the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
Group of players reaffirm commitment to PSU
July 25th, 2012 at 11:32 AM | 
Come on, that was funny.
Come on, that was funny.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:00 PM |
I think people want to treat everything that happens as part of
I think people want to treat everything that happens as part of
the whole. I can understand that. I can also understand people feeling it is too soon. I also laughed at Shane Morris doing a photoshopped handstand where that statue used to stand.
The players and the new coaching staff had nothing to do with it and deserve to be treated like crap, just as we would treat any other respected foe.
If a video on a blog is going to bother them, wait until someone across the line of scrimmage starts in about the goings on in their locker room.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
July 25th, 2012 at 11:54 AM |
Yeah, sorry
Yeah, sorry
but that was hilarious. I nearly spit out my coffee onto my keyboard as I watched this.
Not saying I find humor in any way shape or form in this situation, but I bet you at least chuckled a bit.
"Touchdown... No flags!!"
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July 25th, 2012 at 10:57 AM |
I see you, donkey man!
I see you, donkey man!
good one! As a side note, I hope a lot of players stay....I always liked Penn State. (helped that we beat them a lot...)
(WFBlue, it's funny because that's the bball team being announced for March Madness)
July 25th, 2012 at 10:41 AM |
Those who stay at PSU may not
Those who stay at PSU may not
Those who stay at PSU may not be champions on the field, but they will certainly have a stronger bond with each other than they otherwise would have.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:49 AM |
Yes... they really have
Yes... they really have
Yes... they really have nothing to lose and no expectations... any win will be huge, and these kids will have gone through hell together, I can see a certain appeal to staying.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:52 AM |
Only 25?
Only 25?
That's less than 30% of the team. Even if the other 65 aren't leaving (and I doubt they would), you've got to wonder how much time they're devoting to the upcoming season at this point. A lot of those guys are fielding calls from other coaches telling them how bad Penn State is likely to be, and every time they turn on ESPN it's more of the same. I'd be pretty down if I was in their shoes.
Go Blue!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:55 AM |
Painful
Painful
Man it was painful to hear those guys talk, good intentions but poor execution. Not sure if it would have been better for them to script that (which it really seemed they did) or to wing it. They won't be politicians one day, we know that at least.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:55 AM |
Also remember that these kid
Also remember that these kid
Also remember that these kid have an open door to transfer at any time, so it might be interesting to see if any of these 25 have a change of heart after the end of this season...
July 25th, 2012 at 10:57 AM |
I wouldn't pay too much attention to who wasn't there
I wouldn't pay too much attention to who wasn't there
I'm sure some guys are home for the summer, some have summer jobs and couldn't get off for a press appearance. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the fact that some guys weren't there. Just wait and see.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:58 AM |
O'Brien on Mike & Mike
O'Brien on Mike & Mike
PSU's new JoePa Lite was on M&M this morning and was asked about coaches recruting his players. He mentioned the names of a few coaches (Ferentz was among them) who had contacted him to tell him they were interested in his guys and would be recruiting them. He also implied that he felt some other guys who had contacted his players were classless, since they had not contacted him to discuss it.
He did NOT mention Lane Kiffin among the coaches who had contacted him.
Also, at one point in the interview, when asked why a player would play at Penn State, O'Brien answered, "Where else can you play in front of 108,000 fans six or seven times a year?" To which I started screaming at the radio, "MICHIGAN! ONLY IT'S 110,000+!"
Thank you, Coach Hoke, for bringing Michigan back.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:14 AM |
Can we not call O'Brien JoePa
Can we not call O'Brien JoePa
Can we not call O'Brien JoePa lite? It's not in the least bit clever or funny and just serves to make you (and the board) look bad.
I apologize about the dress code, sir, but my next party is a hayride
July 25th, 2012 at 11:13 AM |
Joe pa lite? Last I checked
Joe pa lite? Last I checked
Joe pa lite? Last I checked o'brien hasn't enable a child rapist. I would avoid comparisons to joe pa, but that's just me
July 25th, 2012 at 11:17 AM |
The whole classless statement
The whole classless statement
The whole classless statement sounds very Dantonio-an to me. I understand why he may think it's unfair, but IMO he should think about the kids on his team who had dreams of winning championships and bowl games only to have that opportunity ripped away by people lied to them. I think it's completely fair for coaches to recruit his players and give them another opportunity if they do choose. Some will clearly disagree with me, and I can see the other side of the token. Just my two cents.
Formerly akron_wolverine and columbus_wolverine. New home, new name. A year in Columbus was enough.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:21 PM |
He didn't say it was
He didn't say it was
He didn't say it was classless for other coaches to talk to and recruit his players, he said it was classless to do it and not let him know they were doing it.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:23 AM |
He was interviewed yesterday
He was interviewed yesterday
He was interviewed yesterday on the Dan Patrick show and he mentioned that several times as well. I understood the message he was going for come on, man. We were playing in front of 100,000+ crowds decades and decades before Penn State added their 15th expansion to go over the 100,000 mark.
