbor's door and happened to be wearing a UM shirt. Not only did my neighbor not buy the popcorn, she gave him shit about his UM shirt, saying "don't wear that shirt around here". That was 15 years ago. I haven't seen that woman without thinking of her comment since.
The nice thing about being from out of state and then going back to NYC after you graduate is you don't work with any MSU or OSU grads/fans and have none in your family.
If you'd like fries with that?
Hey Hey Hey ... you need to specify which SUNY schools. There are a good number of SUNY schools that are great institutions, and a few that can be considered Top 15 public institutions.
Stoney Brook and Binghamton excluded
It's spelled "Stony".
And as far as liberal arts schools go, Geneseo is considered a "public ivy", and New Paltz is quite strong. Fredonia is very good if you're going into the performing arts.
Your regional bias is pinned to the right. I've never heard of any of those places.
Yeah, not to hate on your passion, but only Binghamton and Stony Brook would be considering "big name" SUNY schools nationally. Some of the smaller SUNY's have high-ranked programs, but those first two are the major ones in my experience. That said, they are good schools, but probably on the level of the directional schools in MI, so "public Ivies."
I think you got the 1 and the 5 in the wrong order there.
don't forget about Hunter grads!!
All amounts of win with this comment - I constantly see UM fans in NYC, but the number of OSU and MSU grads I've seen could be counted on two hands.
For me, the hatred was truly born after Desmond was tripped at the end of the 1990 game. It was bad enough to have the refs blow an obvious pass interference call after Michigan made a great comeback and Moeller went for 2 to preserve Michigan's shot at a national title.
The worst part was hearing the MSU fans and their media enablers rationalize why the result of that game was just:
Whenever Sparty gets screwed by a bad call, I like to recite these same bullshit rationalizations to the Spartan faithful and watch their heads explode.
Against us the only one I can think of was the pylon against us, and they won! In addition to 90 and 01, you can throw in the "yard short 1st down" in 95.
Since I've been following Michigan (~1980), we've never won a football game against MSU thanks to a dramatic bullshit call.
They've been screwed a few times in the NCAA basketball tournament, but I'm pretty sure those pre-dated the 1990 MSU-Michigan football game (Kansas in 1986, GaTech in 1990).
It's actually more effective to parrot their excuses when Sparty didn't get obviously screwed or the situation is not as dramatic as a blown call with 7 seconds left that cost a team its #1 ranking.
That's pretty bad. The whole side of my mom's family are Ohio State fans... ugh, what a rough couple of years it has been (especially since all I can remember is losing to OSU).
to hate "retards"? I dont know but I certainly do not think of MSU as a rivalry. It is a State of Michigan rivalry but not a University of Michigan rivalry.
We dont compete for the same talant: only Se'Von Pittman picked MSU over us IIRC. He didnt have the grades for us and now is not on the MSU roster either. So that cannot be considered competition.
According to USNWR we rate higher in every single education category: yes we even rank higher in our education department. The only program that MSU ranks higher is Veterinary Sciences......because we dont have one.
According to "hot chicks on campus.com" Michigan women rate hotter than MSU. Thats right, I said it, it had to be said. Our band is ranked higher than theirs by a long shot too.
So where is the rivalry I ask??? It is fun beating down lil brother. I even had come backs during the past 3-year debacle. I was still able to defend our honor without resorting to "wait until..........".
Uncalled for. Very poor choice of words. There is no need to compare people that obviously do not suffer from serious mental diseases to those that do. Not necessary to go there, ever.
By saying they have a mental disease.
Central Ohio is we are more likely to see these Spartans
or perhaps these Spartans
or maybe these spartans
or even these Spartans
and most definintely this spartan
But very few MSU Spartans!
Sorry guys, no Sparty Hate stories from me.
My sister, a Sparty, called and texted me constantly during the 2004 game. She kept asking "What's the score" and "How's the game."
Hours later, Braylon-fest complete, I simply smiled and never called/texted her back. It's what separates us.
