ESPN Insider headline infers Draymond Green guaranteed a win in East Lansing.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/colleges/michigan/post?id=1711&action=lo...
Also, I think I have a new favorite sideline reporter
Draymond Green still can't
3 is nice but we gotta keep
3 is nice but we gotta keep this up for a while before the state is "ours," so to speak. Kind of like their football team and how 4 wins doesnt mean a lot in the big picture-- gotta respect what they've done as a program and deliver consistently before we can say it's back in our favor- but it definitely seems like we're headed that way.
MUAHAHAHAHA! MUAHAHAHA!
disagree completely
Michigan has owned football against everyone forever, michigan state is marginally above michigan in accomplishments and no where near a big program nationally in basketball. We're ahead in the head to head series by twenty some wins.
Also, Izzo is a clown...
I don't care who wins, as long as it's Michigan.....
Izzo is such a clown, he has
Izzo is such a clown, he has essential owned us on the court and recruiting. Things are changing, but the man is a hell of a coach and deserves our respect. You can't say that MSU isn't the top program in BBall while simultaneously saying the UM is the top program in football.
In fact, your whole post is idiotic. MSU has won NCs in BBall and has done incredibly well in the tourney. We have just left a horrible period in our BBall history.
gosh....this board has turned into sparty football fan.....all i keep reading is how green or someone says wait till el. then we rip him for it. sounds like us saying wait till next year in aa. fact is the 2 major programs at both schools are good now. there wont be anymore blowouts for a long time.
So you don't see a difference
So you don't see a difference between random Internet guy proclaiming "wait till next time" and Spartan senior leader of the basketball team Draymond Green guaranteeing a win and saying wait till next time?
The points are:
When basketball is viewed as post Fab-5, then Michigan has been terrible in basketball, directly as a result of the scandal (terrible coaches, no investment in facilities...). Therefore, MSU has "owned" Michigan, but that wasn't a fair fight. When you look a a broader period, Michigan fares better and now, after renovations, a PDC, and a good coach, times are a changing.
"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt
Have you been
Have you been in a coma since 1999? You will be very hardpressed to come up with more than a handful of schools who have had more basketball success than MSU over the past 10-12 years.
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Early 2000s MSU was great. I think most would agree that they have regressed over the past 4-5 years.
They only have one outright (and one shared) Big Ten title in the past ten years. It's not like they are dominating
Basically Izzo took advantage of UofMs sanctions and inept coaching in the late 90s and maximized it. They parlayed it into one of the easiest paths to the NCAA title the tournament has seen. After Beilein came to town and Michigan showed a pulse, MSU became a lot less scary
In many ways Izzo under performed when you consider the elite recruits head had versus his rather small list of championships. He gets a lot of credit (rightfully so) for his final fours, but he doesn't get much criticism for the other shortcomings.
I have no problem with him
I have no problem with him doing this. He's always been a classy player, and is just trying to get his team ready for the game in EL
How Do You Like Them Apples
After reading some of his
After reading some of his other post game comments he has lost some of my respect, but he's never been a player to go out of his way and trash the opposition. He always seems to be pretty well spoken, and if I'm remembering correctly he had a blog on ESPN last year which was always a good read.
How Do You Like Them Apples
He is well spoken and
He is well spoken and basketball savvy. My only beef with him (as stated in the Beilein thread) is his CONSTANT whining to the refs. Rewatch tonights game and count how many times he whines after a play. I'd put the over/under at twelve.
Players mirror their coaches.
Players mirror their coaches.
Whatcha gonna do, little brother?
Think I said the same in the
Think I said the same in the Beilein topic too (or at least I was thinking the same). But really, I don't see any other MSU players whining. I actually find most of the other Spartans more likeable than Draymond.
Appling seems like a good kid and is a baller
Nix just seems slow, like a bumbling gentle giant
Payne is good, haven't seen him do anything worth hating
I think Trice will be a thorn in our side for years to come
I just don't like Green.
Not going to go into details
But Appling and Payne aren't great kids...
No details neccessary...
Suffice to say that neither would still be playing basketball at the University of Michigan.
and had charges been filed
and had charges been filed and allegations were true, neither would be playing at Michigan State University either. If Korie Lucious gets dismissed from the team for getting behind the wheel while drunk, you know damn well these 2 guys would be gone for something as heinous as sexual assualt. I've read the police report. It is very graphic. If what the victim is alleging is true, I do wish she came forward and pressed charges, because they shouldn't be able to get away with something like that....if true.
Your friendly neighborhood Sparty
Two things
1) As an FYI, a victim can't simply "press charges" and have those charges automatically exist. A prosecutor has to file those charges (which may also occur against the wishes of the victim). So, the lack of charges in any situation often speaks more to the insufficiency of evidence (in the eyes of the prosecutor), rather than a determination that the alleged criminal is innocent.
2) You're right that there may well be things we don't know about this, and speculation helps no one. As such, I declare this discussion dead.
You are correct. Pardon my
You are correct. Pardon my lack of legal-whimsicalness. From the reports that I have read, 3 different prosecutors read the reports, spoke to the victim, and decided not to press charges.....and the victim agreed as with that stance as well. Of course, this is all heresay based on what's published in various publications. I agree that nothing good will come from speculation. No further comment.
Your friendly neighborhood Sparty
why no details?
just saying...
I don't care who wins, as long as it's Michigan.....
Google
Just search for Appling and Payne accusations. Google is your friend.
Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through
Frank Drebin
would know about criminal activity. Great response.
appling
would do well to know that no means no ... it is sad that he is still allowed to play college basketball
Just Win Baby
Yes. Players DO imitate their coaches.
