F-ck it. I'm going home.
Harbaugh reaction/Late afternoon Overflow Thread
like this are still funny in this dark vegetable land.
"What's unique about Pahokee is you can hunt, you can fish, and you can get vegetables"
- Rickey Jackson, Hall of Fame acceptance speech
Is that a quote from David Brandon?
He's been in my office, under my desk, using his "pimp hand" on me all afternoon. He made me not tell because, you know, he keeps what he's up to very quiet and makes it seem like he's got it all under control.
You know, that would probably go over a lot better with fans than what ever it was that he actually did.
I am interested in knowing what Brian's realistic expectations are for this coaching search. Outside of his hate for Hoke what realistic options would he be optimally happy at this point with?
T or F
When I look ahead to the future, I expect I will be happier than I am now.
Don't worry, I heard the "PIMP HAND" makes up for the 2 month block of recruiting he just killed with the process.
I heard there was a Michigan plane flying towards the Golden Gate bridge. Is this true?
Hey, waiter, these are just uncooked squares of Domino's pizza?!?!
Is there a way I can get on the next flight heading into the Golden Gate Bridge?
Pimp hand my ass.
"I think the PC school that Michigan is does all it can to make things hard on a coach."
With all respect, WTF do you mean by that? Do you think RichRod was done in by hippies at the School of Natural Resources?
Au contraire, I'd guess that most of the the mouth-breathing Michigan Men (who may overlap with the Hokey Poke crew) are probably non-PC.
when Bo was hired. Didn't seem to cause him any problems.
exactly what he means by the PC bullshit that goes on at UM. Don't play dumb on this one.
don't be dumb then. What does the 'PC' aspect of the U have to do with making it hard for the coach? It was rich, old alumnae and Carr loyalists, along with the Detroit Jihadist "Journalists" that made it hard for RR, not liberals....
Andrew Shirvell, is that you? didn't they take away your computer or something?
I don't "cow tow" to everything UM does, means I'm Shirvell? Get a life. Instead of the neg button, I need a punch in the throat button. I'm done with you.
the intelligent 'punch in the throat' response, well done, thanks for coming internet tough guy
....and who said anything about having you 'cow tow' to anything.....defensive much? and for the record, smart guy...it is kowtow if you are referring to the Chinese custom of kneeling to show respect...so, yeah, that fits well, excellent vocabulary you have there.
..and correct me if I am wrong, but weren't you referring to the effete, classist and elitist, upper-middle class segment of the M fan base that reacted reprehensibly to RR from the day he set foot on campus. His accent and his wife's wardrobe immediately disqualified him. In my opinion, their deplorable behavior says a lot about them and it makes me glad I live in San Francisco where we have a whole different set of effete, classist and elitist upper-middle class people.
That is different from PC, or politically correct, which would be a label applied to the more extreme liberal sorts of causes that can perhaps seem a bit over the top.
If you are going to harsh on a group of peopler and label them, at least get your labels right. i don't think 'politically correct' has anything to do with RR and his tenure.
No, he meant PC, politically correct, I think. Think MSC and her antics .... need I say more?
Hmm, must be a lot different in San Fran than SoCal. People are complete morons down here.
What does MS and her 'antics' (whatever the hell you mean by that, I think she is pretty much beyond reproach in running the U, if you are trying to impugn her rep there, you are on shaky ground) have to do with RR and his coaching tenure?
Please connect the RR fiasco and politically correct...
think MSC and the U of M's outlook, in general (being overly PC), disqualifies certain head football coaches from consideration, I don't know what to tell you man.
Has nothing to do with RR, not sure what you're getting at. Maybe you misread the original post.
What other coaches does this 'overly PC' outlook disqualify? If it should be so easy for me to see, you should have lots of examples. One?
If you think Harbaugh was disqualified by MSC and her 'politicaly correct antics,' then you see the world through a very strange filter my friend. Harbaugh summarily turned down any advance or offer from M because he doesn't want to gamble his career on a half-rebuilt team that he would need to start over in terms of rebuilding. Plain and simple. If you have any shred of evidence to the contrary I am all ears..link please.
RR was a coach at UM, the quote we are discussing is, 'I think the PC school that Michigan is does all it can to make things hard on a coach,' thusly it would stand that this political correctness to which you refer would have made things difficult for him. So...do tell....how?
More PC than Stanford?! It has a *tree* for a mascot.
I can understand how someone might think that given the current situation Harbaugh was probably smart to avoid Michigan, but I have a hard time seeing how working for the crazies at the Niners is the best move. I'm sure Jim knows plenty I don't know, but it just seems strange. If it were me, I'd stay at Stanford long before I got wrapped up with that jacked up organization.
although I guess up-rooting your family factors into that, especially if you just had a baby.
