Hi, it's me, putting on my TomVH/Ace hat.
Got a tip from someone close to Jordan Payton that he is "thinking about committing to M" and that the only realistic competition at this point is Oklahoma. Not certain, but if I had to guess I'd say he ends up in a winged helmet. This does not qualify as surprising news--premium sites have had M in the lead for Payton for a while--but it is independent confirmation.
/hat removal
YAHOO!
We need a stud
Couldn't Agree More
Couldn't agree more. As always with recruits, I hope he comes in and performs up to the hype. It'd be great to have a big physical game changer on the outside.
Also, how'd Brian get so many points, does he post on here a bunch or something? /s
David Cone is my homeboy...
I know it's sarcasm and all
but I think he gets like 50 points for every front page post he makes.
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Could you remove just a
Could you remove just a little more than the hat? You know, for your adoring fans?
I miss King of Belch.
a-one, a-two, a-three, a-four
Abort, Retry, Fail?
Ace hat >>> Ass hat
Ace hat >>> Ass hat
This is great! I have liked
This is great! I have liked his play from the day we first heard about him. He looks like a technically sound receiver from my untrained eyes.
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Hail yes!
Cool!
Got your ninja suit on tonight I see.
Thanks for the good news.
Because I'm old and grouchy
needs moar cryptic.
needs moar cryptic.
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That is awesome news. Now on
That is awesome news. Now on the flip side, there have been some pretty good sources saying that we've cooled on O'Brien and he is all but assuredly choosing Tennessee on the 6th. I guess that means we have room for Darboh too?
"I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about." - Peter Griffin
2 WRs was probably going to
2 WRs was probably going to happen anyway. No O'Brien probably means more that we have room for Wright and/or Dunn.
Good points. I like Yuri
Good points. I like Yuri Wright and hope he goes Blue. I think we'd find room for Dunn with a nice firm handshake to Mike Cox after this year. #noiwillnotmakeacoxjoke
"I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about." - Peter Griffin
Why would
they offer a firm hand shake to....OOOOO you mean they are gonna shake his firm hand.
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Thany you Peter Griffin...
Thany you Peter Griffin...
Oddly enough
my actual first name is writen in what you just said. And it's not Peter. And lot's of people call me Peter Griffin all the time as a result.
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Can you link these sources?
Can you link these sources? It seems strange that this staff would allow an in-state like this to get away, doesn't it? With all they have talked about instate importance, and with our needs at D-line...
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Mostly just stuff I hear
Mostly just stuff I hear around the interwebz from insiderz and stuff. I'm not trying to fan and rumor flames or anything, just thought I'd pose a recruiting question in a recruiting themed thread as opposed to starting something new. We'll all find out for sure with regards to O'Brien in a couple of weeks. I find it odd that we'd take a pass on a player at a position of need, but I'm not our coaches.
"I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about." - Peter Griffin
He's getting it
from Sam Webb or someone who got it from Sam Webb.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
Hopes elevating. Guard
Hopes elevating. Guard lowering.
Yes! Now here's a gif.
Yes! Now here's a gif.
is that the same Brian
who is on WTKA every Thursday morning?
I am currently
listening to the podcast .. it was just a joke.
Wow, some people here need to lighten up.
It's
Chinatown.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
How do people
feel about Payton's skills compared to say, Burbridge.
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Fantastic, if not equal ball
Fantastic, if not equal ball skills, and slightly less speed.
I picture him as sort of the
I picture him as sort of the Junior Hemingway mold. Won't blow you away with speed, but will catch 98% percent of the balls that are thrown his way. Jordan Payton will be a very, VERY big pickup for us.
Jordan Payton is also beefier
Jordan Payton is also beefier and lot more physical than Burbridge. Darboh is more like Burbridge. Both are Stonum type receivers. Hemingway or Avant are better comparisons for Payton. Don't let that mean Payton is less than Burbridge, he's still very good.
If comparing someone to Avant
If comparing someone to Avant is an insult, you can call me Miles Davis. Me and my buddies were just comparing Hemingway to Avant, and to add Payton into this conversation with those two just makes me that more excited.
I agree with you, Jasan Avant
I agree with you, Jasan Avant is one of the most underrated receivers we've ever had. He had to share the spotlight with a few other future NFL WRs while he was here, so he often doesn't get the credit he deserves.
And I'm not saying Payton will be as good as Avant, but he could be. He's just more of that kind of player.
Avant's 1-handed stab against
Avant's 1-handed stab against NW was one of the best catches I'e seen.p
I got a letter from the government the other day . . .
Less explosive
probably more possession-y. Still a very good prospect.