This year at the Notre Dame game, I had the unpleasant fortune of sitting next to the most obnoxious Sparty wearing his Sparty shirt and talking shit then entire game. Despite me telling him directly to his face "Dude, I do not want to sit here for the next 3 hours watching Michigan play Notre Dame while some fat ass, classless, obnoxious Spartan piece of shit runs his F'n mouth", he simply would not STFU. All night long I had to listen to every Denard, Hoke, RR, Brandon meme every uttered. Finally, after the catch, I simply smiled, patted him on the shoulder and said, "Drive home safely."
I had surgery on my knee my senior year. The doctor gave me a local anesthetic and wheeled me into the operating room. He starts messing around with my knee and I said, "Hey, I can feel your cold hands." He was a little surprised and said "ok, we'll knock you out with the gas. Breath deep and count back from 10." I start counting "10, 9, 8, STATE SUCKS, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. When I woke up the doctor was quite amused at my obvious hatred for all things Sparty.
Are you actually saying a Spartan fan got tickets to the ND game and spent it making fun of Michigan? I can't ever imagine paying $100 to go to a MSU game where they weren't playing Michigan, and not because their non-Michigan tickets don't break $50.
That's what I'm saying.
During his endless blathering he told me he A) played for Michigan State and B) attended Michigan Law School. To which I replied, "Bullshit, you lying sack of puke." His pudgy ass couldn't walk onto my JV squad.
This wasn't quite personal, since it was non-verbal and took place through car windows, but some may appreciate the story. It's been a long time and some of the details are murky.
During the summer before my senior year (UMich) I was visiting a friend (with some other friends) in one of Metro Detroit's upper-end suburbs. She was just a bit of a princess and had a car (5-series BMW, IIRC) to match.
We drove to a nearby theater to catch a movie. At a stoplight along Telegraph we pulled alongside some POS car with an MSU window sticker and at least one bumper sticker. (My friend's car had a window sticker and a plate holder. Aside: Haven't seen window stickers as much as in past years ...) I'm pretty sure each car could see the colors of the other.
Anyway, we eyeballed each other and the all-around chasm between the two cars was immediately apparent. The Sparty types had this "Damn, we suck!" look on their faces. Pretty funny.
Before the MSU game last season, I was tailgating at a neighbor's house with a mix of both sides. I have a lot of friends who attend MSU and we were all having a great time.
This fat, obnoxious, drunken State fan got in my face and started trying to shove me out of the house because he didn't know me. I was friends with one of the people who lived there and this guy came in off the street.
After calmly asking him to leave and trying to have his friends get control, the fat guy rushed at me. Now, I was an all-state middle linebacker who made the first round of cuts at UM (I know, cool story bro), so I didn't take this attempt kindly. I side-stepped the guy and threw him off of the porch on his fat, stubbly face.
He and his friends left after that. COME AT ME BRO
im sorry but because of your user name i pictured stephen hawkings in his wheelchair getting pushed off the porch.
Stephen Hawing* not Hawkings.
also it's pronounced nucleus, not nuculus... Sorry, i teach science, just preparing for tomorrow's atom lesson.
theoretical physicist AND a middle linebacker? Boom.
If I can do it, imagine what you can be!
Almost the exact same thing happened to a friend of mine many many moons ago - almost creepily to the last detail (although he was not a LB). Is this what they teach in their hospitality program?
when I saw small Asian girl, I was like CRex?
I have been working abroad in Colombia and the Philippines for two years since I graduated, and while I have come across successful Michigan grads everywhere I go, I have met only one MSU grad - at a sports bar in Medellin, Colombia. As we started talking, he drunkenly admitted that he couldn't find work or women in the States and was trying to find a prostitute to marry and bring back to East Lansing. I'm not saying this is indicative of all MSU grads (or Colombian women, for that matter), but I am saying...it makes you think.
If there are any other Michigan fans in Manila who want to watch the game - there will be alums at my place watching MSU getting manhandled.
that kind of depressed me
im going to msu this weekend to chill with msu cousin and party, im a hs student so this is big deal. He told me if I wore michigan gear he wouldnt talk to me or bring me to parties, dead serious. So he qualifies as a douche, i might just wear my vintage bright maize 1981 Rose Bowl sweater with a white t under to piss him off
the Sparties sporting their yellowing, quarter-century old Rose Bowl shirts.
