Griese vs. Brady

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November 18th, 2010 at 1:18 AM
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Wereverine
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Griese vs. Brady

Let me start out by saying that maybe this is a ridiculously dumb question but I have to ask. Which makes you happier/gives you more joy/keeps you going, having a National Championship Winning QB like Brian Griese or an NFL Super Bowl Winning QB like Tom Brady graduate from/play at your school. Now before you cut me up in the bathtub and drop me in the dump Purple Gang style (Detroit 1-8-7 anyone) for this blasphemy let me say a few things that might level the playing field just a tad. First: College careers are 4 playing years long, while NFL careers can go on forever (at least Favre thinks so). Second: The NFL is followed all over the country, even in forgotten places like Montana and Alaska (I assume) whereas college fan bases consist mostly of alums, students and those who live in college-centric places like the south. Third: If you are a Lions fan or Michiganian/Michigander having a guy like Tom Brady to root for helps ease the pain of watching the Lions (although since Millen left they have started to look competent...that is so weird). Fourth: Although I am not a big live through someone else type of guy, Brady bagging Gisele has to make any Michigan Man stand up a little straighter. Fifth: Being inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame is arguably the pinnacle moment in the sport, commemorating your achievements for life and Brady is a lock. Soooo...what do you all think?

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November 18th, 2010 at 1:22 AM | Why (Score:1)
Huma
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Why exactly does this question "have to be asked"?

November 18th, 2010 at 1:25 AM | I guess I should have checked with you (Score:1)
Wereverine
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Before I posted. Sorry about that. Maybe I should put up another Cam Newton thread.

November 18th, 2010 at 1:32 AM | don't get all defensive on us (Score:1)
SysMark
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don't get all defensive on us

November 18th, 2010 at 9:35 AM | Quarterbacks play on offense, (Score:1)
joeyb
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Quarterbacks play on offense, dummy.

November 18th, 2010 at 1:50 AM | Better yet, you should try to (Score:1)
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Better yet, you should try to sell your Wisconsin tickets on mgoboard...

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November 18th, 2010 at 1:52 AM | poor bouje... I wonder what (Score:1)
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poor bouje...

I wonder what happened to him.

November 18th, 2010 at 1:56 AM | Oh, he will be back in a few (Score:1)
david from wyoming
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Oh, he will be back in a few days. Don't worry.

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November 18th, 2010 at 2:30 AM | What happened to Bouje? (Score:1)
4godkingandwolv...
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Recently, I mean.

Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.

November 18th, 2010 at 9:54 AM | Bouje had been tempting the (Score:1)
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Bouje had been tempting the banhammer for quite some time.   Truly a dick, but he earned my respect when he owned up to being a dick - fair enough.   One of the great ones.

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November 18th, 2010 at 10:53 AM | One of the great ones. Um, (Score:1)
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One of the great ones.

Um, no.

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November 18th, 2010 at 9:58 AM | Meltdown (Score:1)
Rasmus
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As best I could see, he tried to sell his Wisconsin tickets via the spreadsheet but his listing was deleted (whether user error or what, I don't know), so he posted a Board thread to try and sell his tickets, which was removed and he was docked thousands of points. He then melted down, hijacking threads to post FUs all over the Board, including one epic series of one-word serial comments, leaving him vulnerable to massive negs -- for a while he was losing maybe 100 points a minute and went well into negative numbers. Then all his comments disappeared and he was gone, banhammered. Since he has a long user history and he had thousands of points, I expect they'll let him back on once he cools off, assuming he wants to.

November 18th, 2010 at 10:09 AM | Yeah... (Score:1)
MGoShtoink
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To say he was fired up would be an understatement.  Tim negbombed him to 0.  Then he went on the epic tirade and it all fell apart from there.  It was quite entertaining until the mods layed down the banhammer and deleted everything.

I think Tim should have only docked 1000, if that.  I know he has a long history, so at least say "hey dude, rules apply to you too, use Facebook, stubhub, or craigslist if you can't sell them here" and be done with it.  If he posts it again, then lay down the law.

November 18th, 2010 at 11:00 AM | When did this happen?  He had (Score:1)
bluenyc
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When did this happen?  He had some good thoughts and was around forever.  He was a little high strung.  I was on the board yesterday but had some meetings, but I didn't notice any of this in any threads.  I checked his profile this morning.  He is still there with -10 points and no comments.  Kid had like 10k points.