Have to agree, having a newborn must have played a factor in not wanting to move out of the Bay Area. I'm very disappointed that Harbaugh is not coming back to Ann Arbor, but if this was a factor (which I'm sure it was), I can surely respect that.
I'm not going to remember much from this weekend from all the drinking
Word. I go back to school. Liver will be busier than Dave Brandon.
Is there any merit to this? Has there been any credible sources on his interest or contact? I think he would be great, but it is not worth discussing unless we know he is at least looking at getting back into coaching. Anyone?
I think his name gets thrown around because he would be a big name hire. I dare to dream.
Someone posted on here that a credible source told him Gruden is looking for a house in Ann Arbor area.
How many times have we heard that (insert coach here) was seen shopping for a house in Ann Arbor? There's no way that would even happen until after everything is official.
I know, i've heard this about a few coaches over the last few days, I'm just explaining what I've seen on the board. Don't shoot the messenger.
I’ve seen crazy rumors like Bill Belichick is looking for a house in Ann Arbor. Message board rumors are not to be trusted.
It was rumors like these that caused Madison Square Garden's Stock to rise 15% (or something like that) the day before LeBron announced his talents were going to South Beach.
I actually heard multiple people say Leach on a thread this week. This should end that:
I haven't seen any credible sources for this. When Jon Gruden is mentioned it's usually Bleacher Report, which gives wikipedia a good name.
The most interesting thing I have seen is that the flight to Arizona could be for Jon Gruden instead of Harbaugh. Supposedly, he is covering the National Championship game for ESPN Radio. Seems far-fetched but so does everything else...
Hoke is a many dreaded thing.
But I mentally +1 you for clever conciseness
HIRE HOKE NOW! WE ALL KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, JUST DO IT AND GET ON WITH RECRUITING!
He has to run out of the tunnel each game wearing a Hokeamania t-shirt only to rip the shirt in half right before kickoff and coach the rest of the game topless.
If he does that, I will support the hire unconditionally.
Propose he create his own finishing move, the Hokeslam, where after a victory, instead of a postgame handshake he chokeslams the opposing coach (including JoePa), takes out a can of maize spray paint, and paints a big Block M on the opposing coach's torso.
as assistant coaches. They can "tag in" and help Brady take care of business when needed.
Big poppa pump is the hook up
Saw him about 10 years ago at State and Hoover prior to a game. Always thought it would be funny if they introduced a third Steiner brother, Rudolf, played by none other than your avatar, the Genius, aka Leaning Lanny Poffo.
And he has to sing - I am a real American. Fight for the rights of every man........
I don't want Hoke, but your post does have a certain appeal.
1. YES!!! If we are going to end up with Hoke, do it NOW and get this man on the recruiting trail, where he is rumored by Tom Brady to be pretty damn good.
2. He is a hansome man.
GTFO...and talk to the hand....
I agree with UMxWolverines that DB should just go ahead and hire Hoke now and get on with life. Hoke evidently bleeds maze n blue and really wants to coach Michgan football when there appears to be alot of popular coaches that don't want anything to do with the program.
At least Hoke will bring enthusiasm, dedication and put his all into making Michigan a great program again. I can't see how he won't be good for Michigan? I say give him a chance! One can't be a great football coach without getting the chance to prove themselves, just like someone at work that wants to advance their position.
The Harbough boat has sunk and besides, why go after a guy and offer him the world to coach at Michigan when he evidently has no desire to do so. Even if DB would have made a better offer than anyone else, we would end up with a great coach, but not fully dedicated to Michigan, and most likely always thinking about someplace else in the future.
I think Hoke is respected by his present and former players, assistant coaches, admin and student bodies, so where is the downside to hire a guy that has turned two programs around? He didn't just get off the turnip wagon to do this.
Just my thoughts on the whole coaching fiasco. By the way, I think RR had to go. I was for giving him another year until the PS game and ever since, and the bowl game was absolutely disgusting to watch.
Thanks for providing a place for me to post my two cents on the subject.
Who cares at this point... did you guys hear.... The Mathlete is having triplets!! Wow! What are the odds... (literally, what are they?)
Nice Shootin Tex
In case you're reading this, The Mathlete, CONGRATULATIONS!
Since we can't post in his diary entry... Congrats Mathlete! Awesome news! You're going to be a very busy, very tired man, shortly...
Congrats Mathlete, if you're reading - thanks for all the great content this season.
If he was evaluated using the same criteria he evaluated RR he would be looking for a new job right now.
Rodriguez, fair or unfair, got three years. Let's give Brandon at least three days to find his replacement.
I was thinking the same thing. I want to know the outcome as badly as anybody, but whoa.
if rich rod got to keep his job after the horror than dave definitely gets to keep his after this although 3 years down the line if he hasn't greatly improved the defense and consistently beaten OSU, MSU and ND it could be a different story
You do realize RichRod wasn't the coach when The Horror happened, right?