Here's a story. Its pretty much the reason I go by "mgobleu" around here, actually.
It's 2007, after Henne hits Manningham in the 4th to smack down lil' bro. My wife and I head to Applebees for some late dinner and some drinks. Our waiter was an unwashed bro in a sparty hat. Graciously, we decide not to bring up the game unless he mentions it, which he inevitably does. I don't trust him not to spit in my food, so I just tell him, "Yeah, too bad for sparty. But it was a good game though..." He disagrees. He says that he's a student, and he thought "It sucked."
Besides this small interaction, everything is fine until my salad comes, on which I ordered ranch dressing. He drops it on the table and tells me that he took the liberty of changing my ranch to "go-bleu cheese". Now, I like bleu cheese, but not at applebees. Nor did I order it, dammit, and there is so much of the crap on it that hardly any lettuce is visible. I mean, its practically the biggest freaking pile of dressing I've ever seen. Still, I'm in a good mood, and slow to anger. Thinking this is a joke, and soon he'll bring my real salad, I just set it aside and wait for the rest of my meal, which is delivered by a different waitress. She asks what's up with my salad and if she can take the plate. I smile, tell her no, and "I'm still working on it."
Eventually, after the rest of the meal is delivered and eaten without a hitch, then sparty comes to drop off the check. He smugly asks, "Aww, you didn't like your go-bleu cheese?" I say in return in the most condescening tone I can muster, "Uh, no. But I'll tell you what. The bill comes to what, 32 bucks? I've got 2 20's. I don't really want to give you a tip, but since you're a state student, you're gonna need it a lot more than me." Then I buried the cash in the pool of dressing, flipped the plate over on the table, and patted him on the back as we left, while he stood staring at the mess.
This is wonderful, sir.
You're my hero
+10,000 to you, well played sir
Thanks. I almost felt a little bit dickish after the fact, given he was obviously a freshman. Plus my wife gave me crap because she thought I should've told the manager and gotten our meal for free, but I thought it was worth the money. I just couldn't believe he expected me to sit there and take it.
So your response was to create more work for the busboy?
I believe that was another one of those brilliant points that my wife brought up while we were driving home. I've never worked in the service industry, so unfortunately I didn't think that far ahead.
the busboy was probably a Spartan too.
Douchey and dumb.
you could have just spoken to a manager or filed a complaint due to his unprofessional behavior while tipping low. stay classy tho bro.
Yeah, but some times you've gotta have some fun, especially when it comes to Sparty.
File a complaint? How about he just solves the problem himself... Nobody likes a tattle tail and it wasn't a huge deal in the end anyway.
Up until the part where you retaliated with a very Sparty-like move. I'm sure it felt good when you did it, but it really makes you look just as douchey as your waiter, if not moreso. Had you complained to the manager, getting a free salad in teh process, and not left a tip for such douchiness by the waiter, it would be different...that's what I would have done.
Nevertheless, it is definitely a good story.
Damn, you're a huge douche. I fucking love you.
Congrats bro, you really showed him....and your wife.
"Big win here hunnay, lets go get us some of that fine-dinin applebees for dinner ::slams remnant natty light and throws out of trailer window::. Im gonna spend a whole $32 on you tonight, lucky lady"
Is this what you UM fans are?!? Cousin Eddie from National Lampoon.
If you want to act like a big shot, maybe save your $8 (lolz) and go someplace nicer than applebees (LOLZ)
Good reading here boys, entertaining as hell.
This stuff just makes me laugh. It's amazing how 99.9% of internet fans have stories to tell about horrible treatment at the hands of [insert rival school's name]. Of course, there's never, ever any embellishment in these posts.
The classic scenario:
Fan of School 1: "Hey, it's going to be a good game this weekend."
Fan of School 2: "Yeah, I'm pretty excited. How do you feel about the game?"
Fan of School 1: "I'm a little nervous, to be honest."
Fan of School 2: "Yeah, me too. See you around"
[Hours later, on the internet]
Fan of school 1: "OMG! You won't believe what a scumbag I ran into from School 2 today..."
To be a memorable asshole.
And if one has never encountered that .1%, I doubt they've been to East Lansing or Columbus.
