I've yet to see a recruit say he hated a visit.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
I've yet to see a recruit say he hated a visit.
When they don't like a visit you typically get a "It was OK" or "I had a good time", not "It was a 9 out of 10". Unless he has some weird reverse scale. Wait...he could have some reverse scale....right??? right guys???
Maybe, but in this case everyone knows he likes Auburn a lot, they are in his top 2.
hmmm, negged for stating an actual fact.
"It was alright"
He also went on to say his mother didn't like it.
That does not sound promising
...send Dee this photo of the head Auburn cheerleader:
and send him this picture along with it.
somebody, please re-raise, I love high stakes
is the best
I gotta say the third is pretty sweet.
Don't you mean first of the four pics?
Seriously though, I agree.
......like summa that!
he was coming back up for the MSU or Iowa game?
Yea why not.....not taking an official to Bama is a slighty good sign...keep in mind that Kris Frost i think was there too...so hope for the best!
that he was there for that game, of all games... primetime, Gameday, blah blah. DEE, GET UP HERE!!! YOU WANT ALL THAT DANG EAGLE POOP ALL OVER YOUR HOME FIELD???
Come to Michigan, Dee. Our helmets have wings.
Hopefully he is just being well-mannered in complimenting his hosts for the weeknd
And Dee is a lock. My ex-roomie at UF knows Ricardo Miller(ex-teammate) very well and updates me from time to time. Dee's a Michigan shoo-in as long as RichRod's job is secure.
At 31 flavors last night?
That sounds pretty bad, especially if he is not going to make it up for MSU or Iowa now. Someone get Ricardo on this asap!
He's been to A2 a couple of times. I think maybe more than Auburn. It would be nice if he would come up again and bring some buddies.
Our shot at Dee has always been good. However after the way the Auburn game ended, and the fact they have a pretty good dual threat of their own, it's warm weather, and the women are amazing I am not longer feeling very good about our chances of landing him. Hopefully TomVH will give us an update in a few days and re-assures us that Dee is still high on us.
You think the women in Alabama are amazing?!? You have some low standards my friend.
Fact: Auburn has hot coeds.
I guess you've never heard the term "southern belle" before. The women at Auburn are smoking hot. The adults in that state... not so much.
I prefer adult women myself.
They do have a good dual threat, but they also have Dyer. He's a freshman thats not going anywhere. Unless Dee is worried about how good Shaw looked, I am not too worried about RB depth chart. The distance factor and winning perception worry me the most.
Has some work to do. The fact that he cancelled his Bama visit is actually a bad sign I think. Did he cancel any visits after our visit? Status quo was our best outcome, now that has changed... so this was a legit visit.
D Hart... We need you buddy.
I don't worry about recruiting things like this until HE says it. Sam Webb as well of course...
Can anyone say Brown Noser?
Before I panic, will wait to see what Sam's gut feels like, I hope he didnt have beans this weekend.
Edit : Chicago beat me to it.
Sam's last two gut feelings Sean Parker and Casey Prather. Parker ended up commiting to Washington and Prather took his basketball skills to Florida.
We could really have used Sean Parker.
Still, 3 and 0.
He didn't commit. That's the main thing. When the euphoria of that visit wears off, he'll realize that his heart is in Ann Arbor, not at Alabama's little brother.
I'm actually surprised at this reaction from Hart. Auburn barely squeeked by in this game. One accurate pass at the end from Clemson instead of that terrible pass and the results would've been decidedly different. Aside from the fact that Auburn had a terrible first half and didn't look very solid in general.
I don't think recruits care that much about that quality of play. They just want to take in a good atmosphere. Auburn offered that last night. Good for them. But still, it's Auburn. It's not Michigan.
Michigan's tradition might mean something to a kid from the upper midwest, but to somebody who's spent his whole life in SEC country where it's Bama/Auburn/Dawgs/Gators/etc/etc 24/7/365, the opportunity to jump up and touch the M banner may not mean a whole hell of a lot, especially given that most of Dee's high school years have been filled with media accounts of Michigan's troubles on and off the field.
You might be surprised how high-profile we are down there. A lot of kids in the South grow up following us. I guarantee there are more Michigan fans in Florida than Auburn fans.
A close friend of mine (who's an ND grad himself) went to graduate school for three years at Alabama, and his experience down there was that southern football fans didn't really give a shit about either ND or Michigan, or any northern team for that matter. It was all 'Bama, or Auburn, or some other SEC team.
As for Florida, the number of northern transplants in the Sunshine state might explain the interest in Michigan football, but in the rest of the deep south, I really doubt that's the case, as compared with southern football.
But I must say there are quite a few of us Michigan fans down here in Florida. I see at least one decal or license plate a day.
I just watched Karate Kid for the first time in years. What a great movie.
Coming from someone that has lived in the southeast for some time now I can promise you there's more Michigan fans down here than Auburn. The only people that care about Auburn are in Alabama, and even there they're outnumbered 3:1.