Go Blue! Always!
July 25th, 2012 at 12:35 PM |
Come on now.....they may have
Come on now.....they may have
Come on now.....they may have had 15 expansions to reach the 100k mark but you have to admit they were damn stylish expansions!
July 25th, 2012 at 1:43 PM |
That stadium looks downright
That stadium looks downright
That stadium looks downright unstable. It's a good thing State College isn't in an earthquake zone.
July 25th, 2012 at 1:48 PM |
He said it's maybe the best
He said it's maybe the best
He said it's maybe the best stadium in college football. I'm guessing he thought the Metrodome was maybe the best in baseball.
July 25th, 2012 at 4:03 PM |
Say what you will about that
Say what you will about that
Say what you will about that stadium, they have a damn good home field advantage...those white outs are insane...
Wish we had that in us sometimes
July 25th, 2012 at 4:21 PM |
Great crowd, ugly stadium.
Great crowd, ugly stadium.
Great crowd, ugly stadium.
July 25th, 2012 at 1:51 PM |
At least the erector set made it modular.
At least the erector set made it modular.
It will be easy to remove the extra 60,000 seats they will have. I hope they didn't lose the little screw driver and wrench.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:45 AM |
I wonder if PSU will actually
I wonder if PSU will actually
I wonder if PSU will actually have 108,000 fans in the stands for any games in the next few years. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of empty seats.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:59 AM |
I find it sad how Mlive has a
I find it sad how Mlive has a
I find it sad how Mlive has a poll up about what you would do if you were Zettle. I think the man deserves some space and privacy in terms of making a huge decision yet again on his future with college football.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:03 AM |
And some people want to pretend these are amateurs
And some people want to pretend these are amateurs
I know they are considered amateurs because they are not paid, but when you consider the media attention and scrutiny these guys endure they are essentially professionals.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:12 AM |
There is a vast gulf between
There is a vast gulf between
considered amateurs and essentially professionals. If I had a program of my own, classes on speaking to the media and other idiots would be a requirement. I think some kind of seminar might have helped here, but taken as part of the grand scheme of what has happened at PSU, what the players say is the least of their worries.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
July 25th, 2012 at 11:13 AM |
What would you do in this situation?
What would you do in this situation?
Putting yourself in a current PSU player's situation, what would you do? I'm curious to hear people's thoughts. Assuming I played for the team I have loved my entire life (Mich), I can't possibly imagine going anywhere else and wearing another uniform other than the maize 'n blue.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:20 AM |
I'd stay but that assumes a
I'd stay but that assumes a
I'd stay but that assumes a few things. A) I am not good enough to go pro B) I was an upperclassman C) I grew up a Michigan fan
If I was only a year in I'd leave, if I was looking to go pro I'd leave to get better exposure, if I wasn't a fan before I'd leave. Its a very personal decision obviously but those would be my first criteria
July 25th, 2012 at 1:51 PM |
How are you going to get
How are you going to get
How are you going to get better "exposure" than playing at PennState the next two years? O'Brien is also tied into the NFL fairly well, so if I'm a Jr. or Sr. looking to go pro, I stay.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:22 AM |
I think most will stay,
I think most will stay,
I think most will stay, especially seniors who have more to lose if they go. Younger players will consider leaving and they will certainly lose a bunch of their most talented younger players who have most of their careers ahead of them and want to compete for things, and win. That will likely result in PSU fielding a decent team this year and not again for a long while.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:14 PM |
I would stay, and I think
I would stay, and I think
I would stay, and I think mose would (and will). Entering freshmen excepted, since they have virtually no investment in Penn State at all yet, there's a lot more to leaving a program than the football stuff. If you've been in college for a year or more, you have a lot of close friends you see every day. You have roommates, and a house/apartment/dorm you like. You might have a professor or advisor you've gotten comfortable with. You might have a girlfriend or love interest you've spent time pursuing (or multiple). You have your favorite restaurants, bars and maybe the place you get your haircut. You have a schedule that you're used to. You likely have a degree you're pursuing. And - you have this school spirit you've developed after about 20 minutes of living on campus that's hard to turn off.
