Now that the season is over, let's not overlook his total epic fail and endless coaching incompetence.
No stuffed animal can save him now.
I look forward to the day that he's running someone else's program into the ground.
Can we retain his hair?
I am so angry and the smoking crater of a defense he has left in his wake, this normally funny quip doesn't seem funny to me right now :(
I am normally pretty reserved with my words and opinions but he is a complete and total failure as a coach. Years from now I'm sure I will still be pissed off that he ever had the honor of getting to coach for Michigan.
Carr for a complete and utter fail on recruiting his last two years. RR for his total disregard of defensive recruiting his first year, and fail at defensive recruiting the next two years. GERG for his complete and total lack of coaching/scheming ability. This=FML
Too bad his defense wasnt as good as his hair, we'd have the top D in the nation.
Stay classy.........he just did not succeed here, it happens. But to try to tell me he did not put his heart into it, well thats bullshit.
I would put all of my heart into it too, but that doesn't mean I should ever be hired to coach in major college football.
Robinson has two superbowl rings, and had shown he could coach a great defense in the past... it didn't work out as Syracuse's HC, but then again Shannon didn't do a great job as UM (NTUM)'s HC, but he had some great D's as a coordinator.
Bottom line, just because you're not cut out to be a head coach doesn't mean you're a bad coordinator. In that situation it looked like a great hire, but hindsight is 20/20. I would've made the exact same mistake. Good luck GERG wherever you end up, sorry it didn't work out.
Agreed. And it will be interesting to hear from him what defense HE wanted to run this year cause it sure as hell wasn't the 3-3-5 he'd never run before in his life.
Gerg reminds me of a chef who trains in Italian cooking but after he's hired at the resturant the owner says we're going to feature Chinese. And people wonder why the food sucks.
It also doesn't mean you have to start a thread to trash the guy. Stay classy.
Agreed. When you have to resort to stuffed animal, you clearly have already deployed the kitchen sink.
Sure, he put his heart into it. But he hasn't had success in about a decade, and really shouldn't have been hired in the first place. Rod should've known he wanted to go 3-3-5, and that Gerg had no experience running that. He failed here, he failed at Syracuse (although his Little Engine That Could speech was riveting), failed with the Chiefs, and was a beneficiary of having Vince young at QB for his lone year at Texas.
RR forced GERG to run a defense he wasn't familiar with. While GERG does deserve some blame, I put most of the blame on RR for "running our program into the ground" with this 3-3-5.
RR didn't force him to be incompetent enough to not be able to teach his defensive players basic fundamentals.
... he hired GERG on what seemed to be a whim, despite epic failure at Syracuse and spotty positives over the last 10 years of coaching. It seemed like a bad choice and most of this board thought so from the beginning, but we hoped we would be wrong.
Here is a picture of my cat.
Went to the M-den at Twelve Oaks yesterday. I swear the guy who bagged the book i bought was gerg's twin. I almost said something to him about it, but then I got scurred.
some real Shenanigans Farva....real shenanigans.
Unfortunately, last I checked GERG still coaches at UM. Hopefully that doesn't last long. He should have already tendered his resignation for the good of the program.
I agree, need to stay classy. The blame for the past couple years can be put on many shoulders.
The blame for my drinking the last six years can be placed squarely on one man's shoulders.
But surely you can't be serious
I am, and don't call me Shirley.
I don't understand why GERG is the scapegoat for having a 3-3-5 defense shoved down his throat that he has never ran before? Who knows what would have happened if RR would have let him run a different scheme.
Was it really any better in 2009 when they ran a conventional 4-3 defense? Not really.
Its too bad robinson never got the chance to hire his own staff
RR didn't force him to be incompetent enough to not be able to teach his defensive players basic fundamentals as I said above.
Now for some Greg Jennings
Vid is hilarious.
first time for everything.
Go Pack Go, Kill the pretender bears tomorrow!
The argument that GERG has never run the 3-3-5 therefore should be not held solely responsible is on shaky ground.
GERG has been coaching for 30+ yrs. Been to untold numbers of coaching clinics, sat down with great minds and shared thoughts. Seen any and every alignment, both offensively and defensively.