Guess he really needed to sell those tickets.

November 18th, 2010 at 1:18 PM | It was quick (Score:1)
Rasmus
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I only know about it because he hijacked my little UW-IU thread. That was at 11:54 AM. He immediately started ranting -- I remember he was at +57 points when I first noticed it, and literally a minute later (after I completed an obligatory, "No, fuck you!" reply) he was at -47. Since he didn't lose all those points in my thread, I went looking to see what was going on and found him running around throwing bombs all over the place. Ten minutes later, he and all his posts were gone.

Tim's comment in the moderator-action thread was at 11:33 AM, as follows:

2 tickets to Michigan Wisconsin. Ticket sticky. Also removed thread-making level of mgopoints, since the user basically said "I know there's a sticky thread, but I don't care because I'm a unique and special snowflake."

I'll guess the -10 is what the moderators think is fair as a starting point when he is reinstated.

I think Tim should have waited for him to post a second thread on his tickets before docking him 10,000 points or whatever it must have been. Just remove the thread, make a snarky comment in the moderator-action thread, and move on.

November 18th, 2010 at 2:08 PM | Thanks Rasmus, appreciate (Score:1)
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Thanks Rasmus, appreciate it.  I just want to make sure I know what not to do.

I saw his ticket selling request, then I made some comments in other threads and then had some meetings.  Came back right after my meetings and didn't notice anything funny when checking thru some threads.  All this because of some tickets. 

I can't blame Tim for throwing down the hammer.  I always feel people should be given second chances.  He clearly was not a troll.  He did have some anger issues but who doesn't. 

Damn those work meetings.

November 18th, 2010 at 11:12 AM | Wow, I can't believe I missed (Score:1)
Syyk
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Wow, I can't believe I missed that.

November 18th, 2010 at 11:28 AM | Miss a day (Score:1)
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Miss a day and you miss a lot.

November 18th, 2010 at 12:49 PM | ZING! (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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Hahahaha.  Good retort.

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

November 18th, 2010 at 1:39 AM | Dude, if you don't wanna (Score:1)
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imagine a greased up Tom Brady, I don't know what to tell you. Oh.....Griese? Carry on.

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November 18th, 2010 at 3:27 AM | Hey Mr. Sourpuss (Score:1)
Derek
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The OP said "I have to ask." OP didn't make any claims about the question's urgency in itself, so your question is kind of a non-sequitur.

LSA, Class of 2009

November 18th, 2010 at 1:26 AM | You lost me at (Score:1)
Humen
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"college centric places like the south".

 

Griese. I would choose a NC over a good pro career any day. It is not as if Brady is particularly close to any Michiganders other than Lloyd...

 

Carr.

Thanks Thorin/Mgovideo for avatar

 

 
November 18th, 2010 at 1:37 AM | Well (Score:1)
Wereverine
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Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia, Kentucky, Oklahoma and Arkansas do not have professional teams (I realize neither do Alaska and Montana) but they do have big time, cocktail partying/pig roastin/sun dress wearin college football, slanting their interests more in that direction. I ask the question mostly because of the Patriots vs. Colts battle coming up and the feelings of hatred I have for the Colts and all of the Manning obsessed in general.

November 18th, 2010 at 1:44 AM | what? (Score:1)
SysMark
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what?

November 18th, 2010 at 2:03 AM | You sound as high as Harrison (Score:1)
jrt336
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You sound as high as Harrison Ford was on Conan.

November 18th, 2010 at 10:45 AM | same (Score:1)
TorontoBlue
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As a Colts/Manning-hating Patriots fan of the most zealous variety, i see we share the same sentiments.  After scheduling this game in Indy for what seems like the last 10 seasons in a row, the Pats finally get the Colts on home turf.  Can't wait for this one - especially when all of M Nation be in such a great mood after we slip by Wisky on Saturday. 

GO BLUE!

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November 18th, 2010 at 1:49 AM | C. (Score:1)
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Drew Henson

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November 18th, 2010 at 1:56 AM | D. (Score:1)
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Matt Gutierrez

----umhannon

November 18th, 2010 at 4:57 AM | F. Coner (Score:1)
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F. Coner

November 18th, 2010 at 3:19 PM | Really Chester? (Score:1)
acnumber1
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Really?

F. Coner? 

Not going to neg you, but Coner has some pretty big fans in these parts.

