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November 11th, 2012 at 6:53 PM
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Guess we can Unbuckle

Bryan Mone apparently was the possible commit this weekend, but it doesn't look like its going to happen. 

http://www.michigantremendous.com/2012/11/bryan-mone-update.html

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:00 PM
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November 11th, 2012 at 7:03 PM
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Hopefully

We do eventually get Mone. Seems like, from the Tremendous piece, that he really likes Michigan and that Houma speaks super highly about his time here thus far. 

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:04 PM
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I only buckle when TVH tells

I only buckle when TVH tells me too....

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:06 PM
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I'll commit tonight if it

I'll commit tonight if it makes anyone feel better

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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Somehow your quint-post does

Somehow your quint-post does not make me feel any better.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:06 PM
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I'll commit tonight if it

I'll commit tonight if it makes anyone feel better

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:06 PM
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I'll commit tonight if it

I'll commit tonight if it makes anyone feel better

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:07 PM
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I'll commit tonight if it

I'll commit tonight if it makes anyone feel better

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:07 PM
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I'll commit tonight if it

I'll commit tonight if it makes anyone feel better

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:10 PM
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A quintuple post, huh? You

A quintuple post, huh? You really want to commit. 

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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Thanks

I feel about five times better now. 

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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Thank You

I already feel 5 times better.

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November 11th, 2012 at 10:31 PM
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Hivemind

FTW.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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5x Sheridan commitment?

5x Sheridan commitment? Ehhhhhhhh, I'll pass, though it would be a boon for QB depth

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:13 PM
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NO

NO

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:16 PM
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Mone seems interesting. 

Mone seems interesting.  Scout loves him (#7 DT in his class), but his offer sheet is modest at this early stage (UCLA, BYU, Utah, Utah State) and 247 isn't as high on him.  That could be (probably is?) related to film accessibility and the fact that he plays in a lightly recruited place.  (I can't find much film myself.) 

Given that he was our very first offer in that class and Scout likes him so much, I have a feeling this kid could end up being an elite, highly coveted recruit.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:38 PM
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I know small sample size

I know small sample size etc....but star lotulelei who plays DT for utah is a consensus top 5 nfl draft pick and also only had offers from byu, utah, unlv and was a 3* recruit. They went to high school about 40 minutes from each other...so maybe it is something about visibility.

 

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:42 PM
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That is a solid idea, but

That is a solid idea, but Haloti Ngata went to his exact same high school and was a 5-star on ovals and their #2 player overall in his class. So it definitely is possible to get major national attention at his high school.

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:46 PM
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Ahhh, well my maize and blue

Ahhh, well my maize and blue google fueled argument was soundly defeated haha.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:42 PM
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Build

Rivals listed him at 6'3" 255 lbs when I put together the offer list. They now list him at 6'4" 315.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:47 PM
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I noticed the wide variation

I noticed the wide variation in weight, too.  In fact, 247, which only rates him as the #5 player in Utah and #14 SDE, has him at 255 pounds.  That seems badly out of date and could explain the ratings gap between Scout and 247.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:16 PM
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Superman dont need no

Superman dont need no seatbelt.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:22 PM
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Click it

or ticket.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:45 PM
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Interesting we're playing Utah in 2014 and Utah and BYU in 2015

so if he came here he'd undoubtedly know guys on those teams. I'm curious though if Oregon is going to make a push for him, given that Haloti Ngata is from his HS and played for the Ducks.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:45 PM
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There's help  for premature

There's help  for premature buckling.

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:47 PM
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I'd love for this kid to go

I'd love for this kid to go blue. He seems like a monster. Also the early offer has to mean the coaches saw something special.

Lets start the Utah pipeline...

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:57 PM
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Michael Ferns, Bryan Mone,

Michael Ferns, Bryan Mone, Malik McDowell, Damon Webb, and Parrker Westphal sure would be a nice start to this class of defensive recruits.  We seem to lead or co-lead for all of them at this (very early) point.

In the Scout rankings, those guys are all in the overall top 111 (McDowell #15, Webb #33, Westphal #56, Ferns #76, Mone #111).

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:21 PM
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I really want an elite

I really want an elite receiver.  Michigan hasn't had offensive playmakers at a position other than Qb in a looong time.

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:26 PM
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A "looong time"?

Hart, Manningham, and Arrington were here in 2007.  I guess we differ in what we consider a "looong time".   They haven't even been gone five years yet. 

I kinda agree that it seems longer though. 

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:34 PM
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That's five years.  For

That's five years.  For Michigan, that is a VERY long time.

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November 12th, 2012 at 12:31 AM
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Especially considering we had

Especially considering we had all of them at once, after a looong string of similar players like Breaston, Avant, Massaqoui, Braylon Edwards, Chris Perry, Joppru, Marquise Walker, David Terrell, and Anthony Thomas preceeding them just in the 2000's. Going a few years without elite talent in the backfield feels odd after having so much at the same time for so many years.

