Kalis and Dunn I would love to steal.
that's unfortunate, but at least the interest is there on both sides
Kalis and Dunn I would love to steal.
Here's my guess for the final spots:
I realize that this assumes a class of 26 and doesn't include a QB.
I am sure that when Hoke said he wanted to take a QB every year he was being sincere and reasonable. However, circumstances have changed in this class because he already has a commit from a potentially elite 2013 player and he has a lot of other spots to fill.
It is widely reported that we will take 4 DB's in this class and Morgan is assumed to be the fourth (hopefully today).
We are expected to take 5 or even 6 O-linemen and 2 or 3 D-tackles.
Chris Wormley is expected to commit soon but I don't think that would stop us from recruiting Adolphus Washington.
With DJ Williamson gone, and four more WRs to graduate this year (not to mention some fifth year slots who may not be back) it seems important to get at least one top WR and probably two.
Finally, I think the staff wants a "manball" RB and Bri'Onte Dunn will be that back.
Because the prospects are there and the staff wants to accelerate the transition I believe that the required spots will open up through a combination of natural attrition and unrenewed fifth years.
This list would absolutely make me the happiest man alive.
May it be so.
That would give us a top 10 class for sure.
Diamond, Magnusson, and Banner (so he can play for Coach Beilein too)
Dunn - I love the taste of snake oil in the morning
Stanford and Burbridge (come on Kaplan Institute)
Pipkins, Wormley, Day, Washington, and O'Brien (for a little more salt in the womb <I shit you not, someone on 24/7 used that verbiage yesterday>)
(I went all SEC and oversigned by one as insurance for someone who may not qualify).
You don't have to oversign to get to 26. We just have to have at least one early enrollee that we can count against the previous class.
First post, can't start a thread so I'll put it here, didn't see it posted elsewhere...
Great interview with Shane Morris had this quote re: Gunner Kiel (don't know how to block quote):
"Q: You were able to work out with Gunner Kiel at the Elite 11 camp recently, a player who also has a Michigan offer and who is considered one of the best uncommitted quarterback prospects in the 2012 class. How did your skills compare to his?
Shane Morris: He is a great kid. Me and him got to know each other pretty well. Right now he has no idea where he is going to go. Gunner is a great quarterback though, he is one of the best I have ever seen. If he ends up coming to Michigan, I would be excited. I wouldn't shy away from competing against him though."
A couple of other highlights:
"Q: There wasn't a little part of you who wanted to have a guy like Lane Kiffin fly you out to Southern California and enjoy the warm weather for a couple of days?
Shane Morris: That didn't matter to me. Sure, being flown out to a place like Hawaii or Stanford would have been cool, but that's just not the kind of person I want to be. I am not in it for the perks. Michigan is where I want to be, so there was no need wasting anybodies time."
Clearly wouldn't fit in at OSU.
"Q: Which school is being the most persistent in keeping in touch with you?
Shane Morris: Michigan State. They were definitely my second choice...but Michigan is where I am going."
Thanks for the post, that was interesting. I really think Morris is the recruit that pisses off Dantonio the most. He really wanted to land him.
We have 14 players so far. I'm going to go out on a limb and say one of the TE is going to end up on the offensive line. With 22 scholarships:
15) DB - Morgan
16) OT - Magnuson
17) OT - Diamond
18) OT - Banner
19) DT - Pipkins
20) DT - Day
21/22) WR/DE - Burbidge/Wormley or Stanford/Washington
If we take it up to 25 total:
21/22/23/24) WR/DE - Burbidge/Wormley AND Stanford/Washington
25) First to commit between DE - Shittu, OL - Garnett, OL - Kalis, or somehow another elite player like Kiel, Green-Beckham, etc.
It's who I want right? Not who I think we'll get?
QB (if we get one): Kiel
OL: Magnuson, Banner, Garnett, Diamond
DT: Day, Pipkins (Jarron Jones would be nice, but let's wait til his visit...Jaleel Johnson can also be tossed in here)
DE: Wormley, Washington
S: Morgan or Wilson
I'm trying to restrict my numbers, but the OL...those are the four guys I want. I also want to turn Dunn blue. Those are my priorities.
Noob question: If we over recruit, is it morally reprehensible to kick off an upper classmen who isn't pulling their weight and give that scholarship to the new recruit? Also is it morally reprehensible to kick off a 3 star income freshmen?
I think the latter is called grey shirting, right? I know that is bad.
We can't and won't boot an underclassmen. The conference doesn't allow it and I'm pretty sure, the school, fanbase and coaches would all be against it anyway. If a kid signs with us, he's guaranteed four years provided he's in good academic, and disciplinary standing.
Where we might end up having to make room is by not giving redshirt juniors a 5th year. It feels a little scummy, but it's different then cutting a kid after 1 or 2 years because a) he was never guaranteed a 5th year and b) that redshirt junior has been in class for four years and earned a degree. It's not like he's leaving empty-handed.
I don't like the idea of not renewing redshirt juniors for a 5th year. But I'm coming around to the fact that with the apparent size of the class the coaches are recruiting, it's inevitably going to happen.
Another important factor at least for me as for who I want is not necessarily who is the highest rated prospect, but what schools we would be taking away from if they committed to Michigan. I know the wording sounds weird, but what I mean is I would rather have Kalis than Banner or Garnett (assuming they don't go to TSIO) because not only would we get him, it would take away from TSIO. That being said, I would love to have Kalis, Washington, Stanford, Dunn, Wormley, Diamond, and any others that have a realistic chance of going to TSIO. I'm not saying this is the only factor, but it is a great factor just to consider.
In addition to the 14 we have so far this is how I think things will shake out.
15- OL Magnuson
16- OL Diamond
17- OL Thurston
18- QB Appleby/O'Connor
19- WR Stanford/Burbridge
20- DL Washington/Wormley
21- DL Jones/Pipkin/Day
22- DL mystery late add type
I actually think Morgan may be a lost cause as he seems to be getting a lot of pressure to take more time and given the current and projected manning in the backfield I doubt it works out in Michigan's favor which is a shame. I also think given the high competition for DT's that we get one of the Day/ Pipkins/Jones group but not more than that. I also don't see multiple WR or SDE commits. We're
Not getting Gunner IMHO but I think Appleby or O'Connor finds himself in a winged helmet. Again given the competition for DL and the need for them I think a guy who's not on the radar ends up filling out the class.
I believe that this is a more realistic look at the remaining spots for the class. We are going to take a QB and I would say we get wormely which would make washington the late addition.
Dorial Green-Beckham. We need receivers next season because 3 are leaving next year.