Sucks for Indiana, but not to surprising... being it is Indiana.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Sucks for Indiana, but not to surprising... being it is Indiana.
I would be surprised if Indiana is actually surprised by this. But at least they still have those Colts, right?
I lived in Michigan every Autumn until this year and had to live with the Lions. This year I moved to Indiana and have to live with the Colts. If past results mean anything, I plan on having a long stay in Dallas in the future.
If you would be so kind as to move to Green Bay?
perhaps Columbus if you could keep your sanity.
No please not my Cowboys :)
It was strange seing their logo so high up on the recruiting lists.
Sucks for Indiana. Was hoping the kid would end up there. But I certainly can't blame him for looking elsewhere. The Hoosiers have lost to two mid-majors and have to win out to be bowl eligible - probably not the progress he was looking for under Kevin Wilson.
I'm with you here. While my better judgement wanted him to go to Michigan or at the very least a team Michigan never had to worry about, I was quietly happy when he committed to IU. I think on the inside, many of us feel sorry for Indiana and wouldn't mind seeing them being somewhat competitve on not just a B1G but a national level for once, even if only for a couple years at time. I though Kevin Wilson would be the guy, especially landing a top tier recruit like Gunner. Alas, it's never meant to be when in comes to IU.
... and now wants to talk to Beilema.
Was very surprised he commited there in the first place. I mean, I know his brother goes there (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) but come on..it's Indiana! He's not getting the Paytons and Powes of the world to sign on at Indiana with him.
His brother Dusty is one of the many QBs that have lined up under center for IU this season. He probably took one look at the repeated beatings those guys have taken and said, "F that."
Dusty and Gunner...what a name duo.
You also have to realize, IU is 40 minutes from Columbus, IN. There are still athletes that consider proximity to home important.
Sucks to be IU. But Gunner had to notice, not only do they SUCK, but... after him, the next-highest recruit to IU was all 3 starts -- not a single 4* in sight. So the suckiness was going to continue into the future.
Damn. I really hope Kiel doesn't go to ND.
I personally enjoy blue chip, quarterback recruits who underachieve at Notre Dame.
in the first place - how does one underachieve against Army and Navy every year?
Indiana football friends are gonna....oh who am I kidding. I've never met either of their fans.
I doubt it helps, but hopefully Payton can talk to him
Oh, wait, wrong blog
So I'm not surprised.
That sucks! I was honestly looking forward to this kid bringing Indiana back to being decent. I hope he stays in the B1G at least. We need talent.
This isn't that surprising given that it was a bit of a shock when he chose them in the first place and they haven't looked very good at all.
It's interesting that his first visit will be to ND. ND was one of the favorites when his recruiting started, but they didn't even make his final list of schools. That being said, ND doesn't have a QB in this class and Rees has been somewhat erratic, so maybe he sees an opportunity there.
OU and Alabama were his other finalists. OU has a commitment from Trevor Knight, who is a four-star to Rivals, 247 and ESPN and three-star to Scout. Alabama has a commitment from Alec Morris, who is a three-star. Both of those guys committed right around when Kiel made his decision, but are hardly blue-chippers.
I'll be interested to see if Michigan jumps into the picture, but given our other needs and the caliber of players still considering us, I'd be surprised if it happens. Still, if the best QB in the class is available, I think the coaching staff would still take a look.
Kiel must have realized he likes his body to stay in one piece. On a sidenote is really quiet on the recruiting front? Haven't heard anything from where the coaches are visiting. Read a rumour about Dunn possibly visiting for Purdue. Nothing else has really surfaced.
This guy just needs to be in the spotlight all the time. He needs to just wait until signing day.
What's one more 5 star qb who can't beat Michigan. Bring it
ha, kid will never end up at ND, just coming to watch a game and hang out with the rest of the top recruits in the country
Curious about where he's gonna go. Iirc, Oklahoma and Alabama were high on his list
Hey Irish , why do you think that? Just curious
Personally, I wouldn't be totally shocked if he "re-opened" to take some free visits, see some good games, and then recommit to IU.