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:57 PM
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With a suffocating defense,

With a suffocating defense, and road graders on the offensive line, you will win the vast majority of college football games you play.

 

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November 11th, 2012 at 11:14 PM
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VAST MAJORITY - great in elections not in college football

i agree with starting teams with great defense and big O lines but to be great in college you need to win all or nearly all your games.

good bye bama hello Kstate

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November 12th, 2012 at 1:16 AM
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True but

I'd say Funchess is going to be a playmaker but since he's a tight end he obviously won't get as many touches as a rb or wr.  Having a big time wr on the outside to go along with Funchess would be huge.

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November 12th, 2012 at 9:39 PM
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Agreed, Funchess will be a

Agreed, Funchess will be a game changer as a TE in a few years.

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:46 PM
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Michigan hasn't had offensive playmakers

I bet our collective opinion of Fitz Toussaint would be much, much higher if he had a quality offensive line in front of him this season.

Do you think that Darboh and Chesson don't have the playmaker ability you're thinking of?

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:54 PM
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You might be right about

You might be right about Fitz, but he hasn't shown that he can get yards on his own the same way other elite backs can.  As for Darboh and Chesson, I don't really know, but it seems like they resemble Adrian Arrington a lot more than Braylon Edwards.  I don't see either of them being explosive WRs.

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:03 PM
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Nope.

I'm optimistic they will become solid contributors at WR, but they would see quality time this year if they were elite. The current group is neither elite nor so in synch with the QBs as to prevent frosh playing.

Hope they both prove me wrong.

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November 12th, 2012 at 1:17 AM
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Yeah

Considering how 'average' the receivers have been, it's a little disappointing that neither has seen the field much, especially the last couple of weeks with Gardner playing QB.

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:54 PM
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Too soon

Maybe 5 or 6 are ready to commit but Hoke is queuing them for another super weekend in Feb when they can hang out together in AA and jump on board all at once.

Beilein will give Hoke plenty of exciting games this winter for a recruit-a-palooza.

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:56 PM
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Tremendous is almost always

Tremendous is almost always wrong when it comes to predictions. 

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:57 PM
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Not so

Have been pretty spot on in nothing but a guessing game

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November 11th, 2012 at 10:39 PM
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I've

I've been terrible in predicting where some commits will end up (Drake Harris, Garnett, Reeves), but in terms of knowing an actual commitment we've done a good job. 

EDIT: What I mean by this is that when people ask for me to predict where recruit X will end up, I give them an answer. When we're actually aware of a potential commitment, we've been accurate. 

We don't have the benefit of a paywall to hide our mistakes. It's something I live with. I've never denied being wrong and won't. It's not easy knowing what these kids will do. Thankfully, 99% of the people don't crucify us for making some mistakes. 

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November 11th, 2012 at 11:40 PM
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Assuming that you had Mone's

Assuming that you had Mone's approval, I appreciate that you came out afterward and clarified what happened.

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November 12th, 2012 at 12:03 AM
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Steve,

Was Bryan allowed to approve your last post? We'll assume a non-response means "no".

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November 12th, 2012 at 12:22 AM
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What's your line for a "buckle up" warning?

If it's just possible...or likely? I'd say "considering it" doesn't seem like a strong likelihood, especially when it seems the question was posed rather than volunteered. I'd say "gut instinct" should be when a kid says he's planning on committing, not if he just might. Doesn't guarantee it either, but it'll avoid a lot of false alarms.

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November 12th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
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I

I need to work on that sort of stuff I guess; commitment watch to me is less than a buckle-up; what I meant is that there was reason to believe a commitment was possible this weekend. If our site keeps quiet and someone does pull the trigger, the same people who get really upset that nobody committed would be the first to harrass us on Twitter and Facebook and say that we stole the info from someone else. It's really a lose-lose when there is no paywall with stuff like this. 

Sometimes I've had to play our hand when we know we have info that nobody else does to show we do it legitimately. It didn't work this time. 

As far as Bryan, I'm talking to him tonight; he was OK with me posting an update on Thursday when we talked, but I held off. Given that's the info I posted last night, my assumption is he is fine with it. 

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November 12th, 2012 at 8:50 PM
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I didn't mean to insinuate he didn't know/want you saying it.

Just that with trail and error you'll get more a sense when kids are saying what they think you want to hear vs. someone who's really strongly considering it. It's tough to balance.

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November 11th, 2012 at 10:33 PM
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coldnjl
Joined: 12/31/2009
MGoPoints: 12624
SInce his predictions are

SInce his predictions are based on the recruits themselves, I guess we should blame him...I do want to congradulate him on obtaining an interview with Moan. He seemed like a kid, much like Keugler, who would never give an interview. The fact that he gave an interview and was forthcoming about the possibility of a commit suggests Aquaman is quite disarming...

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