That is why Green is such a cry baby. I do respect Izzo for the accomplishments of Lil Bro; however, I do not respect the mannor in which he got there.
Did anyone see him crying to the ref last night on the over-and-back? The ball CLEARLY hit the players foot and we did not touch it. So how and why was Izzo crying about it? He is less than 30 feet from the play. How does he not see that?
The answer is that he DID see it but was hoping that he could get the ref to change the call. It was a critical point in the game and he knew it. So how is that class or deserving of respect?
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
Izzo wasn't trying to get
Izzo wasn't trying to get the ref to change that call. He knew he had no case and couldn't even muster up a good outrage. What Izzo was trying to do, (it's irritating as hell), was trying to whine enough to get a future call from the ref.
The reason the ball bounced
The reason the ball bounced to the backcourt was not what he was complaning about. He was complaining about his player never truly having possesion, thus meaning no backcourt violation could be called on him. Regardless, he's a helluva whiner...
I completely agree
By no means is he Kork Coupons...
Me fail English? That's unpossible!
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you
Spartan tears taste ...
you know the rest
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Draymond
Before the game, we were all heckling Green from the student section saying that he averaged six points per game versus Michigan in his career. He turned to the Maize Rage and said "I'm gonna average 30 points tonight!" Needless to say, with seven points, he failed to "average" 30 points tonight...
Believe
Beilein
My current roommate was
My current roommate was Green's math turtor when Green was a freshman, he said Green was the stupidest student he ever taught. I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP, It IS THE TRUTH. P.S. If you guys think Draymond is smart, I do not mind.
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draymond
not to be overly stereotypical, but he is from Saginaw high. I did my student teaching in that school and all the veteran teachers said he wasn't bright. and not to get too personal but I thought his little brother and without getting into to many details he was about as slow as they come. no surprise here.
Negged
"and not to get too personal but I thought his little brother and without getting into to many details he was about as slow as they come. no surprise here."
You are getting way too personal. There is no reason to trash Green's brother.
correct. uneducated does not
correct. uneducated does not equal unintelligent. Draymond Green appears to be an intelligent chap, despite his alleged shortcomings in math
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Crap
A thought
When commenting on the supposed stupidity of another individual, do not lead off with,"My current roommate was Green's math turtor..." Of course, had you spelled 'tutor' correctly, you'd still be posting something that is both pointless and of questionable truthfulness, but you'd look a little less idiotic.
Thanks for keeping us civil
Thanks for keeping us civil Seth9 and the antithesis to RCMB. People, this is Michigan fergodsakes.
I'd like to introduce a new term....IZZNOT
Man Izznot sure likes to bitch to the refs alot, even after his big men kept getting away with bumping our guys at the top of the key on attempted picks by U-M.
Also, hey Draymond, when you score 7 pts in a game that means you averaged 7 pts that night. It's very simple really, since you don't have to divide by more than 1, you take 7pts (which is not 30, btw) and divide that by one, see cause that's how many games you played tonight.
You're welcome Draymond, the brainy one that you are. Now go have a bowl of STFU!!!!
you
should probably tell them to get the *$@& off our court.....
I don't care who wins, as long as it's Michigan.....
He does
and mentions feburary 15th as a date circled on the calendar. Which seems weird to me, how/why the heck did he know that date ahead of time.
It's the 5th. If that was his
It's the 5th. If that was his error, hilarious. If it's yours, forgivable.
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Damn it, im dyslexic.
"Michigan State plays Michigan again on Feb. 5 in East Lansing. Less than 15 minutes after Tuesday night's game ended and Green had missed a potential game-winner with seconds left, he already knew when the teams would play again. "
I also want to apologize to ESPN because at this point that entire post has basically has been copied.
Damn it, im dyslexic.
"Michigan State plays Michigan again on Feb. 5 in East Lansing. Less than 15 minutes after Tuesday night's game ended and Green had missed a potential game-winner with seconds left, he already knew when the teams would play again. "
I also want to apologize to ESPN because at this point that entire post has basically has been copied.
Green did say 5th.
Green did say 5th.
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
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You know those guarantees
You know those guarantees never work...I would take Rasheed's over Draymond's.
P.S. After tonight the most he can get is a lilttle one, and still less than lilttle three.
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Never? Jim Harbaugh and Mike
Never? Jim Harbaugh and Mike Hart would like a word with you.
Harbaugh
has done very well with the 49'ers. However, as one can point out with numerous examples, success on the college or pro side does not always translate to the other side of the equation. Thus, your assertion is pure utter speculation and not well argued or reasoned.
I invite you to make a cogent argument for your thesis, as opposed to the single observation that Harbaugh was a pretty good coach at Stanford and with the 49'ers for 1 year.
After Mike Hart's guarantee
After Mike Hart's guarantee of victory in '07, they were trying to get him to guarantee another victory over Florida at the pep rally for the Cap One bowl. The coaches had clearly talked with Hart and his remarks were very close to the vest. That is, until Shawn Crable grabbed the mic from Hart and shouted "WE'RE GONNA WIIIIIIIIIIIIN!" and started waving a UM flag around. At that point we were all pretty sure that Florida was going to whip us, but that scene and the eventual victory softened my memory of Crable.
totally hot
in that midwestern natural girl sort of way.
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Draymond?
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
I dig midwestern and I dig
I dig midwestern and I dig this woman. I think I'd put her ahead of Charissa Thompsen and Erin Andrews in that order.
Draymond Green still can't get over the fact that MSU no longer owns the state of Michigan. You gotta earn it.