Yea, that giant human walk-on OL walked on to the Buckeyes.
damn...hoping we could land him just for his size alone, oh well theres always the next "big thing"..
To add to the great news in-state DT Matthew Godin has said Michigan is no longer in the picture for him and that he "is done with them."
IIRC he was the former wrestler who was supposed to be "just like a young Mike Martin." So that's nice...
That's not good, both for he as a player and his friendship with O'Brien
Might be paywalled...
He doesn't go into detail about why, but people are speculating that the reason is that he didn't get an offer as soon as he would have liked.
Subject line reading in the Fort implies the same thing.
Why are kids getting so pissed this early in the recruiting game? 11 months to go and you're done with a school?
Not only that but only weeks after the coaching staff has been assembled. Seems like that calls for a little patience.
17 & 18 year old high school kids do not know this word "patience" that you speak of!
If that is the case, then good riddance. Perhaps a crappy attitude is why he did not get the offer to begin with.
With the amount of offers going out to DT in this class already, I wonder if Michigan just didnt see him as a Michigan level prospect. If thats the case then oh well. We cant just throw out offers to everyone who wants one. This kid sounds a little immature and entitled to me. Thats not the way to earn an offer.
I agree with the first part of your comment. Perhaps we have enough soild, legitimate leads on better prospects - DL positions are obviously a point of emphasis for the 2012 class.
It is true, we can't offer every kid who wants a Michigan offer.
This is now the reality of college recruting. It is not crazy to say that we now live in a society that feels more entiltled than say 20 years ago. I'm only 23 years old, but I still can see how the availability of information has affected recruiting.
I was young and arrogant (not necessarily a bad thing) once and can see how he feels - all these offers being extended to players he thinks he can beat, nothing yet for him. If this is born of hurt feelings, those can be mended. Hopefully some people can talk to him and help him understand it's early and the coaching staff is new.
J. Hayes shows how things can change. If Godin's a "dead to me forever" type just because he didn't get what he wanted when he wanted, this probably isn't a real loss. If he's just blowing off steam, we'll have a chance to get back in (if the coaches are interested).
Glasgow, oh well. No team was interested in giving him a scholarship. So in terms of potential, you'd have to rank him below our lowest recruit (same for OSU/Minny)
If this staff is as serious as they say they are about character, I don't think they will give this kid another look...and I would hope they do not. A lack of character cannot be blamed on youth and arrogance. Let him go to the SEC where he can be cut in a year or two to make room for the next best thing.
of the average American teenager long enough, and you'd hear much worse. The kid's feelings are hurt, see Tom's update thread. Arrogance is an irrational extension of self-value and self-worth, but it is evidence that someone believes they're good - and that's OK, as long as you understand the motivation. Underneath it all this kid really wants a M offer.
Hoke & Co. won't let this phase them one bit
I'm not really likeing his attitude. If Godin's gunna be pissy and not even consider us for not jumping on him right away, then I don't really want him. It's Febuary for goodness sakes.
He's a real charmer in his rivals pictures too.
Why no Michigan offer? He has a limited offer list right now with MSU, Cincy, and Wheat offered him from Syracuse.
Does anyone know what the deal is here? What part of his game isn't offer worthy?
I was away for a while, and I saw this thread and thought I might come back but thought nah, no need. Then I saw this post and I just had to say RIGHT ON. The world sucks! And some teenager deciding to do something other than what I wanted him to do has completely RUINED my day.
So if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go to McDonald's and ask for a large Coke, no ice, and then ask for a cup of ice.
Wow, really? I hadn't seen this before. I don't even know what to say to this.
I only show up when the cleansing purifying power of my vinegar and water solution is needed.
When I look at your username, I'm not feeling the grade school level humor that you are shooting for. I actually see the moniker to be very fitting.... for you. So, yeah, you have that going for you.
Edit: Also, it is now official. This place has pretty much become MLive. Congrats, also, for that.
except less talented and less state championy
Too bad, think we definitely could have used him.
Negging recruiting information that you normally wouldn't see is new to me.
Unfortunate, but noted.
You were probably negged for not providing a link
The links are paywalled. It's useless, but whatever, neg away I guess.
You don't see retarded that premium very often. I'm impressed.
for not liking the Hoke hire?
or they don't like recruiting information that they would otherwise have to pay for...
That's what TomVH is for
And so lied His Dudeness, martyred by the people he had innocently brought to the font of questionably significant recruiting information, betrayed by the flock he had sheparded with his staff of scuttlebutt.
Let this be a listen, oh ye doers of righteousness, that the presence of a link alone will not save you from the wrath of the many. For lo, the masses may conjure an agenda behind the pristine neutrality of portraying the loss of a preferred walk-on as a significant blow to recruiting, even though the Heart of The Messenger may be motivated by nought but the disinterested desire to serve humbly as the people's tribune.