Thats the second person to fuck that up that I've seen just this week...
Unless he was thinking of Toledo. Different F-up altogether.
now that he is gone, everything is officialy RR's fault
You realize Rich Rod wasn't the coach when we lost to App State ("The Horror") right?
The Horror? Surely you mean...nevermind. I don't even want to get into it.
Echo. Hopefully the dude realizes that Rich was NOT our coach during The Horror.
WTF are you talking about?
Your unfounded comment makes absolutely no sense. I understand you're reasonably new so I'll just say this: try harder next time. Harbaugh went where he wanted to go and this in no way reflects badly on our AD. What would you rather he do? Have DB kidnap and torture him until he signs a contract? Get real.
If we as a fan base keep acting like we would do a better job than our coaches and AD's, criticize them for no reason and attack them incessantly in hate threads, we're no better than the media and are promoting a negative atmosphere for the program we supposedly love. This cloud of negativity has proven counterproductive. Fans should either get on board or stay the hell out of the way.
Those guys need to smoke what your avatar's been smoking. Oh, man, i have no idea what's going on right now.
That's the melody to funkytown!
How hot do you like your Chang sauce?
I agree about fans being supportive of coaches and the athletic department.
But...people have said that JH was very interested in the Michigan job in December before he became the hottest coaching candidate. Basically they are saying that if we fired RR after the OSU game then JH would be our coach right now. That is why people are blaming DB.
I don't agree necessarily, but I do think his time line ended up biting him in the butt.
He should have worked this out after OSU
Just poor execution.
Just need an analogy relating to liking the effort or the guys playing hard...
or many pro fans in general really give a shit who their coach is? I mean yeah... I guess they do. But it still doesn't make it right.
Sorry. Had to put it here too. NSFWoH. Unless you're wearing headphones...
Amazing. A YouTube video that describes my innermost masculine feelings in under three minutes.
Is it true we can't even make an announcement until Wednesday? If so, why are we freaking out on not hearing anything?
(don't answer that second part. I already know the answer as to why we are freaking out)
The job opening has to be posted for a week, however there is a method to file for an exception. IIRC
Eff, Eff, Eff, Eff, Eff.
I have been mentally preparing myself for this news for five days, and still. eFFFFFFFFF.
New sign in my office: "I punch Niners fans on sight." Overreaction?
I developed a healthy hatred for the 49ers over this past season. As of today, I am officially rooting for that FUCKING franchise to crumble and fall into the FUCKING sea.
but are we allowed to be officially concerned about Dave Brandon's handling of this whole affair?
If you are first getting concerned now, than you are a more trusting and less excitable sort than me. I have been concerned since 1 minute after the OSU debacle.
That's my thinking as well. I would have been fine if RR stayed or went but make the friggin' decision a month ago so that we have some form of coaching staff on January 7th, as opposed to being 2 days removed from firing one with most people's first choice replacement staying in SF.
It could work out but if it doesn't, a lot of people will point to Brandon's delay as being one of the reasons.
I was concerned when I realized RR was coming back for a third season. Season two showed me all I needed to know. I had been assuming since this year's Penn St. game that Brandon was working the back channels lining up his next coach..... boy was I wrong.
Yes, we are allowed. But hold all the fire and brimstone until this whole thing plays out. He may end up looking awesome.
A positive result should not excuse the poor planning and execution, his handling of this situation has been a debacle. This idea that he knows what he is doing solely because he was the CEO of two companies is silly. Sometimes in life skill sets do not translate between industries like we would hope and in this particular instance, I.e. the handling of a coaching change, there may not have been a scenario in his other career that prepared DB for this challenge.
times a lot.
I would also add that an ability to sound like you know what you're doing when talking in front of a microphone does not equal actually knowing what you're doing.
I like Brandon, and I know there are still a lot of possible outcomes, a few of which might not spell doom... but I have not been more depressed about the program, ever.
The horror was a fluke, right...
The process is stressful, but that is just because a day feels like an eternity on the internet when you don't have a head coach. If he gets the right guy I'll be happy no matter the process.
condemnation....no, at least not yet.
If he doesn't want to be here, fine, go to the NFL. He is entitled.
I know that this is unpopular, but I would be fine with Hoke. Great recruiter, knows defense, ties to Michigan and the midwest, loves Michigan, would probably bring in guys like Loeffler and Campbell, has turned around two completely shitty programs, probably has developed west coast ties.
Sign me up.
Wow.. I click on this thread it had 3 replies. By the time I read and post, it has over twenty..
Does this make Rich Rod more of a "Michigan Man" than Harbaugh? He actually wanted to be our coach.
Preach it, brother or sister!
I think you win the day with your recent posts. You are an outstanding new-ish member of the MGoCommunity.
