According to Mike Farrell's twitter (http://twitter.com/rivalsmike).
Dude can't make up his mind.
According to Mike Farrell's twitter (http://twitter.com/rivalsmike).
Dude can't make up his mind.
Is this more than what was posted before, or more of the speculation?
Same stuff as the other thread, but it might warrant its own thread. But to sum, 2 sources say ND, 1 says LSU.
So in other words this means nothing
Exactly. And I'm not too worried about Kiel at ND. He can be the next Ron Pawlus, Brady Quinn, Jimmah Clausen or Dayne Crist. ND is where 5-star QBs go to suck.
Do you remember the bombast with which Charlie the Hutt was talking up the unholy union between him and Clausen? "After one practice with me, this kid will . . . . "
IMHO, the problem with the ND offense wasn't Clausen so much as Weis . . .
And as a fellow SoCal guy, yeah, I heard (friend of a friend kind of thing) that Jimmah was about the biggest dick on the planet, so it's not like I routinely stick up for the guy.
This kid is a joke.. Lsu or nd.. Lsd hereafter are both wild card head coaches.. Mad hatter or the man child bk will chew him up.. He looked like total shit in the bowl game ne way.. Let him flounder fuck him!
Sad thing is if he had stayed with his IU commit, IMHO the kid would have been a star. They'd have geared the whole O around him, got tons of coaches and plays for him and pulled in some receivers. He may have even started a bit of a turn-around for the whole program, and been the hero of his home state. I feel for the hosiers, I guess.
USA Today reports that Kiel is not enrolling at LSU, and will enroll at Notre Dame.
But apparently his parents want him closer to home. This according to ND message boards (blueandgold.com).
I bet he's going to be a good one! Purple People Eater will have fun with that head case.
Saw his 2 minute interview pre-game, was eloquent, solid, stated he was leaving for LSU "tomorrow, I love everyone down there, right place for me"
For him to change his mind from what I saw, and he seemed very sincere, I would be very curious to understand how LSU dropped the ball... Unless he finally woke up and discovered that 5 star QBs at LSU have the same chance of long-term succes as a Kardashian at a convent.
has to stop reading message boards.
So. Damn. Funny. Spit on legal pad. Starting on new sheet.
Ah yes ND, where promising QB's grow to become busts or transfers. Don't do it kid, Kelly will make you shit yourself on national TV as he does his best to restrain himself from ripping your arms off and shoving them up uranus. Go to LSU.
It's not as though LSU develops QB's much better than ND either. Offensive talent dies in Baton Rouge.
Well, they haven't had any Tom Brady's come through there, but JaMarcus Russell was an incredible college QB, and Matt Flynn is turning into a decent pro back-up (he looked like Aaron Rodgers in week 17 against the Lions).
...but where is Yuri Wright going?
If this process is any indication....it ought to be fun watching how he makes decisions with pee wee bearing down on him.
You mean the decision whether to get up, or let the trainers cart him off the field?
Seems like that would fit perfectly with being a quarterback at ND.
I don't throw the "lol" phrase out very often; but I really did laugh out loud when I read this. You win this thread.
One of the better posts I've seen on the board lately...this is great.
If this guys goes through his reads like he goes through schools please let him play for ND!! He would have more completions to Countess than anyone else.
I really think thaat if not for Shane Morris, Michigan would have been the place that Gunner would've loved to end up.
Not the quality individual we look for. You don't want a kid who changes his commitment twice. He's not loyal. An attention hawk. His brother is also leaving Indiana. Could it be the second coming of the Forcier family?
why this comment was overrated. I think the comparison's to the Forcier's, based on current evidence is not totally inaccurate...
because Michigan has quite a few kids on the roster who were once committed to other schools, or does it only count if they decommitted twice?
Or perhaps people are disagreeing with his attack on a 17 year old's character for doing what 17 year olds often do..... changing their mind.
I have to admit, when I saw the thread title the first thing in my head was 'Tate?'.
Certainly unwarranted, but 'talented QB switching again' probably triggered it. Of course, switching committments as a high school senior is very different than switching schools because you flopped academically.
I hope they both end up on their feet.
He committed to IU because his family is close to there, but then realized what a shit show that program is. At least Minnesota seems like they could be heading in the right direction, IU has got to be the worst football program in the B1G
and another IU qb are both leaving the Hoosiers football team. Tougher times lie ahead in Bloomington.
Think he wants to stay close to home
If he goes to ND, then I hope he's also this indecisive on where to throw the ball.
does this kid know what commitment means? Cheese and rice!
@ Gunner Kiel
Inconceivable! Laughed my ass off
Oh yeah, I heard he wants to follow in the footsteps of all those extremely successful Notre Dame quarterbacks who lead their teams to preseason top 25 rankings.