That wouldn't be too surprising, see a bunch of great looking campus', get treated like mini royalty for some programs, and fly around the country watching football games
"Sure, I'll take a free ticket to the first night game in South Bend in 20-ish years, against USC"
"Why yes, I'll take that free trip to Tuscaloosa for the LSU/Alabama game"
"Hey Oklahoma, any chance you can get me on the sideline for the Bedlam game?"
I mean, I sure as hell would take some of those opportunities. It's not like IU is going to say "go eff yourself" if he takes visits and then wants to recommit, his spot isn't going to fill up.
I don't understand why all recruits don't take their five official visits, if they get the invitations. I think it would prepare them better for the College gameday (and otherwise) experience, and help prepare them to play the game the following year, even if they've already decided which school they will attend. Why sit around your high school for the weekend?
Notre Dame is where 5 star QB's go to wilt into obscurity. The few that don't provide great entertainment to the rest of the ND-hating college football world when said QB's NFL Draft stock plummets on draft day whilst the ESPN camera captures a new low of dejection with each successive pick. The humor continues through the QB's first and second year in the league, and only ceases when Colt McCoy/Cam Newton/someone else is picked to replace yet another epic ND QB failure.
Have Montana! The good one, not his crappy son
haha, this is so awesome
Does it fit it? He sounds more like a pocket guy to me, though it looks like he can run for touchdowns, I get the impression that's more 'Tebow' than 'Denard' running.
And this surprises people because?
Many surprised people in this thread, to be honest with you
If he doesn't go to Michigan, then I will actually be a little disappointed that he wont be at Indiana. I was looking forward to having that kind of talent play for a program like IU, and how it would affect their future.
Hope he finds the right fit though. (In Ann Arbor?) cough cough..
Obviously it would seem ND would be a front runner, but according to our QB numbers, we really could use a QB in this class. Probably a long shot here, but there's always hoping. Maybe someone anonymous can send Kiel some photo's of Purple Face blowing up at his QB in the USF game.
too early to really know who has a shot at him.
But Kiel only visited us once whereas he made multiple visits to Indiana along with Alabama and Oklahoma who were assumed to be the other major suitors for him. Despite rumors to the contrary, never sounded like he was terribly interested in Michigan.
maybe he likes our OL for 2012. He know they will protect his NFL-destined frame.
He has to go somewhere he can show his skills for NFL scouts. Indiana looks like they will be a tire fire for the next couple years. If Minnesota weren't in the conference, they would be embarrassing.
The next few years? Seems to me they will be a tire fire for longer. Also, saying that Minnesota keeps Indiana from being an embarrassing is false. That's like saying that Alabama would look great in the conference if it wasn't for lsu
He is of course mostly interested in how they will be during the time he's there. Who knows what can happen with that program long-term?
Yes, of course it's false.
Damn, I hope this doesn't make Payton want to go to ND so that he can be one of Gunner's targets.
Gunner de-committed from Indiana. That shouldn't affect payton going to notre dame or Michigan unless gunner, ya know...actually committed to nd
That's what I meant, but probably none of this will make a difference. Payton is probably going to announce sooner than Gunner does anyway.
Have a pair of quaterbacks here in Gardner and morris who were 5 stars by at least one source if he comes to aa
Maybe Kiel is going to the Notre Dame game (an unofficial visit) in order to talk to Payton about Michigan?
in this one.
When people committed and then stayed committed.
\Get off my lawn!
I hope we can pull Dunn.
\Haha, I'm on your lawn.
but if Dunn visits for a purdue game. Its safe to say Michigan has a huge chance to sway his committment.
I hope we can pull Dunn and Kiel.
\Haha, I'm on both of your lawns!
I was kind of hoping Kiel could do for IU what Brees did for Purdue, but IU isn't exactly having the same level of success that Purdue did in Tiller's first year, so I can see him wanting to jump ship. IU still has a good group of coaches that they've brought in, so there's some hope for the future there, I think.
They're on track to hit the 3,000+ yard mark this season again.
He could probably easily beat out Wright-Baker (So.) and his older brother Dusty Kiel (So.).
Wilson is a very good coach, but No. 1 ranked quarterbacks usually don't commit to play for the Fightin' Hoosiers.
