and in fact it was that Beyer tweet that got me thinking about it.
Has Hoke spoken to any of the 2011 commits?
Its probably hard for him to talk to our "commits" right now considering seven of them are on visits to other schools as we speak.And Trudo<a RR target commited to Syracuse today.
Nail down the staff this week, 2 weeks to retain the ~14 commits..
i got a text from kellen jones' dad that hoke hadn't called as of Friday. Thought it was kind of strange that once the dead period ended he didn't call them right away, must be that the staff isn't in place.
before he picks up the friggin phone. If I was committed and hadn't heard from the new coach for at least 5 days since he was announced and there was three weeks left until NSD you can bet I'd be gone. Its not like other coaches aren't calling these kids and asking them if they think Hoke really wants them since their phone hasn't rang.
...of a head coach, the recruiting period also relies on the unspoken assumption of "Its better to take action than to be careful to get it right" (that's why every program fired their coach before Michigan, and all but Pittsburgh had their new head coach in place before Michigan, I can guarantee you they were also calling recruits before they had their staffs in place...because recruiting is just that important).
It's going to be ok. He's spoken with several of the commits (Jack Miller, Blake Countess, to name a few) and I can only assume conversations with the rest are on their way
Rivals has a piece that says Countess talked to Hoke
I saw it on Rivals.
lot more buzz out there and a lot more urgency to contact them given the timing of everything.
You can't assume that nothing is happening just because we don't hear about it and just because we hear "something" doesn't mean its happening. Relax, let him put his staff together.
Tennessee went throuh a very similar process and timeline last year. All the fans were complaining about being in the dark about recruiting after Dooley was on the job for a couple days. Dooley later indicated he took about a week to evaluate non-committed prospects to be sure they are who he wanted. It took a week or so but they closed strong in recruiting with a non-big name coaching change.
Its hard to be patient but I expect Hoke to add some big names before signing day.
...NIck "Biggest Slime in College Football" Saban, so we can assume he had the advantage of knowing how to cheat...
That coach Hoke would have the common decency to post an update immediately after each conversation with a recruit right here on Mgoblog.
Hoke might not know much about these guys and has to watch films and read up on each of them.
He has to do that, plus get to know the entire Michigan team and determine his coaching staff.
I would hope, after the dead period, that he reached out to each one briefly, but gave them a call again after he read up/watched film on each one.
I won't link the story because it was in the freep and last time I tried to link I failed miserably, but they did a story with Lemming a couple days ago that stated Hoke would honor our 12 verbals. I doubt he said he would honor them and is still watching film to determine whether he should follow through with that promise. With the things you mentioned like filling out the coaching staff, meet and greets, PR stuff, evaluating non-committed prospects and trying to get the family settled in, his days have surely been short. Then again, maybe mick mccabe is full of it, real possibility.
I don't see why he wouldn't watch film on all of the commits, even if he is going to honor their commitments. He needs to know what those players have to offer so that he can recruit the appropriate players in addition to them. In other words, he needs to know what their skill sets are so that he doesn't spend time recruiting redundant players from the pool of non-committed players.
Makes sense Clarence, Im sure he can find time to watch film to see how he needs to fill out the class, hadn't thought of it like that.
While honoring all verbals, Hoke would tell the kids if he doesn't think they fit into his plans (if you want to play, go somewhere else).
Nah he probably doesn't give a crap about recruits.
He's waiting to tap into the free agent market obviously.
recruiting should be the least of his worries - athletes are a dime a dozen
People were also saying that Fred Jackson was recruiting, since he's the link between the regimes.
I doubt Singletary called anyone b/c it would use up the one call per week (so Hoke couldn't call).
Let me clarify: he may have called immediately after the firing up until Sunday, but he didn't call after Sunday of the week Hoke was announced b/c he didn't want to use up the new coaches call. (Call count reset on Sunday.)
It only matters b/c the calls reset tomorrow, so if Hoke didn't call today or earlier this week they effectively lost their weekly call. There's no reason not to call a recruit every week and at least leave a message for them to call you back.
I'm not staying Hoke didn't call this week - I'm just saying Singletary didn't call.
Could be that's he's calling recruits, but one would think his first priority is filling out the coaching staff first..
The coaching staff should be completed before too long
Hoke must be one busy man. Keeping current players, building a staff, contacting recruits. Then again he has a lot of work ahead of him, football teams don't rebuild themselves.
writing letters to the fans.
And interviews. All after spending his first day making all of his first appearances at the press conference, basketball game. This job is not for the faint of heart.
And there's that little business of buying a home and moving into it.
I completely forgot about that... I guess I was focusing on just the job aspect. But yeah that can't be too fun either.
