Per Sam Webb, among others, on twitter, straight from Hoke's mouth.
Here's Brian's write-up on Tamani Carter.
yes plz
Goodbye: Tamani Carter
August 12th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
#1
Goodbye: Tamani Carter
August 12th, 2012 at 11:24 AM | 
Obligatory:
Obligatory:
August 12th, 2012 at 11:26 AM |
It gives us another
It gives us another
It gives us another
August 12th, 2012 at 12:43 PM |
LM III?
LM III?
does this open the door for Leon McQuay?
August 12th, 2012 at 12:50 PM |
Yep.
Yep.
Kendall Fuller and Vernon Hargreaves III too. Huge break for us.
Except for the other thing. That hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most.
August 12th, 2012 at 1:03 PM |
Dick.
Dick.
Dick.
Bring back Keith Jackson
August 12th, 2012 at 2:33 PM |
Dick?
Dick?
More like reality.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:15 AM |
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Being a dick & realistic are not mutually exclusive. It is realistics, but calling someone leaving the team a huge "win" is harsh, even if it opens a slot for a top of the line recruit. That being said I see where this can lead to a huge opportunity.
"Urban Meyer has really put a strong wall of recruitment around the state of Ohio. No leaks anywhere." -Nobody
August 13th, 2012 at 6:19 AM |
naw, think hargreaves is
naw, think hargreaves is
naw, think hargreaves is still out due to the numbers at his position. he needs to have an opening at lb to get a scholie.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:27 AM |
Not sure it would.
Not sure it would.
We have 23 committed and can only accept two more regardless. Could be wrong though. Thought the big ten created a rule you could only sign 25 max a year.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:47 AM |
Not so fast my friend
Not so fast my friend
You can back date up to three scholarships to the year before if they are early enrollees as long as the previous year didn't hit 25. Michigan had 25 scholarships handed out in 2012 (with 3 early enrollees) and 20 in 2011. This is important because Michigan can back date the three early enrollees from this past spring (Wilson, Ringer, Bolden) on to the 2011 class. This gives the 2012 class 22. We could now take up to 28 if we had three early entrants and we had the scholarship room to do so. I believe Ross wants to be an early enrollee and there may be a couple more as well.
Tradition is something you can't bottle. But it is there to sustain you when you need it most. I've called upon it time and time again.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:05 PM |
Are EE automatically backdated?
Are EE automatically backdated?
Our is that an option too?
August 12th, 2012 at 1:26 PM |
not necessarily, the school
not necessarily, the school
not necessarily, the school uses it whichever way they need it and can back-date, more of a fluid or changeable situation actually..
similar to taking a tax deduction completed before april 15. you can use it in the previous year if you didn’t have enough, or the present year. whichever works best for you.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:47 AM |
We could accept up to 28, if
We could accept up to 28, if
We could accept up to 28, if we had three early enrollees and were still within the 85 overall limit.. That would be the absolute max. Chance are the 85 overall will be the deciding factor on how big this class could be.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:31 AM |
puts us at 22
puts us at 22
puts us at 22
August 12th, 2012 at 11:27 AM |
Sad end to a strange saga.
Sad end to a strange saga.
Sad end to a strange saga.
Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords.
-Pompeius Magnus
August 12th, 2012 at 11:29 AM |
elaborate
elaborate
please
August 12th, 2012 at 11:28 AM |
Is Levenberry back in the
Is Levenberry back in the
Is Levenberry back in the crosshairs now, or has that passed?
August 12th, 2012 at 5:39 PM |
You really want another LB?
You really want another LB?
Another lb, seriously.
August 12th, 2012 at 10:19 PM |
Well it seems that the Mcquay
Well it seems that the Mcquay
Well it seems that the Mcquay situation isn't as bright as it was previously, and although we have plenty of linebackers, Levenberry is top 20 talent and has opened himself up to recruiting again. Who do you suggest besides Green and Treadwell?
August 12th, 2012 at 11:33 AM |
Apparently Fitz and Clark
Apparently Fitz and Clark
Apparently Fitz and Clark will be back at practice this week, so that'a good sign that Clark isn't gone at least.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:44 AM |
Where did you read/hear that?
Where did you read/hear that?
Where did you read/hear that?
August 12th, 2012 at 11:48 AM |
Hoke presser at Media Day
Hoke presser at Media Day
Hoke presser at Media Day this morning
August 12th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
Oh sure...you're going to
Oh sure...you're going to
Oh sure...you're going to take HIS word for it and repeat it like it's fact?
August 12th, 2012 at 12:15 PM |
AA.com link
AA.com link
http://annarbor.com/sports/um-football/suspended-michigan-players-fitz-t...
Not the horse's mouth (maybe another part of the anatomy), but a reasonable source nonetheless.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:52 PM |
Not everything has to have a
Not everything has to have a
Not everything has to have a /s next to it.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
August 12th, 2012 at 12:57 PM |
Apparently it does.
/s
Apparently it does.
/s
Apparently it does.
/s
August 12th, 2012 at 1:20 PM |
Are you being sarcastic?
Are you being sarcastic?
/s
August 12th, 2012 at 7:34 PM |
I will believe it...
I will believe it...
...when I read it in the Free Press.
As a matter of fact I like beer.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:36 AM |
May add another...
May add another...
We may be able to get another spot. If you have early enrollees, you can take up to 28 (3 early)
neoavatara.com/blog
August 12th, 2012 at 11:40 AM |
We took 25 last year though,
We took 25 last year though,
We took 25 last year though, so I'm not sure you can backdate to that year if that class was full.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
The three early early
The three early early
The three early early enrolles from the 2012 class could be backdated to 2011, I believe.