He is a little worried about Indiana's new football rivalry with MSU, not because MSU is perceived as some football power, but because they are perceived as a classless bunch of thugs who wrecklessly try to injure opposing players....... That, and Indiana would have two star offensive linemen watching his back.
Is it completely crazy that part of me would be disappointed if Kiel came here and limited Morris to just one year as a starter? Obviously if he stole all the PT that would mean Kiel was better so we would have a stellar QB but Morris has always been a wolverine at heart and has been great for our recruiting momentum. I'd kind of like to see him get what he's been working for. I'd love to have either of them lead us to a few championships though.
Also.. did Kiel really need to see this season to know that Indiana is terrible?
I wouldn't say disappointed. I am ecstatic that we have a kid like Shane on board this early in the game but it is quite amazing how many people are willing to just give the keys of the ferrarri to him right now (not an attack at you just an overall statement). It would be amazing if we had two quarterbacks with the skills that Gunner and Shane possess.
Yeah disappointed was a bad word choice. I guess I'm just thinking from the recruits' perspective rather than the team overall. For instance, if I was a pretty highly rated kid, and then some freak athlete was to commit after me and ate up all the playing time my entire career I would be pretty disappointed. It's obviously the nature of the game and you have to play your way onto the field, but man that would suck.
(Just realized I'm looking like Tate moping on the bench. Disregard my sentiments.)
You cant assume morris will be a stud. You have to take Kiel if he wants to be here. Even with Gardner, yes he has shown potential but we havent seen enough at this point. Im in the seat of a QB in every class. The more talent and competition tbe better it will maje everyone. I doubt bellamy ever starts significant games for us. But you never know. But gardner, bellamy, kiel, morris sounds like a great set of QBs to me.
you are overlooking several very plausible scenarios. (assuming morris redshirts) if kiel either plays as a freshman or heads to the nfl after his junior yr, that would leave morris with two years of eligibility left. if kiel does both, morris would have 3 yrs left.
bottom line: you want kiel at michigan
Gardner, Bellomy, Kiel, Morris. No rather take out Kiel there! Morris is a left handed stud, could be a Steve Young passer. With a threat to run a little. Just give the kid time to throw!
My OU contacts tell me the ship has likely sailed on him being part of their 2012 class. Stoops has his guy apparently and likes to do 1 a class. No more, no less.
Gotta figure Bama can loosen the roster for him. Their built-in open tryouts based via the artful use of medical hardship rules give them superior flexibility.
I was curious to see if Stoops really does only take only one per class every year, and it is generally true according to rivals. The only year they took more than one (since 2002) was 2006, when they took Sam Bradford and Joey Halzie, and I'm guessing that is only because they failed to bring one in the year before. The man has a method and sticks to it.
still dont get why he commit to Indiana the first place.
Family ties, proximity to home and playing for the guy that called plays for two Heisman winners.
plays at Indiana also.
this must be their mitch mcgary moment.
Keil will not come to Michigan. He was clearly inferior to our future QB at the camps they both attended. Why go where you know your likely replacement is only one year behind you? Keil is not going to go where his role is likely to be a back-up. That being said, I would love for him to come to Michigan.
i think u are thinking of zeke pike. gunner kiel was generally considered the top performer at the qb camps. shane morris was said to be outperforming pike but still behind kiel. kiel would have a yr of college experience by the time morris got to campus. plus the knock on morris seems to be decision making, which screams redshirt. i seriously doubt kiel is afraid of morris.
Wonder who's in his ear.
Indiana had a close call with QB talent there, but the object lesson is to watch Indiana play before you commit there.....
Just made a post stating the he plans on skipping the ND game and believes he is the silent commitment to Hokes staff.... Not!!! But that would be cool
Look at Adam Weber, love the guy and hope he makes it in the NFL. He is a reminder of what can happen when you play for an unstable coach and have little talent around you. Doesn't matter how good it is...you won't get drafted QB. Now most stud defenders can still look good on a bad team, but a QB cannot.
I live in Columbus.. is Coach Hoke visiting Gunner Kiel this weekend? I guess I might be able to catch him at a stakehouse somewhere over the weekend and give him an earful on protecting the QB better to get some one like Kiel..
I'm from the metropolis that is columbus as well we should hook up for a game at b- dubs!!! Let me kn what u think.