Or in the whole country?
to play football, not to play trumpet
Or in the whole country?
Matta no. I know we hate guy u know Ohio the rivalry n all but he's actually not such bad guy usually keeps his cool on the sideline n he's a real good coach. I would say izzo maybe.
Bobby knight definitely!!! If he were still throwing chairs that is
Our country needs more men like Bobby Knight; keeps us from getting soft. Keeps people like Craig James from taking over. He and Leach are A-OK in my book.
Starting? Dude is faker than a Notre Dame girlfriend. He still has more insight than most real people on here.
slightly terrified of Herm.
You think I'm soft? Six, er, I mean five hookers would allegedly beg to differ. Leach is lucky I didn't allegedly snap his neck too!
Bobby Knight is a bitter old man and a hypocrite of the highest order. It's fine to humiliate your players while you're supposedly trying to instill integrity and leadership in them if you practice what you preach. But interviewing for a job that isn't vacant, suing your former employer for "emotional distress" after they fired you for your millionth angry outburst, physically assaulting your players, quitting in the middle of a season, and throwing a temper tantrum in response to the smallest perceived slight hardly smacks of integrity or leadership. The B1G and college basketball are better off without him.
Would disagree with you. I went high School with Neil Reed and everyone wanted to choke him. The General was old school and that doesn't work with the kids these days.
There is a reason all those 5 stars flocked to OSU when he got there even after OSU was put on probation for cheating under Jim O'Brien.
Weren't most of the guys from the big class from Ohio?
Conley Jr and Oden were from Indiana, IIRC.
Indiana: Conley Jr, Oden, Thomas
Ohio: Mullens, Sully, Cook , Buford, Koufus
Not exactly sure where the injustice is in getting three 5 star players from Indiana....
But you can't automatically assume that just because a guy is local that everything is on the up-and-up, either. Three of the four guys that were found guilty of taking money from Ed Martin (Chris Webber, Robert Traylor and Maurice Taylor) were from Detroit, which has sent us athletes forever.
The main thing about Matta that has to raise eyebrows IMO is that he was able to come in and quickly recruit at a higher level than Jim O'Brien had. In this sport, with the AAU meat market and such, to be known as an ace recruiter is to invite suspicion.
Jim O'Brien was a lazy and poor recruiter.
I don't really understand your argument. If you're a good recruiter, you cheat. If you're a bad recruiter, you suck?
Matta has gotten some, but certainly not all, of the good talent in Ohio. He has also gotten some of the talent in Indiana while Indiana basketball was a mess.
Are you suspicious of Hoke because he quickly came in and recruited at a higher level than RichRod?
I think the argument is that the basketball recruiting scene has become a corrupt cesspool (to a greater degree than football), with sleazy AAU coaches, street agents and whatnot, that if you're reeling in tons of stars, you must be willing to bend/break the rules. Would anyone be shocked if Calipari's program got nailed?
BTW, how do you know that O'Brien was a "lazy" recruiter? He actually paid a recruit out of his own pocket . . . that sounds like pretty proactive behavior on his part.
Saying he paid a recruit is unfair. He lent Alex Radejovic's family money to pay for funeral expenses for the father who died in war torn Yugoslavia. This was after he was ruled inelgible to play in college.
O'Brien claimed Ohio State improperly fired him and sued the university for $3.5 million in lost wages and benefits. O'Brien argued his loan did not violate NCAA bylaws because he knew Radojevic already had lost his amateur status by playing for money overseas. At trial, Geiger, NCAA lead investigator Steve Duffin both testified that O'Brien made the loan for humanitarian reasons, not as an inducement to get Radojevic to sign with Ohio State. NCAA infractions committee chairman David Swank testified that O'Brien's actions did not violate NCAA rules. A judge found Ohio State had breached the contract and awarded O'Brien $2.4 million. The award was upheld on appeal to the Ohio Court of Appeals and Ohio Supreme Court.
I really do think Bo Ryan is part Badger. It's creepy.
Edit: He's also apparently an evil wizard.
As a Google search on "Bo Ryan looks like . . ." reveals, I'm not the first to point this out:
Dude's heart is two sizes too small.
He is an ass.
But Fuck Tom Izzo even harder
those are some great preferences.
I disagree with one of your premises: I would most definitely chant "fuck thad matta."
fly downcourt and peck ya.
Let it go gray, Fred Flintstone, you're getting old...
Shouldn't that dude behnd Crean have a thought bubble that reads "Don't get caught watching the paint dry, fellas!"
Also this gets me thinking... A lot of big ten coaches have three syllable names that fit this. The four you mentioned, for starters. Not tubby smith, I guess, since it would sound awkward if emphasized in the same way as that chant. Tom Crean fits too.
For Smith, it could be modified to "F*ck you, Tubby."
(He's probably not hateable enough to warrant it, though.)
He seems like a colossal d-bag.
wondering how in the hell this same team shot so well against us
Every team shoots great against us. Has to do with our defense, but we have to learn how to play with the bulls eye on our backs.
