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January 16th, 2011 at 12:04 AM
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Has Hoke spoken to any of the 2011 commits?

Why was Hoke waiting until this weekend to contact our commits, not to mention prospects?

Per TomVH tweet, Hoke was apparently planning to call our commits this weekend.  Apparently Tabb tried to reach Singletary but could not reach him.

I am warming to the Hoke hire, but cripes, Brandon really tied a hand behind Hoke's recruiting back with waiting until last wednesday to hire him, but that doesnt mean that Hoke should double down on cementing the destruction by letting these recruits flap in the wind.

Shouldnt these commits - who have been waiting to hear from Hoke have been contacted immediately? 

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:08 AM | TomVH said in a tweet that (Score:1)
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TomVH said in a tweet that Beyer was expecting a call today. 

Since Beyer was one of the more "sure thing" prospects, I'm sure he has talked to some of the more iffy ones already.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:12 AM | i read TVH tweets too and seems eerily silent* (Score:1)
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and in fact it was that Beyer tweet that got me thinking about it.   

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:16 AM | I think he waited a few days (Score:1)
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I think he waited a few days because of a desire to have his staff in place. It doesn't really make sense to call guys without being able to talk about their position coaches.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:23 AM | commits (Score:1)
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Its probably hard for him to talk to our "commits" right now considering seven of them are on visits to other schools as we speak.And Trudo<a RR target commited to Syracuse  today.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:29 AM | I'm sure he talked to some (Score:1)
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I'm sure he talked to some yesterday, when they weren't on official visits. I don't blame any of them for having a backup plan.

Also, Trudo was a Syracuse lock all the way. He never seriously considered us.

In conclusion, the sky is not falling.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:30 AM | Agree...seems to be the plan (Score:1)
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Nail down the staff this week, 2 weeks to retain the ~14 commits..

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January 16th, 2011 at 11:20 AM | thats a great point about the coaches (Score:1)
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i got a text from kellen jones' dad that hoke hadn't called as of Friday. Thought it was kind of strange that once the dead period ended he didn't call them right away, must be that the staff isn't in place.

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January 16th, 2011 at 3:55 PM | Hopefully their not all gone (Score:1)
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before he picks up the friggin phone.  If I was committed and hadn't heard from the new coach for at least 5 days since he was announced and there was three weeks left until NSD you can bet I'd be gone.  Its not like other coaches aren't calling these kids and asking them if they think Hoke really wants them since their phone hasn't rang.

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January 16th, 2011 at 4:03 PM | Unfortunately much like the firing... (Score:1)
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...of a head coach, the recruiting period also relies on the unspoken assumption of "Its better to take action than to be careful to get it right" (that's why every program fired their coach before Michigan, and all but Pittsburgh had their new head coach in place before Michigan, I can guarantee you they were also calling recruits before they had their staffs in place...because recruiting is just that important).

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:09 AM | Relax (Score:1)
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It's going to be ok. He's spoken with several of the commits (Jack Miller, Blake Countess, to name a few) and I can only assume conversations with the rest are on their way

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:14 AM | Where did you read this? (Score:1)
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Also Fisher?

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:23 AM | Rivals (Score:1)
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Rivals has a piece that says Countess talked to Hoke

'Cats comin' for y'all

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:25 AM | I saw it on Rivals. (Score:1)
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I saw it on Rivals.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:15 AM | I am not, not-relaxed about it - just seems like we would have a (Score:1)
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lot more buzz out there and a lot more urgency to contact them given the timing of everything. 

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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January 16th, 2011 at 9:01 AM | If the coaching search hasn't taught us anything (Score:1)
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You can't assume that nothing is happening just because we don't hear about it and just because we hear "something" doesn't mean its happening.  Relax, let him put his staff together.  

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January 16th, 2011 at 10:34 AM | Tennessee went throuh a very (Score:1)
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Tennessee went throuh a very similar process and timeline last year.  All the fans were complaining about being in the dark about recruiting after Dooley was on the job for a couple days.  Dooley later indicated he took about a week to evaluate non-committed prospects to be sure they are who he wanted.  It took a week or so but they closed strong in recruiting with a non-big name coaching change.

Its hard to be patient but I expect Hoke to add some big names before signing day.

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January 16th, 2011 at 4:04 PM | Yeah but Dooley was an assistant under... (Score:1)
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...NIck "Biggest Slime in College Football" Saban, so we can assume he had the advantage of knowing how to cheat...

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:10 AM | You would think (Score:1)
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That coach Hoke would have the common decency to post an update immediately after each conversation with a recruit right here on Mgoblog.  

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:11 AM | Yes, but... (Score:1)
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Hoke might not know much about these guys and has to watch films and read up on each of them. 

He has to do that, plus get to know the entire Michigan team and determine his coaching staff.

I would hope, after the dead period, that he reached out to each one briefly, but gave them a call again after he read up/watched film on each one.

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:10 AM | I won't link the story (Score:1)
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I won't link the story because it was in the freep and last time I tried to link I failed miserably, but they did a story with Lemming a couple days ago that stated Hoke would honor our 12 verbals. I doubt he said he would honor them and is still watching film to determine whether he should follow through with that promise. With the things you mentioned like filling out the coaching staff, meet and greets, PR stuff, evaluating non-committed prospects and trying to get the family settled in, his days have surely been short. Then again, maybe mick mccabe is full of it, real possibility.

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January 16th, 2011 at 2:08 AM | I don't see why he wouldn't (Score:1)
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I don't see why he wouldn't watch film on all of the commits, even if he is going to honor their commitments.  He needs to know what those players have to offer so that he can recruit the appropriate players in addition to them.  In other words, he needs to know what their skill sets are so that he doesn't spend time recruiting redundant players from the pool of non-committed players.

