We need a stud receiver or two in this class. I'd love to see him in a winged helmet. Thanks Brian
We need a stud receiver or two in this class. I'd love to see him in a winged helmet. Thanks Brian
Couldn't agree more. As always with recruits, I hope he comes in and performs up to the hype. It'd be great to have a big physical game changer on the outside.
Also, how'd Brian get so many points, does he post on here a bunch or something? /s
but I think he gets like 50 points for every front page post he makes.
Could you remove just a little more than the hat? You know, for your adoring fans?
Ace hat >>> Ass hat
This is great! I have liked his play from the day we first heard about him. He looks like a technically sound receiver from my untrained eyes.
Got your ninja suit on tonight I see.
Thanks for the good news.
needs moar cryptic.
That is awesome news. Now on the flip side, there have been some pretty good sources saying that we've cooled on O'Brien and he is all but assuredly choosing Tennessee on the 6th. I guess that means we have room for Darboh too?
2 WRs was probably going to happen anyway. No O'Brien probably means more that we have room for Wright and/or Dunn.
Good points. I like Yuri Wright and hope he goes Blue. I think we'd find room for Dunn with a nice firm handshake to Mike Cox after this year. #noiwillnotmakeacoxjoke
they offer a firm hand shake to....OOOOO you mean they are gonna shake his firm hand.
Can you link these sources? It seems strange that this staff would allow an in-state like this to get away, doesn't it? With all they have talked about instate importance, and with our needs at D-line...
Mostly just stuff I hear around the interwebz from insiderz and stuff. I'm not trying to fan and rumor flames or anything, just thought I'd pose a recruiting question in a recruiting themed thread as opposed to starting something new. We'll all find out for sure with regards to O'Brien in a couple of weeks. I find it odd that we'd take a pass on a player at a position of need, but I'm not our coaches.
from Sam Webb or someone who got it from Sam Webb.
Hopes elevating. Guard lowering.
Yes! Now here's a gif.
who is on WTKA every Thursday morning?
listening to the podcast .. it was just a joke.
Wow, some people here need to lighten up.
feel about Payton's skills compared to say, Burbridge.
Fantastic, if not equal ball skills, and slightly less speed.
I picture him as sort of the Junior Hemingway mold. Won't blow you away with speed, but will catch 98% percent of the balls that are thrown his way. Jordan Payton will be a very, VERY big pickup for us.
Jordan Payton is also beefier and lot more physical than Burbridge. Darboh is more like Burbridge. Both are Stonum type receivers. Hemingway or Avant are better comparisons for Payton. Don't let that mean Payton is less than Burbridge, he's still very good.
If comparing someone to Avant is an insult, you can call me Miles Davis. Me and my buddies were just comparing Hemingway to Avant, and to add Payton into this conversation with those two just makes me that more excited.
I agree with you, Jasan Avant is one of the most underrated receivers we've ever had. He had to share the spotlight with a few other future NFL WRs while he was here, so he often doesn't get the credit he deserves.
And I'm not saying Payton will be as good as Avant, but he could be. He's just more of that kind of player.
Avant's 1-handed stab against NW was one of the best catches I'e seen.p
probably more possession-y. Still a very good prospect.
Darboh is viewed as more of a big play receiver.
Rivals: Payton #18 WR, Burbridge #20 WR
Scout: Payton #12 WR, Burbridge #16 WR
24/7: Payton #26 WR, Burbridge #8 WR
ESPN: Payton #25 WR, Burbridge #38 WR
They're both excellent prospect (4 stars on all sites), and Payton seems to have fewer academic questions. Be happy if this happens.
about the ratings and stuff. Was curious about the overall skill sets though. I hadn't seen his ESPN and 24/7 rankings though. Interesting to see how players rate when put up against that many sets of ratings.
in this particular case. Burbridge has serious grade issues, which can impact what teams offer.
That problem seems done with, don't you think?
That said, most of our commits, minus a few, have very nice offer sheets. If anything, it helps to know, when we lose a nice instate talent like Burbridge, that we have the option to get one that's just as good.
It looks to be cleared up now, but Burbridge went right from "iffy grades" to "committed" with a whole lot of "probably won't leave the state" in there as well. If Burbridge had waited on his commitment, not had grade issues, and shown more interest in schools across the country, he may have picked up more of the big national names outside the midwest.
That said, their offer lists aren't even that different. They both have UM and ND, so that's a wash. Payton has USC, Burbridge has OSU, that's a wash. Payton has a couple more elite offers, but if you're able to get the cream of the crop from your region, and Burbridge has, offer lists are hard to compare. For example - if one recruit had offers from Florida, Florida State and Alabama, and another recruit had Florida, Florida State, Alabama, Oklahoma and Michigan, are they really that different?