I hear RR has a place fit for a coach in the AA area that is on the market
that some staffer or administrative assistant wrote that with Hoke's input/instruction on what to say.
it's about the players.
Kinda like running a pizza company and saying that it isn't about the customers. It's about the employees.
So he should have plenty of time and energy.
How much rebuilding is required? We have a pretty competitive, young team. It seems like he is inheriting a reasonable level of talent and a lot of experience, all of which his successor left. He doesn't need to rebuild anything per se; he needs to utilize the assets accordingly and ensurethat the athletes' maturation progresses accordingly.
repeatedly that Hoke is a pretty relentless recruiter. It would be out of character for Brady to all of a sudden go into do-nothing mode. If anything, I would expect him to charge out of the blocks at warp speed (mixing metaphors I know) now that he's at his Dream Job.
I have a feeling he's going to be a fantastic recruiter at Michigan.
That he had been leading for a kicker from Cali, highly rated but not committed yet?
Can show creativity. If it isn't ridiculous. I hope we dont have to excuse them every time now. And I think usain bolt can get off the block at warp speed, so no worries, you're in the clear.
The recruiting dead period just ended, so Friday the 14th was the first time he could contact recruits.
coaches can still call, text, fax etc within the rules,
Not saying the guy doesnt have a lot on his plate, but if recruting is the lifeblood of the program, just would have liked to hear that what we have left of this class is attempted to be kept in the fold.
It is not Hoke's job to keep you in the fold. I can't remember a time when RR or his staff commented on a recruit (perhaps the ocassional F. Jackson comparison to some Michigan Legend). I don't want a coach who spends his time appeasing impatient unrealistic fans. Take a chill pill already. You are acting like a scorned date that didn't get the gratuitous phone call the day after.
There are only so many hours in a day, and I'm sure he's getting to everything as soon as possible. Hopefully he can get the recruits as excited about Michigan as he is.
But there are more hours at night. He could be done with recruiting this weekend if we get him word about this!
I know my boy was only born 10 days ago but still no word from the Hokester.
What's his 40 time, and can he play DB?
we've already got 3 of them commited, can he play DT?
How about can he kick a FG?
Can he be our DC? He is a Michigan Man...right?
He definitely has good pad level.
It's already a young team, why not go younger? I hope you stress to your boy that our helmet's got wings.
What kind of pad level does your ten year old have?
......my daughter is on the tall side for 4 years old, and is pretty physically and mentally tough for her age. I am thinking DT maybe, but I have yet to field a call from Hoke. My son is 3 and pretty darn fast - I see it every day when we runs away from the messes he creates. Definitely wide receiver material. Come on, Hoke et alia, I have two players right here watching Nick Jr.
Of the Roundtree kind?
I thought I read somewhere that priority #1 was talking to all current players and keeping transfers to a minimum (or zero!). Next steps were to assemble a staff and call/visit recruits. I also thought the "dead period" only meant no in-home visits, but phone calls (maybe max of 1 per day?) per recruit was still legit. I'm sure he multi-tasked, but overall it sounds like it was current players first followed by recruiting.
About 14 are committed, and I though about 18 are available...
I'm with you. Hoke's first priority needed to be 'recruiting' all his current players to stay. By making the current players priority number one over bringing in 'his players' also sends a strong message to the current players that they come first.
I'd be surprised if he also hasn't made contact with all the current commits by now.
Any word on what happened with Kris Frost/Auburn meeting today?
The priority list should be:
1. Current Players
and thats how he has gone about it. Staff and Current Players get co-mingled over the first weeks but recruits/commits are a distant third. How can he recruit when he doesn't know what he has to begin with on his team, let alone looking at the player's backgrounds to see if he wants to honor their scholarship offers?
You have to be patient and accept that things don't happen in an instant
You have to be patient and accept that things don't happen in an instant
There's a certain irony in that statement coming from an ND fan (not you specifically Irish).
I expected UM fans to be more aware of what it means to have a new coach, and all the consequences of it since you know, 3 years ago, but have been disappointed more than once over the past week.
I guess it is a little sad that I am pointing it out
Irish - - - Are you liking your chances the next several years?! Do most ND fans think BK is going to have his way with Hokemania?
not really sure, ND fans have all been talking about recruiting the past few weeks with all that has been going on.
Most people I talk to like hoke and think he was a good hire but no one is really all that concerned with UM football. There is one small exception, Coach elston, ND's dline coach has strong UM ties, and there were rumors of him going to UM in the same capacity but that appears to have been pretty baseless since then.
I think most ND fans will take a look at UM after NSD and see what hoke has put together. I wouldn't expect them to be overly scared of week 2 this year, not that they were last year either.
or the year before
Well he must've missed Goudis cause word is he's on his way to Miami. So add a kicker back into our list of needed recruits.