My 3yr old's teacher is a Spartan. When she found out my wife and I are proud UofM alumni she taught our son to say "Go Green, Go White". When I relayed the story on Facebook I got a barrage of people encouraging me to have her fired.
While I refrained, I did send the kid into school the next day in head to toe Michigan gear and have since made him wear something with Michigan colors everyday.......that was 3 months ago.
I plan on sending him in with his jersey and full gear on Monday.
Joe Louis Arena, Michgan vs. Michigan State
Michigan is wearing yellow yerseys.
State Fan, loud as hell: "You guys looks like giant fucking bananas."
Me (a bit louder): "We might look like fucking bananas but you'll all be working for us in 5 years!"
The entire section in the upper deck erupted in laughter. Ah the memories...
Yeah, so typically my fiance is bearable, but today he literally whipped out the "I currently make more money than you" card. Despite the fact that I took a career hit so we could be less geographically challenged.
Stay classy, Sparty.
To call it off.
I've told this story before but it works since it's Sparty week. My dad and I went to see Eastern play Michigan State, it wasn't a particularly good game since Sparty was handing it to Eastern (as usual). Every time the Spartans scored, there was this guy who had a cheer that sounded like Al Bundy. It got annoying after a while. The best part was in the middle of the third quarter when Al Bundy says, "Hey, their colors are green and white too". Wow...it took you three quarters to realize that....
And actually...Eastern established their colors as green and white when it was formed in 1849, so I think it is the other way around, Michigan State's colors are Green and White too...:)
My favorite sparty story is the one about the 5 Michigan State grads that got killed by Craig James at SMU...
LOL - nicely done
Me: I'll have a Big Mac combo, no pickles please.
Sparty: If that completes your order, please drive around to the first window.
You left out the part where Sparty gives you the wrong change.
I live in the Bay Area. I get the occasional "Go Blue!" shouted at me when I'm walking around with an M shirt on, but never got any Sparty hate here. In fact, I never saw any Sparty fans when I lived in Pa either, but I had my hands full with OSU and PSU fans though.
I remember last year walking home after the loss. My best friend and I stopped by our friends place on the way home. Our friends there all transferred from MSU to Michigan and try to stay ambivalent towards the rivalry, although most of them favor Michigan. As such, many of their and our MSU friends came over for the tailgate and were quite excited about the win. I paused and felt incrediblely drained (LSAT was before the game). While I was talking to a couple of my friends, two MSU fans came over, a guy and a girl. They started giving us shit about the loss, and I just ignored it. It wasn't until the girl mentioned our QB sucked and that he was the reason we lost that I started paying attention. She said Cousins was so great and other bullshit. But then she asked why Denard was our QB. I was surprised at the question and didn't know what to say. I was astounded that she began hinting we lost because our QB was black. She said something else about our QB not being like theirs and not being smart, so I decided to come out and ask if she was alluding to their QB being white and our QB being black. She denied it. Trying to start up the conversation with my friends, I ignored her continued comments about MSU being better. She then began to recommence her comments about Denard as QB. She asked about why there are so many white QB's in the NFL and don't teams usually have white QB's. I curtly said that a QB can be black or white and that there are plenty of good ones of either skin color. She paused for a minute or two, but then began again with the comments. Finally she made a comment to the regard that we need to get a white QB and her friend finally had the good decency to pluck her away from the conversation before my friend and I blew our tops. Suffice to say, I stayed about another minute until the frustration that we lost to this team and this fan base pissed me off enough to leave.
Being that I live in Lansing now,I have alot of MSU friends ..I hear all kinds of shit.. But I give way more back.. Like any of your buddies,it's friendly ...But there are ignorant Sparty fans here for sure..And I hate to say it there are some ignorant Michigan fans also...Can't wait for game day..I'll be at Renos west in lansing,(the belly of the beast) holding it down...GO BLUE!!!
Negged for how you write. This is unintelligible.
Feels like a good time to repost a link to this photo. I don't know if you can count laughing at a canoe a "personal interaction" but I certainly got a kick out of this, MSU's concrete canoe entry last year.
A lot of bitterness and obsession here
Translated to Sparty-speak:
scUM got nuthin betta to do then tras talk far betta skool....
