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I don't think they changed Les at all actually
national champs baby
Patrick Hruby is doing God's work.
first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"
stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly
rundown of Michigan's riser
needs moar usage
so much for that
This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.
will be michigan's highest pick in a while
money has to go somewhere
I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.
the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?
Thats the smart move join the b1g but they want control. Money isn't everything. They know that they will be an equal on the big ten, they have to be the big fish.
The ACC already has the same footprint (if not a bit smaller) as the big east. The ACC would probably be happy to add Notre Dame which would give them a big name team and travel would barely change for any of ND's other sports. Plus, the cultural fit should really be considered too
The old Big East or the one that includes teams in California and Idaho?
ND. Their act has grown old.
With the ACC moving to 14 teams it will affect ND even more.
BC and Pitt are not going to be looking for tough OOC games when they play a 9 game ACC slate.
they will play MAC teams and Big East Teams. With some CUSA teams thrown in.
While ND's situation is probably most relevant to Michigan, I am also interested in what other ramifications this collaboration will have. The SEC generally plays a very weak out of conference schedule (obvious exception is LSU this year). Will the SEC feel obligated to strengthen its out of conference scheduce and make a similar collaboration with another league (maybe Big12, ACC?).
If that is the case I suspect they would choose the ACC as the Big 12 is better at footbaw.
"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great. That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer
Or they can be like Boise State by playing one or two tough games a year resulting in 10 or 11 win seasons. But unlike Boise State, they have a clear method of entry into the BCS bowls.
They have and will always can recruit so they may continue to be overrated by the media/pollsters, so it may work for them to play in BCS bowls, but not for national championships.
They will schedule 2 games against ranked opponents. Lose both and still get into the bcs because they are a 10 win ND team. Thier only trips to the bcs have resulted in blowouts.
Football is both an identity and a terminal illness. A rhythm and a chaos and an opiate for the mind all at once.
-Johnny Danbury (umichedme.blogspot.com)
that state south-east of Meechigan should be leveled and turned into a parking lot.
I would guess Michigan and USC are the two schools that if they took ND off the annual slate would make ND reconsider their independece. However, I would be shocked if USC dropped ND from their schedule. That is a big tradition game for both schools. The game has been played since 1926 and the series was only interupted during World War II. Additionally, USC has recently been unafraid of "strong" non-conference games. Michigan has taken breaks from ND before and would do it again if need be, but I highly doubt USC will do the same thing.
...it's that money talks, and historic rivalries walk.
If only Coach Mo hadn't gotten so drunk.
With USC having a depleted roster and ND not a complete pushover I think USC won't have any problem dropping them.
Yea, that depleted roster really hurt them this year when they beat ND by 2 TD's...
If so, I think that any B1G or Pac10 team that plays 9 conference games + a championship game would risk putting a strong-ish team like ND on their schedule, especially if 1/2 of those games go to NBC and not ESPN/ the conference channel.
"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt
The Fighting Figure Skaters are screwed. There is nothing they can do now other than continue to win the September Championship and Heisman Trophy. Give it another decade or so and the media will have begun to figure it out.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
Still getting use to this whole posting (and not just reading this blog) thing.
Link to ND figure skating video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgiGRmdFZ0&feature=player_embedded#!
I like Notre Dame, it's a good school in a beautiful setting.
But they are a better fit in the ACC than in our conference or the Big East. The Big 12? Out of the question based on how they see their academic prestige.
And they're already playing basketball and other sports in the East.
What happened to "Irish"?
He was a good poster and would usually provide us with some insightful Notre Dame perspective. Did he just go into hiding after getting Denarded for the second year in a row or what?
Away taking grammar lessons
The last time I responded to this exact question it caused a shit storm of epic proportions and cost me over 10,000 points.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
good guy act. He always seemed much more like a troll in disguise to me.
He'd take subtle jabs at Michigan and then wonder why people got up in arms. Hey, guy, you're on the prominent Michigan blog -- that shit won't fly.
"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."
- Jack Handey
The Big XII is cool with letting marquee programs keep thier revenue. ND wants to keep its revenue. Big XII needs more big name football programs. It's a match made in crazy college football realignment heaven.
I wrote this on the other thread...
I don't see why we have to get rid of ND...
Play 8 conference games a year.
Always play the ND home and home OPPOSITE the Pac-12 home and home.
You can still schedule a cupcake, you can still schedule a Michigan directional.
...am I missing something? How does this really change anything?
Our schedule could now look like this:
vs. Notre Dame
...8 B1G Games.
@ Notre Dame
How is that so much different from what we do now?
Basically we replace a home and home with a Pac-12 school for a 2nd game vs. a MAC team OR the SDSU game we got this year (Air Force next year, etc). You can still make a schedule with 1 MAC school, 1 Pac-12 school, 1 FCS school and ND and have 3 non-conference home games every year.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
The general consensus is that it's only a matter of time before the B1G moves to 9 conference games, that's why. With the B1G/Pac 12 challenge, that only leaves room for baby seals.
Baby seals? Why would you want to beat one of them?
If that's the case...
Open with ND EVERY single year...home and home
Play your FCS team at home every year...
Play your home and home with the Pac-12 every year...alternating with ND.
a 9 game conference schedule? So 9 conference games, 2 home cupcakes, and 1 home/ home with somebody (maybe ND some years, or someone else)?
the damn cupcakes. we need to watch our figure. but seriously, only schedule one mac school, if need be. and only schedule western, central or eastern as that mac game. with a 9 game conf schedule that leaves two other games, one against a Pac-12 school and one more. should that be against ND, sure you gotta love kicking their ass almost as much as you love kicking FOSU asses. but what to do with that 12th game? how about a round-robin set up where Michigan plays any other school from an AQ conference.