Oklahoma and Florida stick out too much.
And to be honest, you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to get into Oklahoma .. heck, Larry Holmes could probably get into Oklahoma.
Larry Holmes reference...nice. Easton, PA in the house!
I thought there were people on here "in the know" who were skeptical of Payton. Someone had said he was given his high ranking and offers based on his performance as a freshman and that he hadn't developed as well as people expected him to. I know lots of people here were a lot higher on Darboh and the other WR targets.
I don't know if I'm "in the know" but there is truth to both of your statements. I am higher on Darboh than Payton, and Payton has been underperforming based on what was expected of him as a freshman. That said, it's not enough to not be excited about his commitment.
After Payton's freshman and soph years, people thought he'd be a top-5 receiver nationally, and a top 30-50 player overall. Instead, he's a top 15-20 receiver nationally and a top 150ish player overall. Yes, that's below where people thought he'd be as a senior. But it's still a very good player we'd be happy with.
That's good to hear. We do need some big posession receivers and I'm so in favor of us bringing in Payton and the Darboh. Although I would rather have another DT cuz DTs need a year to just eat and lift while WRs can just step in right away. If you need evidence of this flash back to the '05 PSU team where 4 true frosh stepped in at WR and torched everyone in the Big Ten except UM. Well I just got back from the Blue Lep and I'm drunk so forgive my ignorance but i gotta get up at 9:30 to meet some friends at Peirpont at 10:30. Hope we get there on time. GOOO BLUUUUUEEEEE YAAAHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Payton is from California. We need Sparty to help us with the whole national recruiting or we won't get this kid!!!
that we're as national as Sparty.
And I havent seen very much film on either but it's very hard to compare these two players. Rivals has payton listed at 6'2, 199 with 4.49 speed and other sites have listed his hands as a major strength, he is a possession receiver at the next level. Burbridge is the exact opposite of that, he is smaller in height and weight and is faster, making him a downfield target at the next level. If I had to choose it would be difficult, but I would lean towards payton because of burbridge's grade issues.
he's quite that big
paytons probably more tested than burbridge since he's playing in California, competition level is higher. payton seems like a braylon Edwards, he'll be a great route runner with good hands who will go up and get it. where as burbridge is like a desmond fast and explosive. they both would be great to have, but I like payton. he's fast enough, and has the size, o hope he's like a micheal Floyd if he commits to us.
Is that you?
that's what she said.
Who? Marlee Matlin?
Whew. I saw the title and was afraid he was hurt or a tragedy occurred, requiring us to send good vibes. I'm so glad I misinterpreted the title
(maybe "good vibes ABOUT" Payton instead?)
Your TomVH/Ace hat has been removed due to a copyright claim by SuperHat Group International.
Great news while it lasted, though.
i just spoke with him recently and he is very high on Michigan (his current leader), and Oklahoma is still very much in the picture, but don't discount Cal
rare, very rare. like the implications.
Guys, Brianace Cookbender just said he'd end up in "a winged helmet," not "our winged helmet."
Huge pickup for Delaware, in other words.
is it just me or does this provide us some closure for Rojo committing to USC?
It's just you. Rojo was a much better athlete/prospect.
Donvan Warren. Rojo and the kid(his name escapes me,and I'm to lazy to look it up) who played de at my former hs Detroit Mackenzie disappointed alot of the fanbase when they chose Shady Pete. As I recall the story about Rojo...he went to bed blue,and awoke a trojan. Mom played a BIG role in his change of decision...
I think you should give yourself 109,901 points for moonlighting as the recruiting ninja tonight.
114,408. Thank you very much.
Another Hoke win?!
I don't know why, but I always find it funny/amusing/exciting when Brian posts on the board.
You got a little something on your nose there...
Can you imagine, J. Payton, Stonum and RoundTree, & J. Gallon as our WR corps next yr. Lethal!!
And possibly Amara Darboh as well.
Morris is 2013 bud
with a beast like Shane Morris coming in, and Brady's commitment to pro set manball, receivers nationwide have to be loving what Michigan's near future offers them. glad to see it starting to happen.
i couldn't agree more. You make several valid points
Does this mean I need to buckle up? I'm still trying to figure out when I should and should not buckle up, and now with Brian and TomVH/Ace merging, my compass is even more out of wack.
But seriously, great news. WR is the one area on offense that really bothers me (just because of the paucity of non-slot ninjas), so this would be huge.