"Harbaugh can do better than Notre Dame"

Submitted by Aequitas on
I know there's a ton of ND coaching drama out there, and most of it I skim or ignore, but I thought this article was a pretty good read. http://www.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_13922214?nclick_check=1 I thought the comments about expectations versus how long Willingham was given were right on. Although Tyrone's done nothing since ND, it still doesn't look great for potential coaches.

brianshall

December 4th, 2009 at 9:12 AM ^

Harbaugh's a great Michigan Man; would be exactly what Notre Dame needs. And, if they made him head coach, I'd never stop being sick to my stomach.

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DoubleMs

December 4th, 2009 at 7:14 PM ^

A Michigan Man taught Notre Dame to play football, a Michigan Man could teach them to play football again... I'd hate to see it, but it's true.

ebbtide

December 4th, 2009 at 9:32 AM ^

"That's what the Notre Dame job does to people. It sets them up to underachieve. Everything is outsized there — the mythology, the expectations, the scrutiny. The football team has won 11 national championships and produced seven Heisman Trophy winners. Administrators, coaches, players and fans alike presume a certain entitlement, all season every season, willfully ignorant that college football is now a big business, with a number of big programs throwing big money at a chance to win the national title. It's too bad. The Irish have won one national championship in the past 32 years and produced one Heisman Trophy winner in the past 45 years. At some schools, that would be cause for celebration. At Notre Dame it's a standard by which coaches are canned. And while this was the case nearly eight years ago when Willingham took the job, the desperation has become more palpable in the years since, the expectations more out of touch with reality, the entitlement as relevant to the modern college football experience as a raccoon coat." I pray every night that Michigan avoids this trap... How easily can we exchange school names here and worry...

MichiganExile

December 4th, 2009 at 10:52 AM ^

It seems that any potential candidate for that position should know the inherent risks and serious downside to the job. Maybe the possibility of becoming a living legend in Notre Dame circles and college football circles in general is pretty tempting and probably outweighs the downside in the eyes of most of these highly ambitious coaches. Just look at the fanfare Carroll has gotten after resurrecting a very mediocre USC.

HermosaBlue

December 4th, 2009 at 3:53 PM ^

Well, our rivalry with ND could be considered riverly in that it has twists and turns and its flow is rough and dangerous in parts while calm and peaceful in others. Besides that, I have no idea how our rivalry is riverly. And I'd probably label it riverish or riveresque rather than riverly, which is presumably an adverb.

buddha

December 4th, 2009 at 2:57 PM ^

Word around KU circles is that Harbaugh is the front-runner for the Kansas job. His wife is from Kansas and his parents live close to the Kansas City area. Also, KU pays double his current salary and the recruiting barriers at KU (ala: academic standards) are non-existant. I would personally be surprised if he left a high-profile school like Stanford to go to KU, but who knows...thoughts???

NHWolverine

December 4th, 2009 at 3:08 PM ^

a move from Stanford to Kansas (or any Big 12 N team) at this point is a lateral move at best so I'd have to guess that Harbaugh was interested in the cash alone to make this move. Let's not forget that Jim's brother John is an NFL HC (Ravens) and Jim still runs a pro-style offense at Stanford. Does anyone else think he has Pro aspirations? As we've seen it's become relatively easy for coaches to "test the waters" so to speak in the NFL and still bounce back into a prominent program if they fail (Petrino, Saban, Carroll, etc. etc.).

Irish

December 4th, 2009 at 4:09 PM ^

But he just got that nice bathroom..... I really thought that the Kansas job would be a bit of drop from where he is. If he is truly interested there is probably a big$ attached to it

buddha

December 4th, 2009 at 5:31 PM ^

I have to imagine you are right. That bathroom would be very difficult to leave! I agree that KU is a definite step down from Stanford. KU had won 3 bowls in 100+ years prior to Mangino - not exactly a tradition of excellence! I'd have to think that if KU offered him a greater salary, Stanford could easily match it.

The Fifteenth

December 4th, 2009 at 6:27 PM ^

here's the thing i like about harbaugh to notre dame. if he does well (and beats us repeatedly), we can just steal him away.