Harbaugh tweaks Carroll on cheating.

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"Because if you don't, if you cheat to win, then you've already lost, according to Bo Schembechler. And Bo Schembechler is about next to the word of God as you can get in my mind. It's not the word of God, but it's close.''

 

Shit just got real in the NFC West, yo.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jim-harbaugh-seahawks-cheat-win-ve-already-lost-215021538.html

TheGhostofFerbert

June 11th, 2013 at 9:37 PM ^

Because one of the mods succumbed to peer pressure and failed to realize that I really didn't say anything particularly offensive or banworthy. I made a few juvenile jokes that have been made here a thousand times. Magnus complained, and that was enough.  Accordingly, my account of four years was deleted. BiSB even admitted that it was probably an overreaction.

Wolverine Devotee

June 11th, 2013 at 9:45 PM ^

No use complaining about it. Your account is gone and sooner or later mine will be too. It's not like it used to be here. 

You have the good and cool mods, and you have the tight ass ones that pick and choose what to see and what to turn a blind eye to. If it is something that concerns or offends them, it is negbomb or ban worthy. But if it is attacks something like, say, Catholicism which has been ever so frequent on here in the past four months, it isn't ban or negbomb worthy.

It is very entertaining to say the least. 

Owl

June 11th, 2013 at 9:58 PM ^

Hopefully it won't be counted as too presumptuous of me if I make an observation, but I would argue that you're the one that's changed, not the mods (well, technically they HAVE changed as some have retired, but I mean policy wise). For a long time you seemed to be a pretty innocuous poster who was just REALLY enthusiastic about Michigan sports. Then out of seemingly nowhere you would occasionally post offensive jokes about Mexicans, feminism, and homosexuality (I think I remember this, maybe it was someone else). I remember being really taken aback when this started, because I hadn't expected it. 

Wolverine Devotee

June 11th, 2013 at 11:55 PM ^

My idiotic rant on gays was on my twitter. Which were taken down shortly after. Someone just decided to screenshot them and post them on here for some reason. And with feminism and the illegal immigrant thing (never mentioned mexicans), I'm not P.C. at all. I speak my mind and don't hold back (another reason I idolize Ty Cobb). People can't be like that today in a world of sensitive people who get offended easily. I've said some dumb things on the internet when I go back and look after the fact. But it is the internet. Not the workplace.

triangle_M

June 12th, 2013 at 12:01 AM ^

Its important to be willing to take your lumps and move on.  In blogging and in life, a dialectic approach is much likely to be win-win than a winner takes all approach to argument.  Its easier to move forward with both sides having some concessions than with one side "owning" the other side.   This is the internet, and people like to take hard lines - most of us do it at least occasionally.  But when you become emotionally invested in the debate it loses its intellectual appeal and people just get annoyed.  Its not about this long time poster or that long time poster's opinion, its about the hot air that's making the thread a real drag.

Perkis-Size Me

June 11th, 2013 at 9:01 PM ^

My opinion of Harbaugh hasn't changed: a great football coach, undoubtedly will win a Super Bowl in the next few years, but an all-around asshole that threw his own alma mater under the bus.

Of course, waiting for after Bo passed to do so.

Eastside Maize

June 11th, 2013 at 9:04 PM ^

I love Harbaugh the Wolverine qb but he sometimes says stupid things. He looked like he was sent to bed with no supper after the Super Bowl loss this year. Classic 

 

 

 

I know I could be waiting a long time but I hope Harbaugh atones for his harsh words so we can welcome him back in the fold.

Owl

June 11th, 2013 at 9:42 PM ^

The things Harbaugh complained about do happen at Michigan. At least, if the athletes I know are to be trusted. And I'm talking about for certain non revenue sports/ athletes.

Owl

June 11th, 2013 at 9:47 PM ^

I tried to edit my comment before you posted, didn't get it in on time. I didn't finish my post before I hit save. Basically, I'm asking (as an out of state student, so as someone who didn't get to witness the fallout first hand when he first made his comments) why what he said was such a terrible thing. 

TheGhostofFerbert

June 11th, 2013 at 9:53 PM ^

My bad.  Anyways, I think the reason why people have such animosity is that even if what Harbaugh said was true, there is no reason to target your alma mater like that in a public forum.  When Harbaugh was here, people liked him.  He was the leader of the team.  To hear him disparage the Univeristy years later, seemingly out of nowhere, is just self-serving and completely unnecessary.  The fact that it came quickly after Bo died also made it seem extremely cowardly.  Furthermore, he's proved to be an asshole at pretty much every coaching stop along the way.

lexus larry

June 11th, 2013 at 11:50 PM ^

Not aimed at you, PFP...Stanford essentially did the same thing academically for their football players (as does ND) to offer, and the players enthusiastically enroll in, courses that are titled "Kinesiology" here, BGS or some such at ND and Stanford.  My thoughts back in the uber-successful days of football for The Cardinal was that it seemed the tatted/mohawked football players didn't seem to share much in the way of culture or background with the student population in general.  That thought still holds...

Sten Carlson

June 11th, 2013 at 10:58 PM ^

PC is like the big hedge fund guys on Wall Street -- they all act so smug like their success is due to them just being smarter than everyone else. In the end though, they're almost all exposed as nothing but cheats -- yes I'm looking at you Cohen! -- whose inferiority complexes run so deep that they're terrified to play on a level field. They look at Bo's profound comments as the uttering of a loser, never realizing that once you sell your integrity all your accomplishments are worthless. On an aside, but somewhat relevant, after the Tat scandal at Ohio was exposed I found a new respect for Coach Carr, after much had been lost due to the state the program had deteriorated to on his watch. He had to have known what was going on in Columbus, if not explicitly, at least he'd heard rumors. Yet, he refused to stoop to that level to win when it would have been very easy to do so.

Ben from SF

June 11th, 2013 at 11:35 PM ^

The ranking is based on my own personal opinion, which is definitely debatable.  Controversial = Everyone has an opinion about this person, half of them positive, half of them negative.

1. Rich Rodriguez

2. Jim Harbaugh

3. Chris Webber

4. Dave Brandon

5. Al Borges

Jimbo is working his ass off to take over the #1 spot.

sambora114

June 12th, 2013 at 9:30 AM ^

College sports are better when alternatives to the football factories or 1 and done basketball programs exist. 

I am a Michigan man ride-or-die but I love seeing similar Academically focused schools succeed in athletics. 

My litmus test is that if you take away football or basketball from Virginia or Berkeley or Duke or Umich, that school would still be an excellent place to study. 

Harbaugh ran his mouth to serve Harbaugh's interests, no different than any other hyper-competitive hot head I know. Got love for his spirit