This post made me picture Rich Rod chuckling to himself in a UConn sweatsuit while sitting on a $2.5mm pile of cash.
Thank you for saying this. My favorite post in a week.
RR wanted to be here so much he broke down crying at the freeking bust. He really embraced Michigan.
JH, who everyone said "bleeds Michigan" and "dreams about being here" had a chance. If reports are to be believed, we offered him more or if not almost exactly as much as the 49ers. His team is in a bad place now - we needed someone to come in and right the ship, and he knew he could be that guy. Instead, he turned his back on us, taking the same money for thr 49ers.
I don't begrudge the guy for wanting to stay in the Bay Area - family considerations exist. But, if those were the only considerations, why was he interviewing for Miami?
RR = Michigan Man
JH = former great M player, alum
RR = Michigan Man
JH = former great M player, alum
RR = Great humitarian (e.g. Brock Mealer)
JH = Highly critical of UM athletics/academics
20,000 MGoPoints right now.
This is exactly right. As Bo used the term, "Michigan Man" meant someone who wanted to be at Michigan and was committed to the school, not someone who was looking around at / had committed to coach another school. So frustrated at how this term has been twisted and warped.
but seriously, Harbaugh would have to be crazy to come to UM right now. He is the most sought after coach in any league right now, why would he roll some huge dice in coming to Michigan to take over a team in transition and start over, the results of which could very likely make him NOT the most sought after coach very quickly.
FTR - I am ecstatic he is not coming here and yes, it DOES make RR more of a Michigan Man, whatever the hell that means anyway.
sealed and delivered to the NFL, I guess that leaves Rich Rodriguez as the most sought after unattached coach in college football.
Here we go.
FWIW I'm not rooting for the 49'ers, not that i really did before. This birthday sucks.
Cosign. My bday was yesterday, and I turned 30. It was a shitty day, even without the whole "turning 30" part of it. Fuck. Fuck. fuck. fuck. Come on, DB.
And cosign the stuff about how much RR wanted to be here. This all makes me a sad panda.
I prefer going through a desert on a horse with no name. Didn't you know it feels good to be out of the rain?
And no one there for to give you no pain.
but eventually "the horse runs free because the desert had turned to sea."
I shamefully admit this song is on my iPod.
Commence imaginary negbang.
Afghani vein candy makes the coaching search all warm and fuzzy.
He didn't have to come here- it's just that by going about it the way he did, he hurt our chances of recovery at such a critical time that the ripple effect could be felt long into the future.
If he cared about UM the way he acted like he did, he would have seen more to this situation than his own options. This could kill us for a long time.
I'm not even suggesting he didn't earnestly consider us- but he should have made it his priority to publicly accept or decline UM before he did anything else.
That way we could have moved on immediately. Now we're behind the 8 ball and our remaining options are at best, uninspiring.
I get what you're saying, but the guy does have to look out for what's best for him. Having UM out there gave him a lot of negotiating power. I would be more critical of Brandon for letting this whole situation degrade into what it is now. But it's not over yet, and we still might come out looking good.
I can only hold it against him if it comes out that he was "officially" approached about the job and said "yes, I'll take the job if it's open." If he was asked "we're thinking about making a move, would you be interested if we do fire Rodriguez?" And he said anything along the lines that he would like to consider NFL openings, then it is on Brandon and not Harbaugh.
My rational half is struggling with my hey-look-a-cliff-jumping-is-fun half: Harbaugh probably wanted the challenge of the NFL, for which you can't blame him because there're only 32 of those jobs, they don't all come open every year, and he's at the peak of his drawing power. So good for him. On the other hand, is there really even a good reason to like him right now? First the academics quote and then the Heisman treatment in our darkest hour of need - that is not acting like a Michigan Man, regardless of which coach he happened to once play for.
I also think Brandon would have been roasted if there was any noise about Michigan going after candidates before Harbaugh was off the table (the dream for many was just too strong). Now I think we'll start to hear more and things should move pretty quickly, assuming DB actually has a plan.
Let's not forget Rich was fired two days ago. If Brandon just had to wait this long for people to realize Harbaugh wasn't a viable option, he probably did himself a favor.
There is only one Michigan coaching job, and up until recently, it was something more like a life-time appointment than a coach job. I understand his decision, but I've lost respect for Harbaugh as a result of it. Had he let Michigan know earlier that would go to the NFL, this process could have been different.
Domino's Pizza is the current ad splashed all over this site for me.
And by hilarious I mean terrible. I wonder if all the people clucking about Harbaugh for the last 2 months would have given such impassionated pleas for RR's head had "the worst case scenario" come to pass. Which is pretty much what we have now. I am guessing no.