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:34 PM | Makes sense Clarence, Im sure (Score:1)
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Makes sense Clarence, Im sure he can find time to watch film to see how he needs to fill out the class, hadn't thought of it like that.

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January 16th, 2011 at 10:42 AM | While honoring all verbals, (Score:1)
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While honoring all verbals, Hoke would tell the kids if he doesn't think they fit into his plans (if you want to play, go somewhere else).

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:11 AM | Nah he probably doesn't give (Score:1)
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Nah he probably doesn't give a crap about recruits.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:25 AM | He's waiting to tap into the (Score:1)
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He's waiting to tap into the free agent market obviously.

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:14 AM | Good call (Score:1)
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recruiting should be the least of his worries - athletes are a dime a dozen

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:11 AM | People were also saying that (Score:1)
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People were also saying that Fred Jackson was recruiting, since he's the link between the regimes.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:21 AM | Singletary remained (Score:1)
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Singletary remained recruiting coordinator throughout the exchange, and I'm sure he called everyone to keep them updated as well. It's not like they've been completely out of contact with us since RR was fired.

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:56 AM | I doubt Singletary called (Score:1)
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I doubt Singletary called anyone b/c it would use up the one call per week (so Hoke couldn't call).

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January 16th, 2011 at 2:44 AM | I was talking about the week (Score:1)
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I was talking about the week when we were coachless.

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January 16th, 2011 at 3:06 AM | Let me clarify: he may have (Score:1)
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Let me clarify: he may have called immediately after the firing up until Sunday, but he didn't call after Sunday of the week Hoke was announced b/c he didn't want to use up the new coaches call. (Call count reset on Sunday.)

It only matters b/c the calls reset tomorrow, so if Hoke didn't call today or earlier this week they effectively lost their weekly call. There's no reason not to call a recruit every week and at least leave a message for them to call you back.   

I'm not staying Hoke didn't call this week - I'm just saying Singletary didn't call. 

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:12 AM | Hiring his staff this week? (Score:1)
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Could be that's he's calling recruits, but one would think his first priority is filling out the coaching staff first..

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:13 AM | The coaching staff should be (Score:1)
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The coaching staff should be completed before too long

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:19 AM | Hoke must be one busy man. (Score:1)
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Hoke must be one busy man. Keeping current players, building a staff, contacting recruits. Then again he has a lot of work ahead of him, football teams don't rebuild themselves. 

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:23 AM | Not to mention (Score:1)
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writing letters to the fans.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:26 AM | And interviews. All after (Score:1)
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And interviews. All after spending his first day making all of his first appearances at the press conference, basketball game. This job is not for the faint of heart. 

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:26 AM | And there's that little (Score:1)
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And there's that little business of buying a home and moving into it.

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January 16th, 2011 at 2:01 AM | I completely forgot about (Score:1)
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I completely forgot about that... I guess I was focusing on just the job aspect. But yeah that can't be too fun either.

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January 16th, 2011 at 8:51 AM | I hear RR has a place fit for (Score:1)
coldnjl
Joined: 12/31/2009
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I hear RR has a place fit for a coach in the AA area that is on the market

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:38 AM | I'd be willing to guess (Score:1)
redwhiteandMGOBLUE
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that some staffer or administrative assistant wrote that with Hoke's input/instruction on what to say.

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January 16th, 2011 at 11:45 AM | Brandon already told us it isn't about the fans (Score:1)
UMich87
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it's about the players.

Kinda like running a pizza company and saying that it isn't about the customers.  It's about the employees.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:24 AM | True.. (Score:1)
JTGoBlue
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Herding cats..

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:01 AM | We gotta get these fur-bellies to Kansas City by sunup! (Score:1)
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cat herd

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:57 AM | Fortunately he decided not to walk from San Diego (Score:1)
Michigasling
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So he should have plenty of time and energy.

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January 16th, 2011 at 2:21 AM | How much rebuilding is (Score:1)
buddha
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How much rebuilding is required? We have a pretty competitive, young team. It seems like he is inheriting a reasonable level of talent and a lot of experience, all of which his successor left. He doesn't need to rebuild anything per se; he needs to utilize the assets accordingly and ensurethat the athletes' maturation progresses accordingly.

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:19 AM | I'm going to trust Sam Webb and others who have said (Score:1)
Don
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repeatedly that Hoke is a pretty relentless recruiter. It would be out of character for Brady to all of a sudden go into do-nothing mode. If anything, I would expect him to charge out of the blocks at warp speed (mixing metaphors I know) now that he's at his Dream Job.


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January 16th, 2011 at 12:59 AM | I have a feeling he's going (Score:1)
Swazi
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I have a feeling he's going to be a fantastic recruiter at Michigan.

If you need drugs to be a good writer, you're not a good writer.

-Rod Serling

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January 16th, 2011 at 1:02 AM | Did I read somewhere.. (Score:1)
JTGoBlue
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That he had been leading for a kicker from Cali, highly rated but not committed yet?

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January 16th, 2011 at 11:16 AM | A good mixed metaphor (Score:1)
Cope
Joined: 10/07/2010
MGoPoints: 1059

Can show creativity. If it isn't ridiculous. I hope we dont have to excuse them every time now. And I think usain bolt can get off the block at warp speed, so no worries, you're in the clear.

A Journey of Father and Son
http://mysonsfirstbible.blogspot.com/2013/05/15-things-you-may-have-miss...

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January 16th, 2011 at 12:19 AM | The recruiting dead period (Score:1)
Huttybubba1
Joined: 12/26/2009
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The recruiting dead period just ended, so Friday the 14th was the first time he could contact recruits.

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