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November 21st, 2010 at 1:16 PM | With Michigan's offense and a (Score:1)
dahblue
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With Michigan's offense and a top 30 defense, they can compete for a national title.

Top 30 defense?  I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.  With Wisc running the ball on every play, we just got WORSE on D.  We are now #112 nationally!  Our D won't get better just because the players are older.  While they're all working as hard as they possibly can, some just were never cut out to get significant minutes at Michigan.  Time will not heal this wound.

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November 23rd, 2010 at 2:17 AM | They won't get better w/age and experience? (Score:1)
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That's the same WI offense he beat his first year.

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November 21st, 2010 at 5:35 AM | Yes. (Score:1)
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Rich is staying.  (GERG may be another matter.)

M'Dog

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November 21st, 2010 at 9:06 AM | Agree ... improvement on D starts in the trench (Score:1)
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So how is the D front going to get better next year?  I see a few recruits there but more help is needed.  Any young kids coming in could play but are still a few years away from where they need to be physically.  Just not seeing how the D will make the jump he needs to makes in 2011.    Please surprise me and stop pounding on the ground we take.  Go Blue !!!

Go Blue !!!

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November 21st, 2010 at 12:25 PM | I'm sure he's decided change is necessary (Score:1)
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He's doing his due diligence, getting input, making calls, hanging around the sidelines, etc.   I'm not so sure he's decided how extensive the change is going to be and what position UM's in.  He's a sharp dude and I'm sure will make the right calls.

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November 21st, 2010 at 12:47 PM | Why be concerned about recruits should RR (Score:1)
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be fired? Based on his track record in recruiting, it would be a blessing if the recruits backed off their commitments.

But for Pat White, RR and his group would be coaching somewhere in AA-1 school. Michigan has been had and the Big Ten coaching fraternity is hoping and praying that DB retains him as coach.

Think about if DR is able to stay health. Next year he will be facing defensive scheme that have faced him before and they will reduce his effectiveness.

What wins in the BIg Ten and other elite conferences is size, speed and excellent defense. RR's model is speed, quickness and undersized player makers. He knows nothing about defense.

We are in deep trouble.

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November 21st, 2010 at 2:48 PM | this is the view of the Flat Earth Society; (Score:1)
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football has gone through endless permutations over a century-and-a-half, and some people want us stuck in amber, playing the way Walsh's Stanford teams did in the late 80s. It's not even logical; with a good D we have won all our games, and with the spread. The same people making such arguments fail to recognize how many offensive changes Bo himself went through, or the O under Mo and Lloyd. 

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November 21st, 2010 at 4:37 PM | " It's not even logical; with (Score:1)
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" It's not even logical; with a good D we have won all our games, and with the spread."

logic - we don't have a good D and we haven't won many games.  like evolution, only quality permutations should be retained.

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November 21st, 2010 at 5:44 PM | perhaps I should state more clearly: (Score:1)
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the spread is not the problem here. And a good D can be put together. So people complaining about RichRod because he runs a spread o are not logical. Period. 

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November 21st, 2010 at 6:26 PM | So lets do it already (Score:1)
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"And a good D can be put together."

It's been 3 years, what's the hold up?

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November 21st, 2010 at 6:55 PM | He's building drama and has (Score:1)
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He's building drama and has yet to get a suitable applicant to his Craigslist post for "Scapegoat".

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November 23rd, 2010 at 2:15 AM | Hold up in large part can be attributed to fact (Score:1)
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it's very difficult to put together two great units in such a short time period. For as young and ill-equipped, skill-set wise, as the offense was, he's put together a damn good one w/o the special effects of a speed back, like Hart and Hayes. The proble was two-fold, however, because on the high side he inherited 24 defensive players, barely enough for a two deep. By some counts, he only inherited 21 with a DL, great blitzing backer and cb on the way out.

You do the math and you'll probably come to a different conclusion and understand he had to spend a lot of time and recruits in repleneshing our offense, but all signs indicate the past two seasons, he's done the same with the defense.

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November 23rd, 2010 at 2:10 AM | I have but just a few questions for you. (Score:1)
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Have you ever heard of Ore? Did you hear Kelly's quote on what he looks for in a recruit? Did you know the system had been put in place prior to his arrival by Belloti?

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November 22nd, 2010 at 2:07 PM | Brandon's decision? (Score:1)
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I don't think Mr. Brandon has made a decision yet. I honestly think - from a business standpoint- that he is honestly looking at Long-Term and Short-Term goals for the 'business'. Brandon =/= Martin. Brandon also played for UM and I'm SURE he wants to see this program become elite and mesh together the Success Carr had with the National Success WVU saw under RR. I bet Brandon waits on his COMPLETE Decision until a) the regular season is over, b) can evaluate this team over the RR era- Records, Students-Athletes, Problems, NCAA investigation, etc. 

In my honest opinion and gut feeling... Brandon will meet with multiple potential replacements such as Harbaugh, Miles, and other candidates... and try and gather what they think about Michigan's Program and if they are PASSIONATE about it. I also think in the Post-Interviews with the Coaches of the Current team he will weed people out IF he decides to KEEP Rod. 

Keeping Rod probably puts us around 8-10 wins next year and possible stepping stones to be a Big Ten Power. Firing Rod probably puts us around 6-9 wins with coaching change and attrition, new system?, but which will be better LONG TERM? What is going to Make Michigan... MICHIGAN again? Where "The Game" becomes relevant. Ohio State has a GREAT leader in Tressel; as much as we all HATE them, respect that he has built a SOLID program there, and has cheated less than previous OSU coaches. Has [some] class and does what good coaches do and build a team around the athletes he has. 

I have put my Trust in Brandon, and I believe he will do what is right for the program in the Long-Term aspect. If he decides to Keep Rich, then I am going to stay a Rich Rod Supporter. Unlike Martin, I believe Brandon will make the University profitable, as well as being well recognized as THE university of Michigan, again. He may want that kind of a coach in Harbaugh that will TELL it LIKE IT is... won't sacrifice Image for a "W". I personally like that he called out the University, before it got out of hand... UM Athletes HAVE been given an easier road if they want it.... 

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November 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 PM | I feel that Coach Rodriguez (Score:1)
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I feel that Coach Rodriguez is currently safe but that can change.  A blowout loss to Ohio State and an embarrassment in the bowl game may seal his fate.

Prior to the Champs Sports Bowl in 2004, Syracuse coach Paul Pasqualoni was safe for returning the next year until SU was embarrassed on national TV and the decision was basically made on the sideline after the game.

The most important thing about Michigan football is beating those rat bastards in Columbus.  If he gets blown out again, I can't see how you can bring him back.

Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05

Space bitches, space.

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November 23rd, 2010 at 2:06 AM | Think about the Hayes committment (Score:1)
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The young man wanted to come to Michigan from day one. He opted for ND because he wasn't certain RR would still be here upon his arrival. Does his change of heart indicate he knows something the rest of us don't? There's no guarantee to the answer to that question, however...........................

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November 26th, 2010 at 11:57 PM | STAY (Score:1)
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Brandon has to keep him. Even if Harbaugh is a Michigan man, I will not have 3 more years of rebuilding. I can't take it.

Charles Woodson, down the sideline, he's gonna go all the way, TOUCHDOWN MICHIGAN!!!!!

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