So here we are, all prospects with the exception of Patterson are off the table. My guess it would take something extrodinary to pull him away from TCU. People are laughably mentioning Gruden (are you f'ing kidding me?) as a possibility. This whole thing is going to end with Hoke being the coach and a divided fan base once AGAIN, and a guy being assaulted before he ever sets foot on campus. Massive attrition and it's all back to square one.
We are Notre Dame.
"So here we are, all prospects with the exception of Patterson are off the table. My guess it would take something extrodinary to pull him away from TCU."
Extraordinary huh? Does he know that our helmets have wings...?
Les Miles has had a horseshoe planted firmly up his ass for 3 years and given our current luck, my guess is that will change once he gets here.
This coaching search is not hard. Send a moving van to Patterson's house and present him with a blank check. Coaching search over!
"... recruit and build bigger linemen on both sides of the ball ..."
What's wrong with:
* Taylor Lewan
* Van Bergen
What's the matter? Are they too small? Is that it? Or, are they not tough enough? Or, are they just not, somehow, Michigan Men? Please be vague.
Lewan will grow into a decent lineman. But you're right. They're too small.
Read the 3rd multi-sentenced paragraph here. Huge misconception
facts bad, perception good
TCU's defense is widely regarded as pretty damn small, and also very damn good. They just did a fine job stopping Wisconsin's monster o-line.
Time to get your thumb out of your arse and find us a qualified coach. That or take your sorry arse back to selling pizza's
I'll bet that if the truth be known there was some kind of agreement between Brandon and Harbaugh that Harbaugh backed out of when Harbaugh got so hot and the SF job opened up.
I have no proof of this, but considering how this has played out it seems to make sense.
for Michigan. Now they have to compete with Stanford for a coach. They have Luck and a big physical team on both sides of the ball. We have Ninjas.
Hoke apparently will be the next coach. Here in San Diego the word is Michigan will be declined by others and then turn to Hoke because they know he wants the job badly.
Never doubt the power of ninjas...
Seriously. After leaving him flapping in the breeze for so long, how do you now make him an offer when he knows he's nowhere near the 1st choice.
I'd be rather offended myself.
I don't think Hoke would care but you better believe that the fanbase would know he was always the fallback. If Brandon wants someone to unite the fanbase, the guy we had to settle for because we couldn't get someone better is not going to do it.
assume that DB wanted Harbaugh, contacted Harbaugh, and was turned down by Harbaugh. At this point, there is no solid proof that any of these things happened. As far as I can tell, Brandon has either contacted various candidates in a fairly simultaneous manner, or has, perhaps until today, contacted no one.
Either way, Hoke should not be offended.
Wake me up when it's over.
Yeah, that Mike Martin guy is a ninja. Undersized!
300 pounds? Pfft, we need 320!!! Why aren't they eating more pizza?!? RABBLE RABBLE!!!
Has Harbaughs whole dog and poney show been all about driving his price up with San Fran where its been rumored hes been going since Singletary was fired
Get ready, like it or not...
don't know if this has been posted yet, but check out http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/brady-hoke-not-jim-harbau...
Hoke doesn’t rebuild programs by himself. He has the best strength coach in college football, Aaron Wellman.
Over the course of five years, Wellman took two fat offensive tackles (Robert Brewster and Andre Ramsey), an undersized center (Dan Gerberry) and a razor-thin tight end (Darius Hill) and sculpted them into all-conference players and NFL prospects.
Brewster, Ramsey, Gerberry and Hill formed the foundation of Ball State’s 2008 team and then landed on NFL rosters in 2009.
I'm a little girl for Aaron Wellman!
Can we please discard the idea that S&C coaches are especially crucial? Barwis is outstanding at what he does, and the linebackers still can't get off blocks.
Barwis. Wellman. Whoever. It won't matter if the head coach can't do his job right.
can we please discard the idea that sarcasm is an especially good response to posts that provide some information and ask questions in light of it?
I am not convinced that Hoke will be the savior for Michigan. DB should offer Patterson $5MM per year already and introduce him this weekend!
He would still run a spreadish offense and a 4-2-5 wouldn't require a huge change in personnel. The man is a proven winner and just won the rose bowl over a very tough Wisconsin team.
Wait, this actually works out perfectly! Harbaugh goes to the NFL to try it out. Average career of a NFL head coach? Like 3 seasons. 4 if he gets lucky. But in all likelihood he will be back begging for a college job again soon. Hoke or anyone else that we hire doesn't look like The One at this point, so we shouldn't have too much trouble getting rid of them when Harbaugh comes available again. The prodigal son finally comes home, asks forgiveness for spurning us last time, the team wins, everybody drinks and is merry. Sound good?
so our long-term plan is to be competitive by 2016?? I think everyone will be drinking long before then..
If we don't get some offensive continuity, it will be perfect timing for firing the next coach in 3 years because they didn't win quick enough! Brandon does have a plan!