Darboh is viewed as more of a big play receiver.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
Rivals: Payton #18 WR,
Rivals: Payton #18 WR, Burbridge #20 WR
Scout: Payton #12 WR, Burbridge #16 WR
24/7: Payton #26 WR, Burbridge #8 WR
ESPN: Payton #25 WR, Burbridge #38 WR
They're both excellent prospect (4 stars on all sites), and Payton seems to have fewer academic questions. Be happy if this happens.
Oh i knew
about the ratings and stuff. Was curious about the overall skill sets though. I hadn't seen his ESPN and 24/7 rankings though. Interesting to see how players rate when put up against that many sets of ratings.
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I like to look at offers
Jordan Payton:
Michigan
Oklahoma
Penn State
USC
Florida
Cal
Notre Dame
among others...
Aaron Burbridge:
Michigan
Illinois
Michigan State
Ohio State
Notre Dame
I'd be slightly wary of offer sheets
in this particular case. Burbridge has serious grade issues, which can impact what teams offer.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
the grades
That problem seems done with, don't you think?
That said, most of our commits, minus a few, have very nice offer sheets. If anything, it helps to know, when we lose a nice instate talent like Burbridge, that we have the option to get one that's just as good.
It looks to be cleared up
It looks to be cleared up now, but Burbridge went right from "iffy grades" to "committed" with a whole lot of "probably won't leave the state" in there as well. If Burbridge had waited on his commitment, not had grade issues, and shown more interest in schools across the country, he may have picked up more of the big national names outside the midwest.
That said, their offer lists aren't even that different. They both have UM and ND, so that's a wash. Payton has USC, Burbridge has OSU, that's a wash. Payton has a couple more elite offers, but if you're able to get the cream of the crop from your region, and Burbridge has, offer lists are hard to compare. For example - if one recruit had offers from Florida, Florida State and Alabama, and another recruit had Florida, Florida State, Alabama, Oklahoma and Michigan, are they really that different?
not everything is a wash
Oklahoma and Florida stick out too much.
And to be honest, you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to get into Oklahoma .. heck, Larry Holmes could probably get into Oklahoma.
Just saying...
Larry Holmes
Larry Holmes reference...nice. Easton, PA in the house!
I thought
I thought there were people on here "in the know" who were skeptical of Payton. Someone had said he was given his high ranking and offers based on his performance as a freshman and that he hadn't developed as well as people expected him to. I know lots of people here were a lot higher on Darboh and the other WR targets.
I don't know if I'm "in the
I don't know if I'm "in the know" but there is truth to both of your statements. I am higher on Darboh than Payton, and Payton has been underperforming based on what was expected of him as a freshman. That said, it's not enough to not be excited about his commitment.
After Payton's freshman and soph years, people thought he'd be a top-5 receiver nationally, and a top 30-50 player overall. Instead, he's a top 15-20 receiver nationally and a top 150ish player overall. Yes, that's below where people thought he'd be as a senior. But it's still a very good player we'd be happy with.
Welllllllll
That's good to hear. We do need some big posession receivers and I'm so in favor of us bringing in Payton and the Darboh. Although I would rather have another DT cuz DTs need a year to just eat and lift while WRs can just step in right away. If you need evidence of this flash back to the '05 PSU team where 4 true frosh stepped in at WR and torched everyone in the Big Ten except UM. Well I just got back from the Blue Lep and I'm drunk so forgive my ignorance but i gotta get up at 9:30 to meet some friends at Peirpont at 10:30. Hope we get there on time. GOOO BLUUUUUEEEEE YAAAHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Too bad
Payton is from California. We need Sparty to help us with the whole national recruiting or we won't get this kid!!!
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I'm not convinced yet
that we're as national as Sparty.
Im not an expert
And I havent seen very much film on either but it's very hard to compare these two players. Rivals has payton listed at 6'2, 199 with 4.49 speed and other sites have listed his hands as a major strength, he is a possession receiver at the next level. Burbridge is the exact opposite of that, he is smaller in height and weight and is faster, making him a downfield target at the next level. If I had to choose it would be difficult, but I would lean towards payton because of burbridge's grade issues.
I don't think
he's quite that big
payton
paytons probably more tested than burbridge since he's playing in California, competition level is higher. payton seems like a braylon Edwards, he'll be a great route runner with good hands who will go up and get it. where as burbridge is like a desmond fast and explosive. they both would be great to have, but I like payton. he's fast enough, and has the size, o hope he's like a micheal Floyd if he commits to us.
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YAHOO!
We need a stud receiver or two in this class. I'd love to see him in a winged helmet. Thanks Brian