Not every kid has all of these things, but they all have most of them. Point is, transfering schools is a lot bigger than bowl games and depth charts. For a few guys, those will trump the rest. But not for most.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:46 PM |
Depends
Depends
Am I any good? Honestly, any good player that would definitely start for another major FBS team is probably stupid to stay. More marginal players are probably better off staying because they are going to get more playing time now than they would have otherwise.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:01 PM |
Stay Or Go
Stay Or Go
"Putting yourself in a current PSU player's situation, what would you do?"- nickbob
If I have formed bonds, made friends and invested myself in the team and the school, I would stay, and I think that is part of the reason why these players made that video. This is the very question for which these players are providing an answer. Through all this, that team has probably bonded in a way that few groups ever do even in adverse situations, for they personally have nothing to hide and nothing to lose at this point. It would seem to me that - expectations gone - the only thing they really have now is their loyalty to the school. I think there's something to be said for expressing that loyalty in the most trying circumstances.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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July 25th, 2012 at 11:16 AM |
I think current players are
I think current players are
I think current players are likely to stay but I'm sure there will be some coaches who view this as college football's first free agency period. Personally I don't see how you can keep locker room morale up by going after PSU players but coaches have to make that decision themselves. Recruits are a whole other beast, I expect PSU to be left with a MAC level class for 2013.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:47 PM |
Not even sure of that
Not even sure of that
I'd rather go to several MAC schools than Penn State at this point.
July 25th, 2012 at 1:27 PM |
Then you probably don't put
Then you probably don't put
Then you probably don't put much value on education.
July 25th, 2012 at 1:35 PM |
That assumes that a person
That assumes that a person
That assumes that a person will actually get a better education at PSU than a MAC school. That's not necessarily true. If we're being honest, the quality of education you get probably doesn't vary much from one university to the next. The real "difference" between schools is probably just the amount of prestige associated with having a degree from the school. In the case of PSU, that prestige has been tarnished by this scandal (which may be unfair, but it's reality).
If I'm an HR director looking through resumes and I see "Penn State University," I'm probably going to think of the scandal and the creepy cult of JoePa that exists there. It might well influence me not to hire that candidate. Even though it's unfair, our minds can make those kinds of snap judgments. The entire PSU alumni pool has to live with this albatross.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
Do NOT read comments about
Do NOT read comments about
Do NOT read comments about the Freeh report corrections. You will regret it. I got to this and just had to close the browser window and berate myself for even wandering down this path:
"I am also tired about hearing about the victims. We all feel very bad for them but they had their victory in Court and will be paid large some of money. They sat silent for years."
The author had the name "PSUDAD"
Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:22 PM |
nice
nice
wonder if psudad would think the same thing if it was his child. what a fucking tool.
And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!
July 25th, 2012 at 1:21 PM |
Mouth hanging open
Mouth hanging open
Speechless. Dumbfouded... PSUDAD???
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
July 25th, 2012 at 1:27 PM |
And all those
And all those
JoPa worshipers contributed to the culture that allowed him so much power. And they did NOT sit silently...they continually rallied behind unchecked power, and exacerbated a culture that allowed JoPa to excuse away a monster's behavior.
So while I can sympathize with those uninvolved and ignorant to the atrocities, that myopic and heartless comment is inexcusable...and shows exactly the culture that existed...and why the NCAA needed to punish everyone.
Those people need to wake the fuck up.
((shit! And I only read ONE comment))
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
July 25th, 2012 at 9:14 PM |
Obviously written by Jerry
Obviously written by Jerry
Obviously written by Jerry Sandusky
Special Teams means special times!
July 25th, 2012 at 12:07 PM |
I know the players can
I know the players can
I know the players can transfer and immediately become eligible, but is there a time limit for that? Can a guy transfer a year from now and play right away at his new school?
July 25th, 2012 at 12:55 PM |
yes and yes
yes and yes
They can transfer and be immediately eligible until the 2013 season starts. They can even transfer during this season and immediately play for their new team as long as they hadn't appeared in any games.
Eating is murder.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:13 PM |
read somewhere
read somewhere
this morning that Jordan Hill was intending on staying, can't remember where???/ SB Nation? just google "Jordan Hill transferring from Penn State..."
Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!
July 25th, 2012 at 12:26 PM |
Meh. This is a team that
Meh. This is a team that
Meh. This is a team that barely beat Indiana and got crushed by Houston. Not liek they're going to win that many games this year anyways.
If you need drugs to be a good writer, you're not a good writer.
-Rod Serling
July 25th, 2012 at 12:27 PM |
I bet Rodriguez is one of the
I bet Rodriguez is one of the
I bet Rodriguez is one of the coaches that isn't asking the PSU coach before he recruits his players. He sounded pretty pissed that they didn't show the respect to at least ask him first even though he can't say no.
July 25th, 2012 at 1:10 PM |
why?
why?
why?
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
July 25th, 2012 at 12:57 PM |
From Twitter--
From Twitter--
No Penn State players will attend Big Ten media days. Silas Redd, John Urschel and Jordan Hill had been scheduled to attend.
— Rittenberg/Bennett (@ESPN_BigTen) July 25, 2012
Twitter: @Raoul_000
July 25th, 2012 at 1:04 PM |
Ah yes, another tweet that
Ah yes, another tweet that
Ah yes, another tweet that leaves more questions than answers. Gotta love twitter.
Come on, that was funny. Awful as it was, what happened at Penn State doesn't call for the end of all humor.