We'll never know. I've just ordered a thousand Korans from Amazon and commenced building a flamethrower. I'm taking the world down with me.
He's out of the club now as far as I'm concerned. Go to hell JH.
I agree, I'd say very high probability that one of those two guys is announced as head coach over the weekend.
Other than Miles being a sleeze and Hoke being not a good coach. The "Michigan Man" meme is absurd and shouldn't (but will) be the basis of a hire
Completely agree, and if it turns out after the fact we hired Miles or Hoke because they'd been at Michigan before, I'll be pissed. If I had to make 10 choices at the college level at both a head coach and coordinator level, only Miles would be in that list and he'd be pretty low on it.
They might work, but Michigan experience should not (but like you said probably will) be a requirement.
Dammit, this is a time for passionate, possibly inflammatory, conjecture, and overreaction, not for reasoned, and factually supported, analysis
I'll believe Miles is in play when it happens. There are still plenty of people who absolutely do not want Les. Influential people.
Maybe DB can coach for awhile. Isn't that what happened at Nebraska?
I wish some wannabe journalist kid asked him that during the last press conference, "Mr. Brandon, when will you be announcing yourself as head football coach?"
Keeping the straight face is critical, but I'm sure our kid journalist could hold it together.
It's not that complicated. . .even if you wanted to stick to Brandon's stupid plan to wait until after the bowl game. Once Miss St finished beating Michigan's ass, you call Jimmy Harbaugh and say 'yes or no.' He says 'no,' you look around and see nothing else, so you keep RichRod one more year, you win 8 games and give up another 450 points, and all the while you quietly lay the groundwork to bring in Urban *Legend* Meyer. . .simple as that.
You just signed up to post that? Tell me that the little kid in your avatar is your son and I won't be annoyed (in case you care that I'm annoyed by your post).
It's funny; Stanford is my dream job for Brady Hoke!
Because tolerating a year of bad head coaching is ok when your sure that Mr. Super Hot Savior Coach will be leaping into Brandon's open arms at the end of the year.
3 or 4 years of Brady Joke. . .
The landscape is barren this year. . .w/o Jimmy H., the wise decision would have been to wait until the coaching pond is restocked. . .now we gonna have a little bitty bluegill coaching Michigan for the next 3, 4 years.
I know who we need lets get Miami's interim coach I mean did you see that peptalk?
Meanwhile, for all you Mike Leach lubbers....
TTU = major recruiting violations under Leach.
I mean... I don't know how old you are... but 234 text messages to 45 prospective athletes by one coach? I know people in college probably send and recieve at least 100-200 texts a day if not more.
Thats... 5.2 texts to each person? Over how much time I wonder? And some probably responded so there was a quick conversation...
To be fair... I'd probably say on an average day I send about... 150-200 texts a day? It's really not a lot at all.
I know it's illigal... but it's not exactly like texting is an obvious thing that Mike Leach would definitely know about. If that's the reason we didn't hire him I'd be concerned about our program/fan base/decision makers.
But not taking head injuries seriously and locking kids in a closet for complaining are reasons to not hire someone. I'd take oversigning and allegedly bopping Moeller's wife over that any day.
the sooner the better.
Bill effing Cowher.
For what its worth, and to toot my own horn, I've been clicking the sh-t out of the ad banners all day.
The most recent one was an ad for the American Military University. Anyone ever heard of it? The front page has a photo of a pilot outside of his fighter plane. That should be false advertising - I immediately assumed that I could be a fighter pilot by attending that school. It took me several minutes of mulling it over (right before submitting my application) to realize that I'm an idiot.
Maybe we'll get a decision soon now...
Any way we can we get the banner changed to this?
And yes, RR is looking right at the Diva...
I realize that the only acceptable topic is CC but the final Big Chill number is out and makes a lot more sense
I found a cave....please come get me when this is over. I can't take it. I'm going to sit year and eat guano.
Except when you're dead.
/Switching to industrial strength paint remover.
I would like to see other coaches at Michigan other than Brady Hoke. But, if he does become Michigan’s next head coach, we as a fan base must support him. We can’t go through another coaching term with half the fans and alumni not in full support of our coach. Wr should try to do anything to help our coach succeed.
~ Michael Rosenberg, January 4, 2011
I have never despised anyone I don't personally know as much as I despise him.
I honestly think I would spit on him if I saw him in person.
I had to hold off on negging this... because I was really just wanting to neg his face... then I realized he didn't write this. lol.
Behold, the Ayatollah of Integrity!
You know, there's 1-way tickets to Bolivia leaving tomorrow for under 1500. I wonder if we can convince Rosenberg that RR's taken a head coaching job with a soccer team down there and have him leave us forever...
I have family there....I can easily have him disposed of.