Zing! This comment IS so underrated.
...don't mind if I do!
Speaking of Notre Dame, what ever happened to the guy named Irish?
Edit: ironically, the last thread that he posted in was back in october titled "Gunner Kiel re-opens recruitment plans"
make up his mind right now? I get what you're saying, but it seems people forget these are 17-18 year old kids - choosing a school based only on academics is easier (at least it was for me - send out apps, best school I get into - wins) But adding the athletics element to that decision has to be tough. Personally, I think too many people here have Shane Morrisitis. The phenomonon that everyone now thinks kids should commit 18 months before hand and become recruiters themselves.
The point of a commit means you are COMMITTED. That means that you are no longer interested in any other schools. If you aren't 150% positive you are going to go there then don't commit! You should make sure you want to be there if you commit and stick to your word.
Well, I disagree with you to some extent. Things can change, particularly if you commit early. No one (other than Indiana fans, I presume) faulted Kiel for decommiting back in October.
But I do think that this time is different. He only committed about two weeks ago. It doesn't seem like that much could have changed. Did LSU's performance in the NC game really have that big an impact? It seems more like he was undecided and shouldn't have made an announcement to begin with.
That is my point. he really didn't have a reason to commit to LSU if he was going to decommit anyway. He probally should of weighted it out. However I do somewhat agree with the whole Indiana thing.
Roundtree, Hayes, Bellomy, Kalis...
to name a few.........
Unbunch your panties and move on.
I don't think the point was that you shouldn't ever decommit under any circumstances, but he has not decommitted twice, the second time being very shortly after he committed.
And the guys you name are all special cases:
Roundtree (and Shaw) decommitted from their schools when RR came to UM. Same thing with Bellomy and Hoke. There was a major change at another school, and the switched their commitment.
Hayes decommitted from ND because (rumor has it) he felt that he was being pushed out of his commitment when he and his family were ignored on a visit. This was more of a mutual parting of ways.
With Kalis, the coach that recruited him was fired (kind of) and the school went through NCAA sanction craziness. Again, major change in circumstances warranted a reconsideration.
There have been no major changes with LSU or ND in the last month to warrant this. He's just changing his mind, which is OK, but he probably shouldn't have committed then.
All cases are special, at least in the mind of the recruit.
I guarantee that there have been and will be many more situations, some of which will seem ordinary, in which Michigan benefits from a recruit decommitting from another school to commit to Michigan.
Classes at ND and LSU start tomorrow. He has to decide now.
Classes starting and the period to enroll are quite different.
...would prefer that Gunner made a decision. You have about two weeks, Gunner, to decide for or against the human mood ring, in that case. If you go to ND, remember that QB is a temp (potentially dangerous, depending on BK's mood) position there but Kelly (NTK) Services can send your resume to other Division I teams.
Alex Legion and Jerimy Finch called.
They want Gunner to stop using their move.
He needs to shut it down. Screw going EE. He needs time to think this through. Heavy talk he was on ND campus today.
Just read through the tweets, LSU apparently still believes he ends up there, and a lot of flip flopping about ND. I think he stays in the cushy situation at LSU.
Commiting to ND makes complete sense to me.
Except there's a few more weeks left in recruiting.
I would be surprised if ND manages to keep this one.
Idk about you guys but if i was a highly rated recruit i would let the coaches know i intend on attending that university. But i would take advantage of all the SEC benefits. Who would turn down a free trip with girls waiting for you in your hotel room.
1. Go to LSU. Become a bad quarterback on a good team
2. Go to ND. Become a good quarterback on a bad team
I never considered Powlus, Quinn, Clausen, or Crist to be good quarterbacks
sure looks like he works out..... Has Gunner submitted his Speedo picture yet?
but Clausen and Quinn were fairly productive in college. I don't know anything about Powlus and Crist is clearly a bust. ND still has a better track record with QB's than LSU does
No, but they all looked like they had the potential to be great QBs, it's like another trial of Job for devout ND fans.
If these reports are true, then Kiel is showing himself to be a bit of a flake.
Any coach willing to take on a flake doesn't care about the person ... he just cares about what can be extracted from him.
I wonder if Hoke would take him even if he expressed an interest in Michigan?
It's amazing some of the spins this board comes up with.
Thinking the same thing.
Breaking: Jermiy Finch to Florida.
A bunch of people at ND claim to have seen Kiel on campus. Probably the most "credible" source is Scout recruiting analyst Dave Berk, who claims a "very good source" told him Kiel to ND will happen.
ND also might be getting the Armstead brothers. This could be a magical week for the Irish.
USA Today is reporting it as fact. No reliable sources other than an LSU recruiting analyst, so it's not 100% confirmed.
Just wait until both Armsteads are on campus.