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Touchdown Billy Taylor!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

November 18th, 2010 at 5:21 PM | You completely missed what (Score:1)
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You completely missed what they were doing, didn't you?

For Example: G. Clayton Richard

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

November 18th, 2010 at 11:57 PM | No (Score:1)
acnumber1
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No, you actually missed my '/s' which I opted not to insert b/c I thought it was obvious.

 

H.  Larry Cipa

 

(better?)

5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

November 18th, 2010 at 1:51 AM | Detroit 1-8-7 Reference? (Score:1)
MGoShtoink
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Awesome.

November 18th, 2010 at 2:02 AM | Great (Score:1)
jhackney
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show. +1

November 18th, 2010 at 1:58 AM | I couldn't get through your epic question soooo.... (Score:1)
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TOM BRADY!!! In 18 years, we'll have a legacy QB.

+=

November 18th, 2010 at 2:09 AM | Did anyone feel more proud of (Score:1)
AnthonyThomas
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Did anyone feel more proud of Ty Law in the early 2000s than they did Charles Woodson (Woodson was NOT productive as a corner before he moved to Green Bay)? I doubt anyone even considered it. And I'm not sure what Tom Brady bagging what ever her name has to do with Michigan.

November 18th, 2010 at 2:12 AM | Well (Score:1)
jhackney
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if he spawns little Tommys, then you will eat your words when we are National Champs in 2028.

November 18th, 2010 at 2:22 AM | I can see it now: #10 Randy (Score:1)
AnthonyThomas
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I can see it now:

#10 Randy Moss Brady

November 18th, 2010 at 1:04 PM | # 0 (Score:1)
jhackney
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Lloyd Moss Carr Brady

November 18th, 2010 at 9:28 AM | Don't bag on Woodson (Score:1)
JMK
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A-Train, you're wrong about Woodson not being productive before Green Bay:  "In his first season with Oakland, Woodson was selected as the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. He was named to the Pro Bowl and earned All-Pro recognition three consecutive times (1999-2001). "  (Wikipedia)  It's true that he battled injuries over the next couple years, but he was good in Oakland, too.

November 18th, 2010 at 9:47 AM | Bagging? (Score:1)
Ponypie
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1. Nothing to do with Michigan; 2. everything to do with the typical ego-driven athlete (and I happen to like Brady and want him to succeed); 3. hard to believe that anyone in the 21st century would even use the word to describe a human relationship.

Frankly, Brady's escapades make him look like a hormone-slave.

November 18th, 2010 at 1:03 PM | What? (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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Did you just go all "moral" on us?  If so, I am proud to be a hormone-slave, especially if it helps me BAG girls like Gizele!

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

November 18th, 2010 at 5:16 PM | "has to make any Michigan Man stand up a little straighter" (Score:1)
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Why yes...yes it does....

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

November 18th, 2010 at 2:07 PM | "escapade"???? (Score:1)
j-turn14
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Hey man, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to my viewpoint on such things too... but they are married, and have been for a few years now.  I think it's a little beyond an "escapade" by now.

November 18th, 2010 at 5:22 PM | Escapades (Score:1)
Ponypie
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The escapades came pre-marriage: two pregnancies in, what, less than two years?  No problem with what comes after marriage.

November 18th, 2010 at 2:34 AM | tyranny of the or... (Score:1)
4godkingandwolv...
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... it doesn't have to be an or.  It's okay to enjoy both. 

Personally, I was a senior our National Championship year, so I have a lot of fond memories of that year. 

Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.

November 18th, 2010 at 1:07 PM | 1997 (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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I was in the same boat as you . . . were you at MSU to see Woodson's one-handed interception in person?  I will never forget how quiet the Spartie fans were after that pick.  Outstanding!  That said, I'd still take Tom Brady over Griese, if only because I have a man-crush on Brady.  hahaha.

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

November 18th, 2010 at 7:02 AM | WTF? (Score:1)
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That was hilarious. Who would take the time to create that?

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November 18th, 2010 at 1:08 PM | Negative MGoPoint Totals (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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Must resist the urge to neg Jay-Z for no reason other than his negative point total . . .

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November 18th, 2010 at 6:03 AM | Hmmm... (Score:1)
Firstbase
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Brady = Top of Mind Awareness + Gravitas

Ergo...

November 18th, 2010 at 11:38 AM | agreed (Score:1)
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Griese's team had more success, but Brady trancends football and sports in general. He's a pop culture embassador for Michigan Football.

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