Great Quote from Jaron Dukes's Head Coach on Urban Meyer

I get the feeling that if Meyer doesn't hurry, he'll be offering a Michigan commit.  

I like your interpretation of the quote, and I believe that Urban is watching who we offer. However, I bet he means that Dukes is a great talent, and that other powerhouses are about to catch on, and subsequently offer...

I find this absolutely hilarious that high school coaches are beginning to take notice of this. I doubt it, but i wonder if any athletes take Meyer's recruiting strategy offensive.

* 5-star chess player

Maybe Michigan should offer a bunch of unrated and three star Ohio kids and see if Urban takes the bait.

Obviously, though, Brady Hoke has too much integrity to offer any kid under false pretenses.

Ohio is full of those students who tried to read off the exams of Wolverines, so no big shock that Urban is looking North for the right answers.   After all, he wouldn't want any more marginal players!

This thread is just chalk-full of wit

I think it is a huge reach to call that a criticism. It's more, stating the obvious.

So, I loved the "chalk-full" comment and I thought I would do a little digging.  I am not vouching for the accuracy of this description, but I thought it was interesting:

From:

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/chalkfull.html 

Originally a person or thing stuffed to the point of choking was “choke-full.” In modern speech this expression has become “chock-full,” or in less formal American English, “chuck-full.” Chalk has nothing to do with it.    from   F

I believe the correct way to write it would be chock full.  Honestly, not trying to be an ass.  I am just embracing my inner nerd.

It's a great strategy; I would do the same.  Make every recruit a dog fight.

I agree that it was a bit pedantic.  But I hoped good naturedly so.

for meyer.

We're the leaders and best...Meyer and Ohio State can just follow.  I don't mind them offering our players, its a sign that we're recruiting upper echelon guys.  I for one am looking forward to bringing back the Michigan - OSU battle of old!

    The other thing we were looking for is someone who was an outstanding coach, but outstanding recruiter, someone who understands that in the state of Ohio we're blessed to have great high school football coaches, great high school football coaches who create great programs, who young men have an opportunity to grow in and ultimately dream of the chance to go and play at a collegiate level.

    We wanted a football coach who understood that, who would create the environment here with the aspiration for every single football player in the state of Ohio is to be a Buckeye and come to The Ohio State University and have no other thought.

 

(sic) (at least as transcribed by the Dispatch)

So, how's that mind control going? Chart?

Chart(s)

For comparison:

Same number of state of Ohio recruits going to Michigan or MSU as there are going to osu.  The rest of the Big Ten and other BCS conferences getting a few as well.  Yes, Urban definitely got a quality class, but I do believe the #1 Ohio recruit went Blue.  Along with #'s 5/15/17/22/24/26/57/59 of Ohio (per Rivals state rankings).  Only 13 of the 16 osu recruits show up on Rivals postseason Top 60 in Ohio list.

had me thinking of something more newsworthy...really, what's the big deal with Urban offering guys we do...isn't the objective to try and recruit the best players?

where Alex Kozan is going to end up.

Or it might make the school that needs the recruit feel it has to use more effort to court him. Sort of like bidding up an auction you don't intend to win, to leave a competitor with less cash for one you'd like to compete in.

Meyer is getting a late start to the 2013 class and we're offering high caliber players. There's nothing odd or particularly noteworthy about any of this.

especially about the in-state God/Coach.

But a lot of UM caliber kids are OSU caliber as well, so it's not always because Urban just copies Hoke.

This hasn't really been a bad strategy considering that it's worked.  What I want to know is what makes him such a great recruiter.  Bobby Bowden was very charismatic, Pete Carroll good play up that you can go to school on the beach, be a part of the laid back atmosphere he creaed, oh and have a salary.  WHat is Urban doing?  He hasn't struck me as particularly charismatic from interviews, at least not in a way to stand out.  He must be the biggest liar telling kids everything they want to hear and more. 

But I think this is likely because Hoke and Co. have been in place for a little more than a year..and have had a huge jump on recruiting for 2013.  Meyer is just getting in, and hasn't been around much recently, got his staff together, focused on 2012 and they are just now getting around to next year, where Hoke already has commits and offers out fro next years class. 

Not to say that I wouldn't expect him to do something Urban-like...but it might not be intentionally sinister just yet

I just think it is phenomenal that Michigan is recruiting Columbus City league players now because these players usually end up standing out at Minnesota and Cincinnati. I actually played for Brian Haffele when he called the plays at Walnut Ridge in Columbus under Coach Gary Carter. He took over as heach coach the year after I graduated and sent Gary Russell and Ernie Wheelwright to be All-Big Ten at Minnesota. Coach Haff has been churning out D-1 recruits at Marion-Franklin ever since. For Coach Hoke to get into schools like this, Brookhaven/Desales...heck even Cleveland Glenville. The recruiting wars in Ohio between Hoke and Meyer are gonna be epic for the next decade are gonna be epic.