They're all power-tripping. Hardly the first time it's ever happened in human history. Unfortunately, we live in an age where flogging is no longer considered an acceptable form of punishment.
He is a bad person.
Can I help out here? Do you suppose that Rosenberg didn't want to bring down the entire program; but that he did want to bring down Rodriguez for the expressed, intended purpose to clear the space for Jim Harbaugh? For a long time the unproven, working assumption was that Rosenberg was just angry that he no longer enjoyed privileged access to Michigan coaches, who all had a history of cozy relationships with Free Press columnists, going back to Bo and Mitch Albom. But isn't it a much simpler assumption, that Rosenberg wanted Rodriguez out, for the purpose of putting Harbaugh in?
The Rosenberg love-letters to Harbaugh --
In Sports Illustrated:
On ESPN radio:
In Sports Illustrated, again:
Rosenberg certainly didn't want to oust Rodriguez because he thought ill of Michigan losses in the Big Ten and in a bowl game. Rosenberg started his Jihad in the early part of 2009, before Tate Forcier and 5-7. Rosenberg didn't care what sort of performance Rodriguez gave; Rosenberg didn't know then what 2009 and 2010 would hold. It wasn't about what kind of coach Rich Rodriguez was, for Rosenberg. It was something else. I can only presume that it was Harbaugh.
You've hit the nail right on the head.
I can't believe you're still dwelling on this bullshit.
Obviously, if RR gets his papers at today's meeting, that means DB already has his man. (It had better mean that -- otherwise DB is Bill Martin with better hair). It also means that DB had indeed been waiting on Harbaugh.
Lynn Henning, Detroit News, 11.26.10:
If [Brandon] does opt for a new coach, Harbaugh is by far his best choice to do everything the Wolverines are obliged to do — in a hurry.
I believe he would leave Stanford for Michigan in a heartbeat. He grew up there when his dad was on Schembechler's staff. He played quarterback for Schembechler and took the Wolverines to a Rose Bowl.
He wants to coach again in this conference, absolutely. He deeply wanted to be considered for the Michigan State job four years ago before Mark Dantonio was hired.
He would hit Ann Arbor like an intercontinental missile and provide as much turnaround energy as any coach in the land could bring. And if you doubt it for a moment, you don't know Harbaugh, or the job he has done at Stanford.
Those who say Harbaugh is more likely to opt for an NFL job are forgetting his Michigan ties. They also are underestimating his football savvy.
Harbaugh understands that a college coach is his own personnel director. He has control over his talent. He recruits his roster, with little interference from above.
In the NFL, you must answer to a general manager, or bow to differences with a personnel guru. Harbaugh is too good, too smart, to put up with conflict there, a lesson Nick Saban learned during his brief and regrettable time in the NFL.
The Wolverines are Harbaugh's dream job. He knows what can be achieved. Almost instantly.
So, too, in all likelihood, does Brandon, who didn't take the job at Michigan to accommodate football as it's now being played in Ann Arbor.
Hi, I'm Lynn Henning and I'm a douche.
Speaking as an alumni, who really wants to go back to biting cold, super-expensive, no-parking-anywhere Ann Arbor? Don't get me wrong - I'm passionate about Michigan - but given the choice, I would stick around in mild SF over freezing A2 in any lifetime.
before the whole coaching search, I was thinking, "Really, people? Dude's an A-hole. Just ask Mike Hart." Then, after canning Rodriguez (wrong decision), it seems like everyone got on the Harbaugh bandwagon. I must admit that I joined, as it would have definitely been the best hire to "unite the fanbase".
With this new news comes a bit of a positive, because I kinda liked disliking him. I usually have zero vitriol for any M alums, but I think i can make an exception.
Screw you, Harbaugh. Screw You. Mike Hart was right.
I know it's over and oh it never really began but in my heart it was so real.
Time to get wasted
wishing in hindsight that we DIDN"T make a bowl game this year? If RR was gonna be fired anyway as he was, at least the evaluation would have commenced immediately after the OSU debacle, and we would have a coach now.
Not like the bowl game was enjoyable anyway. Ironic that the bowl game we all wished for ends up working against us in the long run. Story of the last four years around here, I guess.
We need you. Hell, I need you. I'm a mess without you. I miss you so damn much. I miss being with you, I miss being near you. I miss your laugh. I miss your scent; I miss your musk. When this all gets sorted out, I think you and me should get an apartment together!
make u feel a lil better...
Yeah, but couldn't they ALL get punched in the face? PLEASE???
+1 HTTP 403 error for you, sir. Only thing that made me smile in the past day.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
Seems like most people around here think RR didn't get a totally fair shake at Michigan. Guess we're a bit in the minority.
Tony Dungy sounded like he would atleast give it a thought if he was offered the job when asked on PTI.
We get too hung up on the flavor of the week (I am also guilty).
