Great article on the OSU mess from FoxSports Ohio

but not OT

what makes this whole situation better is the ol' sweater vest has the awful book out now that constantly talks about how tsio does it the right way.

The Buckeye hate is coming down on his head very soon, if it's not already.

"Similarly, Tressel’s sterling 9-1 record against Michigan would be a middling 5-5 mark if adjusted to reverse games won with headline players (Clarett in 2002, Troy Smith in 2004, Terrelle Pryor in 2009 and 2010) who were in violation of NCAA rules at kickoff of those games against the Wolverines."

I know we'll never know what would have happened, but this statement just pisses me off to no end.  

I wonder if the radio station that fired Hooley for his "anti-Tressel statements" two months ago had any idea what they were unleashing on their beloved Buckeyes?

Every article Hooley has written on this subject has been spot on. And it truly is stunning that the power brokers at OSU still somehow believe that keeping Tressel is a net positive. As Hooley points out, OSU has become a national laughingstock. What Tressel and the players did was wrong, but by merely slapping Tressel on the wrist with a 2-gameday suspension and a fine that did not even equal his performance bonuses last year, the institution is damaging its "brand" in a much more serious and permanent way.

"The clear message Ohio State is sending by retaining Tressel, despite the lying Ohio State admits he engaged in, is that winning — even if it requires cheating — is preferable to playing by the rules."

Amen!

That no matter what happens, tOSU administration would rather go down with the ship than cut the anchor loose. That can't look good to the NCAA. But, knowing the NCAA's appetite for clubbing a high profile program (none) I don't expect much of anything from that group but a lot of hot air.

I used to want us to be the ones to knock them off their pedistal, not the NCAA.  Not anymore.  As new revelations roll in almost daily and Smith and Gee refuse to even slightly retract their support for Tressel I now see that the whole institution is crooked.  

"The clear message Ohio State is sending by retaining Tressel, despite the lying Ohio State admits he engaged in, is that winning — even if it requires cheating — is preferable to playing by the rules."

Burn 'em to the ground!

This story is why I want to beat them so badly whether Tressel is the coach, or not.  I don't have one bit of respect for his resume.  Everything this man has accomplished is tainted with the stain of cheating.  He is a liar, a cheat, and a complete phony.  I lack even the smallest amount of respect for this man (which I hesitate to even call him one.  A man has dignity). 

"The probability that we may fall in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just." -Abraham Lincoln

This is the quote I always tell my students about doing the right thing. I think it applies to the Athletic programs in this country that refuse to  hold them selves to a higher standard. As I've stated before, I'd rather finish 0-13 and running my program the right way. What message are we sending High School players across the country? I'm truly worried about the state of this game that I love dearly.

There's a famous moment in English history, in which St. Thomas More is speaking with Cardinal Wolsey. The Cardinal tells Sir Thomas that a "man must some times dirty his hands with iniquity to serve the greater good." Sir Thomas being a man of impeccable morals, dipped his hands into a nearby bucket of water and said "I deal with the spiritual element, it wants not for corruption, and never leaves a mark." Granted, in a business like College Football has become, morals would appear to be few and far between.

I'm starting to wonder if my doubts that anything major would happen to OSU were wrong.  I know that usually the big money makers don't get hit that hard, but with the national coverage of this thing, and how dirt keeps coming out, it seems the NCAA may be forced to come down hard.  They have said of late they want to get tougher, and they denied USC's appeal, so maybe some tangible punishments will come of this.  Although I still feel that OSU may just be setting up Tressel as a fall guy and kick him to the curb once everything is out to lighten their penalty.

Gee's office. I give him a week. 

I work with a couple of tsio wonks who have let me have it for the last few years, it is nice to see them sweat now and avert their eyes when I walk by (insert smily face here)

Sooner or later, this is what will stick a fork in Tressel. Hooley has bluntly called out the administration and the board: Just what sort of purported legitimate academic institution stands for this sort of behavior?  Herbstreit and Spielman get it.  It's amazing the people who run the joint haven't figured it out.

I bet they retain Tressel because he's solid gold in Columbus but fire everyone else around the program because they are expendable and didn't do what they were supposed to do, perform a successful cover-up

...is the amount of attrition that occurs as a result of NCAA actions.

My guess is every Jr and sr somehow transfers into auburn. They seem to always have room for free agents

C - bus. It might be JT's contract. Dang tOsu coaching out clauses!!

I am getting the feeling that the major jist of the SI story is going to be a comprehensive look at the misconduct that has been committed up to this date and the possible consequences of those actions. We are all phsycing ourselves up for some big revelation that will finely blow the lid on this barrel but I dont think we are going to get what we want.

And really, even with another big bombshell I cant imagine that THE Ohio State University would quit now. I mean if they have stuck to there guns for this long then why stop now? Why give them the satisfaction? This is just terrible for college football and I am so very glad that I am a fan of a school that has a much better defined sense of integrity, honesty, and sportsmanship.

Does it seem to anyone else like the way that Tressel weaseled the game suspension later in order to let the TatGate 5 play in the bowl game is likely to cause the NCAA to stick it to them even worse? To me, it makes it seem more like they are thumbing their noses at the rules. At the exact time that Tressel needs the NCAA's support, I'd think that would make them even more antagonistic towards him. Kind of a, "we worked with you and trusted you, and you burned us" thing. . . .

These guys can help you out hahahaha

http://sportsrings.net/home.php

This article sounds like it was written by a Ohio version of Drew Sharp. While both Tressel and OSU deserve all the crap they're getting for how dirty the program has been, the article includes multiple fallacies (such as saying that Tressel's record against Michigan to 5-5 because they would have lost without certain players who should have been inelligible), fails to even acknowledge arguments in favor of the university on things like Maurice Clarrett's allegations against the school, and simply tries to be as inflammatory as possible.

While the author of the article in the OP has questionable motivations, here is what appears to be a neutral observer coming to the same conclusions.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_ohio_state_needs_to_get_serious_052611

More of the drumbeat.  I can't imagine Gee and Smith survive this.  Gee has become the posterchild for the school administrator being corrupted by the sports program.