Tradition is something you can't bottle. But it is there to sustain you when you need it most. I've called upon it time and time again.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
That 25 number assumes we
That 25 number assumes we
That 25 number assumes we didn't backdate any of our EEs last year, though, which really would be pretty silly.
Galileo was also chastised.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:02 PM |
We only had 20 in 2011.
We only had 20 in 2011.
We only had 20 in 2011. Backdating the three EE from 2012 shouldn't be a problem.
Tradition is something you can't bottle. But it is there to sustain you when you need it most. I've called upon it time and time again.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:23 PM |
Scholarship limits
Scholarship limits
I thought we were running against the 85 total scholarships limit, not the 25 per year limit. Backdating wouldn't help that at all.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:28 PM |
Well we were already looking
Well we were already looking
Well we were already looking at a class of 25 for 2013 so any additional scholarships are constrained by both the total and yearly limits.
Galileo was also chastised.
August 12th, 2012 at 11:43 AM |
Who?
Who?
?
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August 12th, 2012 at 11:49 AM |
Read Brian's write-up
Read Brian's write-up
Hilarious how all of the apologists write excuses for the kid in the thread. I couldn't quit laughing, because the same people would have hammered this kid if he went to ND, ohiblow, etc,. He is too small, slow and a bad signing. Ahhh, but I would be a hypocrite for saying I have never had my maize glasses on high power. Just a funny observation for me. God bless and go blue!
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August 12th, 2012 at 12:10 PM |
What?
What?
What?
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
August 12th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
sad to see him leaving. he
sad to see him leaving. he
sad to see him leaving. he added some good depth. good luck to him.
Vice.com
August 12th, 2012 at 11:51 AM |
Seemed like a good kid, just
Seemed like a good kid, just
Seemed like a good kid, just wasn't getting closer to ever playing with all the young safeties coming in. Hope he finds a better fit and has a good life. Good luck, Tamani.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:14 PM |
"Never Forget"
"Never Forget"
"Never Forget"
Formerly known as PahokeePahokee
August 12th, 2012 at 12:17 PM |
numbers
numbers
In case anyone is curious, 30% of the 2011 class (http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/mi...) is gone after only one year:
Barnett, Brown, Carter, Jones, Posada, Rock
Various reasons, as usual ... also, not too surprising given the circumstances (coaching change, timing, etc.).
Even crazier, 44% of the 2010 class (http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/commitments/2010/mi...) is somewhere else after two years:
Christian, Dorsey, Johnson, Jones, Kinard, Pace, Rogers, Talbott x 2, Vinopal, White, Williamson
For the sake of comparison, 2009 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/commitments/2009/mi...) has lost 36% of its members after three years:
Bell, Emilien, Forcier, Jones, LaLota, Stokes, Turner, Witty
Gonna be a few holes in the upperclass ranks in a couple of years ...
"500 channels and nothing but cats."
August 12th, 2012 at 12:24 PM |
If Team 132 is any
If Team 132 is any
If Team 132 is any indication, we're very fortunate that those who stayed have grown into the type of leaders and players to mitigate the numbers problem. I expect more of the same from the seniors of Team 133 and 134 who were a part of the coaching transition and learned under the leadership of Martin, Molk, RVB, Junior, Kovacs, etc.
Denard is my homeboy.
University of Michigan Class of 2014
August 12th, 2012 at 12:26 PM |
I don't really think that's
I don't really think that's
I don't really think that's too uncommon from a high level BCS school. Maybe the percentage is a bit high, but I wonder what types of numbers you would see from a school like OSU or Texas.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:26 PM |
Roundtree had surgery on his
Roundtree had surgery on his
Roundtree had surgery on his knee but should b ready to go for bama
August 12th, 2012 at 12:34 PM |
I don't think Dorsey is in
I don't think Dorsey is in
I don't think Dorsey is in the same attrition category; he never advanced beyond "prospect" as he was never admitted. In fact no decision was ever made; it is widely assumed/reported that he was "denied" but that's not true. His candidacy ended before his application was ever completed.
Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
August 12th, 2012 at 12:40 PM |
He did sign a LOI. Down in
He did sign a LOI. Down in
He did sign a LOI. Down in SEC country at schools like Ole Miss it's not uncommon to see a handful of guys not qualify academically after signing letters of intent. It seems rare to us because Michigan rarely goes after guys that are risks to not qualify (see: Aaron Burbridge).
Denard is my homeboy.
University of Michigan Class of 2014
August 12th, 2012 at 12:44 PM |
Good info
Good info
Interesting but I think the circumstances are different. The 2009 and 2010 defections were more damaging because they included some of the more talented prospects in each class.
The players who've left from 2011 were all fairly low rated and have more talented prospects in the 2012 and 2013 classes replacing them. Arguably, Barnett is the only one who really would have been in contention for a slot on the two deep in the forseeable future.
A shame it didn't work out and hope they all find success elsewhere, but I think this is potentially a positive from an overall roster management perspective.
August 12th, 2012 at 7:52 PM |
Barnett
Barnett
Agreed, and even Barnett had some injury issues, if I recall correctly.
August 12th, 2012 at 1:04 PM |
Wow, that is a problem.
Wow, that is a problem.
I knew the attrition was a tad high, but to see the numbers is amazing actually. And contrary to another poster, those numbers are high for BCS programs. There are understandable reasons as you said, but this will defintely hurt depth soon, or at least, veteran depth.
"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite."
How does this affect the scholarships for this recruiting class?
"I tried to but a pencil in the light socket but it was too wide and didn't fit so I used a paperclip."-Terrelle Pryor, Future Rhodes Scholar