All one has to do is look at all the very successful football teams out there that aren't Michigan to know that there aren't just a few good coaches in the various leagues.
I'm hearing too much from B1G and UM about "the brand." Chevy is a great brand. Biggest branding and ad budget in the US. Advertising drives that brand.
But I'd still rather drive a BMW. Quality drives that one.
I am so....over this whole thing! This is whole mess is circling the drain to the point where they will have to "settle" for a coach, that is, in my opinion, underwhelming. Doesn't make him a bad guy, and doesn't make him likely to fail....just underwhelming on the surface!
PANIC!!!! PLEASE GOD. NOT BRADY HOKE!!!
Brady Hoke is on the "short list" for the Stanford job!
I was never in the harballz bandwagon.
I miss Rich Rod. Is Brady Hoke really a better option? Fuck no.
I hope DB has a productive weekend.
As a human being trying to function in a complicated world, this is nothing to me. I got serious shit in the day-to-day to contend with.
As a lifelong Michigan fan who has long looked forward to Harbaugh coming home and leading us, this is devastating. Who should the next coach be? I don't give a damn. Brandon's call. I'll be there and I'll be supportive and presumably U of M rises from this shitpile like a mutant Phoenix. I don't see anything unattractive about the job with the exception of the climate and perhaps economic flight from the state. Somebody worthwhile with take it. But one of the main things I've been waiting for just ended in a big Fuck You.
Look, Harbaugh not coming here certainly is painful. It would have been amazing having a Michigan Alum and former NFL quarterback as our head coach. It didnt happen, oh well, lets move on.
Having Harbaugh as an NFL head coach should be capitalized on by the Athletic Department. DB needs to ensure that he continues to have a relationship with Harbaugh and use Harbaugh's fame and success for recruiting purposes. Who knows, maybe they can get Harbaguh to do a coaching clinic in AA or something like that.
I want a reporter to ask him how close/if he was close at all to coming to UM
How do you get a Michigan grad out of the AD office?
...pay him for the pizza!
Whatever. Good for Jim he made the right choice according to Jim's needs. David Brandon has a lot of work to do.
He doesnt even have final say on the 53-man roster...is anyone else surprised? I am shocked he couldnt get control of the roster.
He's looking for another job inside three years.
Let's guess the next Michigan coach plus ASSISTANTS! (plus one if you get them all right)
It will be like clue
Ok I'll go first:
Loeffler - Off Coordinator
Trgovac - D Coordinator
Ok - your turn
(this is what we are left to now that Harbaugh is gone
I don't believe we will have a coach for next season
Fuck the Niners clap clap clapclapclap
Fuck the Niners clap clap clapclapclap
/I promise I'm done bashing JH as of now. Ready? Go.
Michigan offered Harbaugh $5.2/year? Anyone know where he's getting this number from?
Also, I guess any debate as to whether DB was serious about moving the HC's salary from the "middle of the pack" to the top is over...
RR to Stanford? Anyone? I would go to his games.
Stanford would never stoop that low. Like him or not, RR is damaged goods right now - a year or two away from the game will help him regain his good stature.
but there aren't a lot of premiere candidates out there right now and Stanford is a place that could stomach a longer transition period, since their fans really couldn't care less either way.
Stanford isn't looking at a whole lot of choices.
So ... three years ago, Michigan lost out on its first two coaching picks. This year, they already have been rejected by their first choice. In between, Michigan has been beaten into submission by the vast majority of the Big Ten. With all due respect, what makes this an elite team, and an elite coaching option, anymore?
Well, we don't know whether DB offered the job to Fitz or anyone else (beside JH, presumably). Requesting permission to interview a guy is hardly a job offer. And who knows whether Fitz or NW leaked the "news" for selfish reason. I wouldn't doubt it. Michigan wouldn't have leaked it. DB's request was stupid for PR reasons. And DB does appear to be stupid. But still.
Why is it that Miles, for all his recruiting skills, hardly ever fields top-tier or even memorable quarterbacks? The biggest one I can think of is Jamarcus Russell. Then a bunch of virtual nobodies. Flynn. Davey. The clowns currently on his roster. Just a bunch of nothing. It's almost bizarre.
So far, LSU is playing like a team that thinks it's about to be abandoned.
The post that noted that the Michigan job might not be so elite anymore due to the unwarranted media coverage, etc. may be very true. The job is tough enough without having a bunch of incompetent sports writers constantly give public job ratings on a job they know absolutely nothing about.
I know that the flip side of this is that that comes with the job regardless of where you are at.
Still, I wonder about Brandon's management expertise. Usually if you have an employee who is really good at parts of his job but lacking in one area, you work with him to improve his performance in his weakness. Why didn't Brandon tell RR he can keep his job but that he was going to hire a competent defensive staff for the football program since that seemed to be where a lot of the problem lay?