GERG may not prefer the 3-3-5 as an alignment, but once an alignment is in place, football is the same. Gaps, Techniques, Coverages, Blitzes have universals. Alignments have particulars, football has universals. There is no excuse I can think of for a guy of his knowledge base to absolutely suck like he has. (Except his actual record, which then explains the suck)
Alignments are different looks, giving different players responsibilities held by a different player in a different alignment. Do you think GERG just forgot that the B gaps have to be taken care of by LB's in this alignment? "Oh, the B gap is Demens and not the 3 tech? I must review this with RR! Here all this time I was under the distinct impression Kovacs had both B's"
In the 4-3, you have a 1 tech and a 3 tech. Sometimes, you might put both tackles in a 2 tech. Does that mean a defensive coach can't teach gap responsibility because they are in a different alignment?
Our HS DC gives a new game plan EVERY WEEK with different techs and responsibilities for the ends and tackles. We might come out in a 50 w/ tackles in 2 tech one week; the next week we go to a 44. It's not hard.
GERG should be a master of any alignment with his history in the game. Zones, blitzes, disguising coverages should be things he can do in his sleep. He should own most OC's just by his history.
Unless he's been regurgitating information he 'picked' up and can't break down offenses. But, I can't buy that or the fact that RR 'forced' GERG to run the 3-3-5.
that RR (and his WVU cronies) wanted to run a 3-3-5 starting w/ Shafer in 2007 (another failure apparently) and subsequently GR. Don't know what there is for you to buy.
and swallow the camel.
So, the 3-3-5 is too difficult for GERG? Better yet, RR (and his cronies) cannot teach it himself, since he appears to be so enamored with it?
Let the defensive coords do their thing. Shafer wasn't a bad DC and I'm betting GR isn't as bad as this situation paints him. Ultimately RR is responsible for the product. After year 3, I think we have a pretty accurate picture of a train wreck.
My main contention is blaming RR for forcing GERG to run something "he didn't know" is erroneous.
RR is responsbible for everything in the program, agreed.
(The camel and gnat is referring to picking out a small point while leaving the bigger point alone. In the gospels)
"My main contention is blaming RR for forcing GERG to run something "he didn't know" is erroneous."
That is absolutely RR's fault. If he wanted a DC to be successful, he has to allow him to bring in his own folks and coach what he knows. Forcing the 3-3-5, which many don't believe will work in the B10, and coaching buddies on a DC is a recipe for failure.
RR deserves blame for the program's failures.
He deserves blame for the scheme of the 3-3-5 in the BIG.
However, absolving GERG of responsibility because he 'doesn't know the scheme' is erroneous. GERG should be able to coach any scheme that comes across his desk. He may not prefer it, but he should be able to coach it.
Your points are well taken.
Happy New Year and let's both hope UM is better next year, however it happens.
If he can't coach the 3-3-5, he should have never been hired.
Fighting about Gerg is like fighting about the vice-president.
VPs really have no responsiblilites.
Some things were just never meant to be.
to be nasty.
And "GERG" was fun to say. So there's that.
It's been tough and frustrating, but you're a part of the Michigan football story - you know, the chapter that everyone skims and our children's children may not believe.
Best of luck wherever you end up.
He was set up to fail. He was brought in based on his experience and success building championship defenses, but he was handcuffed with a staff he didn't pick and a scheme he was unfamiliar with. How can a man succeed under those circumstances.
Unfortunately for GERG and RR, both men of class and integrity, they put themselves in a position where they would almost certainly fail. You can't make it thru the B1G schedule with 5-6" running backs and 185 lb QBs, not mention 260-280 D lineman. All that combined with poor defensive schemes and terrible fundamentals on the defensive side of the ball, it will be tough sledding.
When the defense does not know where to line up and blows assignments that is the defensive coordinator's fault. No matter what the scheme. If they do not tackle well, DC's fault.
Been a coach for a long time. I was told in the beginning, "either you allow your kids to make mistakes or you coach them that way." All I've heard is excuses. I don't want to hear about the labor, just show me the baby.
Greg Robinson is actually a failed genetic experiment involving the DNA of Phil Donahue and Leslie Nielsen.
2008: Greg Robinson, Syracuse 3-9, #108 defense in the nation
2010: 8-5, #5 defense in the nation. And this:
I've spent six years watching Greggers run Syracuse and now Michigan into the ground. I can't wait to watch him crater someone else for a change.
How many kittens have you killed by now?