Yeah i believe you are correct sir. I live in ATL now, deep in the heart of SEC/ACC country. A large number of people here are Big 10 fans. I know some Wiscy, lil brother, Penn state, but mostly Ohio state and Michigan fans here in ATL. The south is very aware of the big 2 in the big 10. Auburn fans are scattered through the south but mostly in Alabama like you said. People in Alabama and anyone outside the confines of the greater ATL are strait rednecks.
That's great and all, but we are talking about the state of Florida, not Alabama. If Hart were an Alabama kid, I'd be a lot more concerned. If it comes down to Michigan and Alabama, he will pick Michigan.
Besides, if you want to talk about coaches on the hot seat, many Auburn fans were, and still are, incredulous that their school hired a guy who failed at Iowa State.
Yup... talk about failing upward!
Maybe we should have hired Debord after all...
I was going to say...two words for Dee. Gene. Chizik.
Okay, maybe three words; Gene Freaking Chizik.
How could a recruit not enjoy that visit and night game environment?
Stay strong fan base...Go Blue!
I'll be very surprised if he commits to us. I've believed for a while now that if he was going to confirm Sam's gut feeling he would have done so already, especially considering all the visits he's had here. I wouldn't discount the factor of distance in this instance should he choose Auburn.
he doesn't want to share time with or backup Dyer who is only a freshman.
Took the words out of my mouth -- they lack depth but Dyer is a stud. He'll have a big challenge trying to beat him out so his carries will be shared.
depth chart is so loaded with upper classmen then. /s
Smith and Toussaint aren't bad by any stretch, but we don't have anyone of Dyer's caliber that Hart would have to compete with.
Lattimore was actually rated higher on both Rivals and Scout last year. Dyer was #2 though and is damn good.
He might not have enjoyed the atmosphere so much if Clemson had pulled it out.
In watching Dyer, it almost looks like he has gotten too muscle bound or something. He seems almost stiff. Good back but not as shifty, fast or fluid as Dee. I don't believe Dee would be all that intimidated by the prospect of competing with Dyer.
Unless Dee told the interviewer what he wanted to hear (which I doubt) or unless that Rivals article is inaccurate (which is possible though not probable), I am concerned about Dee committing to us now. The info conveyed in that article does not bode well for us.
Ontario McCalleb, who is Auburn's starter, a fringe 5-star, and a carbon-copy of Dee Hart. They're plenty crowded.
I caught part of the game. Was that the kid who got knocked out in OT, I think right before they kicked. Also, wonder about their chances with Mike Blakely. Have no idea about his running style, but close height and weight.
Thanks Huss, I didn't realize they had a similar back waiting in the wings. That is great to hear because Dyer is not very similar - more of compact power back with some speed.
Dee has always been honest and stand up about where things stand, that much is for sure.
The fact that he did not at least publicly commit to them after that atmosphere last night says his head is on straight and he knows what he wants.
You gotta love the fact that he stuck to his guns and took the 2 most important officials he said would happen.
Whatever his choice you can only wish the kid well and hope he has a great career at the school of his choosing.
I'm just gonna hope Dee Hart is trying to mess with the Michigan fans.
If it were closer to signing day I'd suspect that as a definite possibility. In September, not so much. Hope like hell I'm wrong.
Why would he want to do that? I fully believe that he has interest in Auburn and enjoyed his visit. But when he thinks it all over, he'll pick us.
He has taken way to many unofficials up here, you dont drop that kinda money for plane tickets that many times if your not very interested and sincere about said school.
Kid is debating between the 2 schools he likes the best, I have no doubt he doesn't want to hurt either coach, but again he has been completely up front about where things stand and there is no reason to think he has played either school.
The vast majority of M fans have no idea who the hell Dee Hart is.
FWIW, before he even took the Auburn visit he said a decision will be coming very soon. The fact the title of the Rivals article says "decision looming" was already known before he even visited Auburn.
While we knew a decision was coming soon, it was mostly b/c he is graduating early and will enroll at his school of choice in January. But it has also been known that he was going to wait until after he visited Alabama and Michigan again as well. And from reading his comments in the article, a decision should be coming in the next week or two.
Auburn's best chance at landind him was last night and he didn't commit.I think after a couple days Dee Hart will have us at the top where we have been for a while.I also was rooting for clemson to win,dam did they choke! Also do you think he would go to HA HA'S Rival?
"It was amazing - a 9 out of 10. If it had been a 10, I would have committed."
Had the exact same thought before I got to this page.
Dee is just doing his due diligence. I believe he is a silent commit to Michigan, but it is dependent upon the job security of Rich Rod. If there are concerns about RR's job, he wants to know that he will go somewhere where there is a stable coaching situation.
I do not harbor any ill will toward Dee for doing what he is doing, in fact, I think it only shows his intelligence. If I were in the same situation, I would look at every program that I thought I might attend (even if Michigan was my number one choice). I still believe that in the end he will choose the Maize and Blue.