One post on the week of the game does not obsession make.
I went to MSU for law school a couple of years ago, and while there didn't get too much UM-MSU crap except during rivalry week. My wife, though, had food thrown at her while running (in a UM t-shirt, but still), guys shoot her with water guns as she walked by, and had to stand next to me as a bunch of drunk Spartan trolls yelled gay slurs toward us as we walked to dinner (now to be fair, I was wearing a UM sweatshirt).
Now, there are always going to be jerks out there, but by and large I found MSU kids to be reasonably civil outside of UM-MSU sport weeks. They are not perfect by any means, and the number of them who say "oh yeah, I got into UM/UofC/ND/Northwester/name-your-big-midwest-schools but chose MSU" far outstrip statistical reality, but as the years have gone by I've realized that most of them are just buying into the notion of a rivalry that isn't reciprocated to a level they want or expect. The UM game is the biggest week of the year for most Spartan fans; for UM, it's a big game but there are always bigger ones. And no matter how many times MSU wins in this series, that will likely never change. And as others have noted, you see UM fans around the globe; with MSU, they are more geographical provincial, typically occupying the area between Metro-Detroit and GR; they all come from the state, and so they stick around and their numbers swell as a result. That, in turn, creates a feedback loop where their peers at work, clubs, gym, groups, religious institutions, etc. are also Spartan fans, and they feed into this excitement.
Throw in a couple of random wins and a recent run of success against poor-to-average UM teams, and you have a fanbase that is unable to cope with the fact that regardless of what they do, their big rival still doesn't take them seriously. That drives them crazy, just like it drives UM fans crazy the past decade or so as OSU basically dominated the series and started talking about how beating PSU or a BCS bowl win were bigger games than the UM series (though to a lesser degree, but still). It is the lack of acknowledgment, not so much condescension but indifference, that drives Spartan fans crazy, and is probably why we see some of this jerkish behavior described above.
get food thrown at her and squirted with a water gun the day of the game?? That's incredibly dumb and douchey to do, but even more so if it was done during the week leading up to the game.
You were very fair to MSU in your post, but I disagree with you on about what drives us crazy about UofM. What drives us crazy is how (many of) you swear you don't care about us as a rival or don't take us seriously but then when this week comes around (many of) you are all about "PUTTING LIL BRO BACK IN THEIR PLACE, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE."
Besides that I guess the only reason we have to not like you is because your school is the other big school in the state of Michigan, and we like beating you and historically you have been better than us. Whodathunkit???????????
If you're wondering why the Spartan fans you encountered were idiots or so offensive towards you... it's because they're just dicks in general. You have dicks in Ann Arbor don't you?
(OP: Didn't mean to come at your directly, just my thoughts on the rivalry in general)
We do care the week of the game. It's how much you care the other 51 weeks that amazes us.
Football is not MSU's only sport. We can live just fine with international basketball recognition and a strong history of domination in hockey. No need to search for your approval that we are a quality football program. I'm happy that your arrogance has lead you to believe we need it though. I hope you continue those constant pats on your own back, and then maybe someday realize that MSU sees Wisconsin, OSU, Notredame, and Penn State as just as big or bigger games as UofM. Especially with your great winning record over the past 5 or so years. Trust me you are not our benchmark.
And I was gone by "hockey dominance".
Though good to hear MSU is now recruiting internationally.
all credibility when you claimed that MSU views other games as bigger than Michigan.
With what is a quality education from UofM you have managed to sound very uneducated as you would have the Spartan in your story seem. You failed to check your spelling, you group all MSU grads together and then (like a good bigot) objectify them all as uneducated jerks, and then you bring back some Jim Crow laws with your seperate but equal reference. I enjoy a good friendly rivalry, but I chose to keep it to sports and not personally attacking people. Grow up brother.
And unwritten rule of the Internet #5632 is don't attack spelling or grammar unless you're good at it...or you at least checked it in the post you're using to throw down the gauntlet.
And you can't respond to a post on the Internet.
.......99.99% fabrication of course, but hilarious none-the-less. I think the salad slamming while fine dining at Applebees was my favorite, lol.