I always want to beat ND. And I like seeing their hand forced. Their arrogance and hubris in avoiding conference affiliation is long overdue for comeuppance.
However, I would be intrigued by another possibility that I didn't see listed in the thread. What if PSU left the Big 10, and ND took their spot? Frankly, it is going to take time for PSU to clean things up, if ever. Sadly, they will be diminished for some time. Like toxic waste, their problems are so huge, they won't go away in the foreseeable future. The kind of things that happened could warrant the dreaded death penalty.
And to my way of thinking, ND is a better fit geographically for the Big 10 than PSU ever was. ND is better academically. ND is a good fit culturally. With Nebraska stretching the Big 10 to the west, this change would make Ohio State the furthest east school, and Nebraska the furthest west. While losing PSU would diminish TV market reach, it would be worth it from my perspective.
The reality? I doubt this happens, unless it is clear behind the scenes that PSU is going to be drummed out, ND is given a "come to Jesus" offer, and it is made clear that if they don't fish or cut bait immediately, the Big 10 will wash their hands of ND forever and approach Missouri. And if the Big 10 Conference is fine with keeping PSU indefinitely, well, then this speculation doesn't matter anyway.
EDIT: I also agree with the above poster, that my favorite possibility would be to have ND & a Pac 10 team scheduled at home alternate years, so that there is always somewhat of a marquee game scheduled in Ann Arbor, every year.
"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi
Indiana has been "diminished" forever and they're not going anywhere. I'd rather see a diminished Penn State every year than those arrogant donkeys in South Bend.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
....about ND being clearly academically better than PSU.
I've recently interviewed some PSU EE grads that were pretty sharp and well-prepared. Whoever is running their EE program seems to have a good grasp of what is required to prepared new grads for current professional practice.
Now, I've never had the chance to speak with an ND engineering student, but based on what I've read their Engineering program is not one of the more significant programs at their institution.
"Stats are for losers. The final score is for winners." -Bill Belichick
about it. . . I agree. Whether it puts ND in a vice or not, it increases pressure on them. Personally I am happy if they are left out to dry. The B1G needs ND less this year than it did a year ago, will need them still less in the future. And as a small, private, Catholic institution with its head so far up its ass its own tonsils look like testicles to it. . . they don't fit the general profile.
The way the BCS is structured, teams are rewarded for playing soft schedules. If Notre Dame can run the table against MAC-caliber teams and a hodge-podge of UConns, Pitts, etc. they'll be in the BCS.
The name of the game is loss-avoidance.
There are certainly downsides (e.g.,TV ratings) but the success of the program would probably be enhanced.
...they lose the NBC contract, followed shortly by loss of their special BCS status. NBC is not going to drop $1M+ per game to broadcast home games against Ball St. and EMU.
You guys don't seem to get it. The BIG holds no cards of relevance towards ND. Stop playing us? Thats fine, we have other avenues to go. When we beat FSU tomorrow that will be 4 ACC teams we played this year.
Now before I get ahead of myself here I know we all can't schedule 8 home games. We all can't play East, West, Northern Michigan Polytech, UMass etc which is the power house that is your schedules.
But before you break your arm patting yourselves on the back, consider the following. ND starts to schedule MAC teams. ND starts to schedule the mid-majors. Hell I hear the Big12 will be dying for some OOC games. So now instead of playing the BIG we have 1 or 2 difficult games a year with 2 or 3 midrange games and the rest all cupcakes. 10-2 gets ND into the BCS.
So by virtue of the BIG "forcing NDs hand" you are locking yourselves out of a BCS game potentially for your own conference. And we laugh all the way to the bank.
Sorry to darken your days fellas, but ND needs you about as much as you need them. We don't need each other. So basically until Texas figures out what its long term plans are, you aren't forcing anyone into anything. In fact your joyful cackling glee is slowing being melted into sweet honey glaze that will adorn our BCS cheques.
As much as I would hate seeing the UM/ND game go away, in the end all it means to CFB is a great rivalry shelved.
can go 10-2 when I see it.
"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman
ND has been 'returning to glory' for some time now:
how about this Willingham?
decided schematic advantages...
some guy in New Mexico...
overstated resume glory...
oh, and this guy...
Schedule all the cupcakes you want, you'll still find a way to lose 4 games every year.
HOKEAMANIA RUNNIN' WILD
Crack on it all you like, but you know its true. Seems on your way to head us off at the pass, you got re-routed off a cliff. Time to update your GPS maps.
It's more likely that if your hardest games are against Toledo and Air Force that one loss will keep you out of the BCS.
What is a Notre Dame fan doing even talking about the BCS anyways?
Both times you've been there you've gotten absolutely destroyed. Maybe you guys should stick to the Hawaii Bowl.
ed: further, we're not talking about just losing Michigan on your schedule. We're talking about losing UM, MSU, Purdue, Stanford, and USC.
USC will never drop off our schedule.
While that may be true. They will play 9 conf game and Big Ten opponent, ND and one other. Somehow, I think they will seriously consider it. Nd shouldnt be worried, the way things are going all rivalries are going to be destroyed.
What you're saying now, is pretty much verbatim what ND fans were saying when their current agreement with the BCS went into effect.
How's that workin' out for ya?
You may not play Umass, or WMU or EMU but you have your equivalents like Navy, Air Force and South FL. Take Purdue, MSU and UM out of your schedule and you might find 1 or 2 FBS schools to replace them but probably not 3 and that means your record get discounted. It's not just about AP/USA rankings that gets you a BCS bid. Go ask Boise State about it.