We need to just keep supporting the team and the staff we have now and good things will continue to happen. That includes recruiting.
Did he say that Auburn leads after this visit? No? Then I don't think there's been a material change and we're still in good position. Stop freaking out people.
"... and after this weekend, Auburn solidified itself atop his list with a decision coming very soon."
I don't have premium access so maybe Rival's is exaggerating to get new registrations, but "atop" seems pretty clear.
...that recruiting touts would maybe mis-state something deliberately?
Hart committing, or not committing is going to be enormous, but not just because of his personal talent. I think many of the recruits that are watching our season closely will see his commitment as a validation of our improvement and jump on the train as well.
What was Mike Hart doing in Auburn? Oh.......damn.
...but I think Dee is a warm weather guy who might not enjoy the cold damp Fall up here.
Just a feeling.
Denard, Tay, Vincent and a bunch of other kids from even further south of Orlando seem to be living it up despite the cold weather (and just to give you an idea, it was about 95 and sunny down here in Broward today). I wouldn't worry about that too much.
Michigan or Auburn? Always amazes me how random a recruit's top colleges can be. It would be one thing if the kid were from Alabama. Auburn is a semi- traditional power, I guess. Beyond that, though, Michigan and Auburn have nothing in common. It barely has a library.
I think the similarity is that both teams feature run-centric offenses that put up a lot of yards/points. Pretty enticing stuff for a RB.
Sounds like he's going to Auburn. Although, he could change his mind before signing day if we finish strong and secure RichRod.
Who's next on the board?
Would not freak out about this. People saying that they now think he won't go to Michigan because of his comments need to go back a few months and read his comments from his visits to Michigan and other schools.
He's been planning on making a decision "relatively soon" for a while a now. He's still got time even with a December graduation.
Michigan was the leader before this visit and there was no quote which said they still weren;t.
I'd be willing to bet the "9 out of 10" and "10 out of 10" comments went something like this:
Interviewer: How would you rate the visit, 1 through 10?
Hart: It was a really good visit, 9 out of 10
Interviewer: What would have made it a 10 out of 10?
Hart: Well, I would have given it a 10 out of 10 if I had commited.
Again, just speculation on my part, but that's how these things tend to go. It's no DHart saying he wanted to commit or that he's going to, he basically was stating what his scale was - he's not going to give a school a 10 out 10 unless he commited. At least that's how I read it.
Still pretty confident.
BUT IF HE DOESN'T NOT COME HERE, HE'S KINDA STUPIDZ.
Care to say that again?
no need to be a tool, and insult a kid. I want him to be in Ann Arbor as much as anyone. If he decides to go elsewhere, that's his choice. No need to name call though.
Edit: Thank You Mods
He needed a time out.
I really hope he comes here....
Well that may be, but what we're all forgetting is anyone that doesn't want to go to Michigan is gay.
edit: this was supposed to be a Family Guy reference
If only we could get 113,000 to join this facebook group. That'd be hard for any high school kid to overlook.
(No, I didn't create that group -- but I did join it.)
Yea it would, but personally I'd be freaked out. Especially if a bunch of middle aged facebook users friended me and constantly wrote on my wall that I should go to a certain college even though they dont know me.
Valid point. But, if it was 18-to-22 year-old college kids, would that freak you out?
And if it would still freak you out, then maybe we should all create facebook profiles under the Auburn network and commence with the wall posts (just kidding!)
My main thing is we got him out of there without committing, You KNOW we are always in great shape with Ricardo and the interest of Patti and HaHa. Would you expect Dee to say, " No I hated the visit, it sucked, I'm going to Michigan?" He usually says that about Michigan too and hopefully he'll pull the string vs MSU or Iowa. With Dyer at Auburn (Promising Future) I would think were in good shape. And at Alabama you can't really count on Saban being there forever. If he gets a better offer, he's going.
Is Plan B Nealy? Not saying it's over with Hart by any means but I just don't hear too many names at RB other than him or Rawls. There's still work to be done on the academic side with Rawls so hoping some other players have caught their eye.
If he goes to Auburn, then good luck. Personally, I think he is just talking up wherever he just visited for the reporter. Everything he said he loved about Auburn are the same qualities he noticed at UM. That's what kids say when they are confronted with a microphone and a reporter. I still expect him to sign at UM once it is clear that RR will be around.
I live near Hayes HS Grand Blanc abd he hasnt looked very promising.....Playing good teams? Yes, but still, any good D1 player makes high schools look like children...He fumbles A LOT! I would definitely take Hart over Hayes
I'm sure any recruit would love a close call night game. Those are the best atmospheres: think UM/PSU when Manningham caught that slant from Henne to win. The stadium was going insane! I have no doubt he's not lying about being very interested in Auburn, it's a great football school and atmosphere!
However, having said all that, I think he would be a great fit here, especially because, let's face it, we don't have a clear home run hitter in the backfield today. Shaw shows signs of greatness, but IMO lacks the consistency. Let's hope Hart lands in AA.
It's a trap!!!