...what's going on there while staring?
He's pulling off the turtle. He's tough. He's a Man.
It looks like someone just told him "XYZ, Coach!"
This is certainly OT, and certainly should NOT be filed under "Football"
I think it's almost a tradition to chant that at Minny. There's a YouTube clip of a game a couple years back and it was the most audible "Fuck" I've ever heard on TV
At least Tubby Smith is likeable
Least likeable to most:
Izzo (the whining, the ref working)
Crean (this guy could turn into a monster)
Groce (I think this guy has smug troll potential once he's winning)
Matta (he's made a few snarky comments over the years)
Painter (I respected his reasonable take on the Manny Harris incident a few yrs back)
McCaffrey (his own players probably rank him higher)
Dudes who coach PSU/Braska (?)
Carmody (baffled, beleagured, sad, defeated, seems like a decent guy)
Beilein ("John Beilein is a saint!")
His vinegar strokes?
EDIT: Damn, meant under the Tom Crean GIF.
factors considered include team playing style, sideline antics, recruiting tactics, general douchebaggery (weighed heaviest)
1 bo ryan
2 tom crean
3 tom izzo
4 fran mccafrey
5 thad matta
6 jon groce
7 matt painter
9 tim miles
10 penn st coach
EDIT: posted near exact same time as above poster and our rankings are pretty close to same.
Bo Ryan and Brett Bielima were a match made in hell.
With that said. Tom Izzo is probably the most hated, but part of that is because he wins. Bo Ryan would be hated more if he didn't win with a bunch of farm kids.
All in all, I don't mind either of them compared to their football counterparts. Dantonio is a douche and Bielima, my god that guy was an ass. Pelini is right there with them.
As for Ohio. I hate them, but I respect Matta and Meyer. Matta is underrated as a coach and gets shit cause of his reactions (which are funny)...but I know him a little bit and he's a good guy. I don't really think any of his players have been untolerable either. Sullinger, Thomas, Craft, Oden, Conley...they all were/are fine by me. I hate them, but if they went to Michigan...I'd love them. Guys like Will Gholston I'd want no part of at Michigan. As for Meyer, I hate him more than Matta...but I respect the guy cause he wins. Period. He's just really good at what he does...I just wish he did it in the NFL or something.
Last thought...I honestly think MICHIGAN has two of the more "unhated" or respected head coaches in college athletics. I'd actually say we're #1 in the country. Ohio fans hate Hoke cause he says Ohio...but really I don't think they hate him as a person. They just call him overweight. No one hates Beilein, no one. He's like Greg Mattison, the cool, but wise grandfather that everyone loves.
and he could not have been nicer or more engaging in a situation that was of no benefit to him. Just seemed like a naturally decent fellow, but who knows.
I can say I certainly hate watching his teams play basketball.
Set phasers to "cool story brah"
Nice try Bo Ryan
Bo Ryan is far and away my least favorite Big Ten coach, he always has been since he was brought to Madison. I consider him the Dantonio of basketball: a miserable, unhappy old man with no friends, and anger issues so bad that he's one blow up away from a major heart attack (I don't mean that as a joke, I'm seriously concerned about the guys' health). Basically, he's a person that's hard to like even if he's coaching your team.
However, coach K is my least favorite overall. I hate Duke, and I hate coach K and his raven black helmet hair. What the hell is up with your hair Mike, it ain't natural looking!
I think there's a few guys in the country that don't like this guy either, but I think he's awesome:
He is an absolute douche and a shitty person. I'm a student a Georgetown and his antics on the sidelines are insufferable. I've never seen a coach walk to halfcourt, get T'd up, then bitch about it like a 5 year old. Plus, my friend writes for the Georgetown Men's Basketball Team, and he shared a story about Buzz. Apparently, he has a weird love-hate dichotomy with Dana O'Neil, so at the post-game press conference, he winked at her and said something like, "What's up sweetheart?" She just kind of stared back at him in awe. When his interview was finally over, she curtly got up and said, "What a dick, I mean he's the worst kind of person." Long story short, Marquette somehow is really good at producing hated coaches.
Crean is Number One with a bullet. OSU has seen more of his douchey antics over the past few years, but I'm sure Michigan will be on the end of them soon. The wife-hugging? The bowing to the student section? All of the "look at me" antics? The handshake blow-bys when he loses? Ugh...and the man goes tanning!
Don't forget about Tom Crean and his annoying clapping after every play.
Crean will soon pass Vanna White in the Guinness World Record Book for the number of times clapping on national television.
How does a guy like Calipari not get named? He has basically ruined college basketball. He has cheated literally everywhere he has been and has left a wake of NCAA violations for schools to deal with. I hate him far more than I hate Bo Ryan. Bo Ryan is just an asshole. Cal is a cheating, pretentious attention whore.
Northwestern student section chanting: "Hoosier daddy" when Indiana was in town. Apparently a IU player knocked up his girlfriend. Bobby Knight was pissed(!!) and finger-in-the-face lectured the NW coach after the final buzzer.