You will not be forgotten, Dudeness! Your persecution will not be buried by the callous forgetfulness of Hokeamaniacs yet to be! The memory of the negative MGoPoints - that stained all the deeper as they did not affect your overall point total - will burn as a searing torch in the memory of those who witnessed this day - this day that recruiting update innocence was finally sacrificed to the debauched pleasure of the masses!
His Dudeness('s imaginary MGoPoints total for this thread) is dead! Long live His Dudeness!
"even though the Heart of The Messenger may be motivated by nought but the disinterested desire to serve humbly as the people's tribune."
I have to give you credit for writing this.
Welcome to my World. It shows two things. First, some members don't appreciate interesting info in regards to recruiting (which is a pretty big deal). Second, they are morons because negging doesn't do anything.
You don't get negged because some members don't appreciate recruiting info.
You get negged because you're adamun5, your thread titles are poor, and you're kind of a dick.
I'm not Adamum5 or whatever it is. Nice try, Columbo.
Fine. I didn't want a skirt-wearing player anyway.
Vincent Valentine COME ON DOWN
COME ON DOWN!
I told you that Michigan should have offered him a scholarship with so many to give. Banking them for next year makes sense, but not if the staff thought he might choose OSU. In my opinion, its worth using a scholarship to keep the kid from walking on at OSU. Lets be honest, Michigan can't afford to lose any talent to OSU, even if he's only walking on there.
We'll see, I guess. This one just felt like a situation where Michigan should have done something to keep him away from OSU.
We don't know how it will turn out, but you are saying we should burn an OL Scholarship that we need desperately on a kid that doesn't appear to have the skills to start in the Big Ten so we can keep him off of OSU's scout team?
That seems like pretty weird logic.
If the coaches thought he was worthy of an offer then yeah, but when no other decent schools offer him a scholarship don't you have to kinda go with the experts on this one. Why wouldn't an Indiana or Purdue be all over this kid if he was a true "sleeper" stud with a late offer?
I think the losing streak is effecting your decision making.
Good call. I should probably leave the recruiting stuff to the experts. Of course, now that I opened my big yapper I hope that the kid becomes a stud at OSU so that I am vindicated. Which would actually be a bad thing because him being good at OSU would then be a bad thing for Michigan. Oye. I sure stepped in it this time!
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!! TO BOLIVIAN WITH YE!!! HATH DOTH SHALL WILST!!!!
We just stoled two recruits from perennial losers Minnesota and Vanderbilt and they weren't very highly thought of. It's a pretty weird world we live in now.
You'd rather burn a scholly on a 2 star prospect who can't get offers from the MAC than see him walk on at tOSU?Really? I'm glad you're not involved in recruiting.
I'm starting to understand what these kids mean when they say academics is important to them. They want to be near the top of their class. Going to a school like osu makes it a lot easier for them to achieve that dream.
Bashing OSU and their academics is extremely comical. They're actually a good academic school. Stanford dominates over UofM and a Michigan undergrad education is nothing special unless you consider engineering and Ross. Time to get off the high horse before Stanford knocks you off it.
Because Stanford is totally our top competition.
I think middle-aged men who haven't been in school for 15-20 years and still find it entertaining to rip on a school is a complete joke. It's understandable from a younger crowd but we all know that this board is dominated by 35-50 year old white males.
Either you're a total creeper and investigate everyone on this board, or you just like making an ass of yourself.
Are you a Michigan grad? To me and many other students and alumni, Michigan isn't just a school. It's a part of our being. That includes the rivalries and The Rivalry.
Did I miss something? What the fuck is the relationship between Stanford and Ohio State? Are you saying because Michigan isn't a better academic institution than Stanford that we can't make fun of OSU for being a bunch of Dumbasses? That logic has all sorts of fail.
I also find it comical that you think an undergrad degree from one of the top public universities in the nation is "nothing special." That is usually what someone who didn't go there would say.
osu will teach you how to scam old women out of a million dollars, and how to go in and out of 45 prisons and run scams on the inmates.
Preferred walk-on with signing bonus sealed the deal!
Fuk osu...GO BLUE
One less hungry mouth to feed at the training table.
I think out of state tuition might have had something to do with this. OSU is less than half the cost to attend than Michigan. OOS tuition at M is almost 40 grand a year now.
Let Godin throw his fit now, probably his way of begging for an offer. Hes not a top target tell him to get over it.
Is there a chance that Hoke is banking scholarships, in anticipation of a poor APR and losing scholarships?
There is no chance of this.
If the coaches thought he would be a 4* talent after 1 year of college coaching they would have offered. They obviously thought he was only a future 2* kid.
I have been involved in hiring at my firm. even the ohio state people on our hiring committee--young and old--accept the fact that Michigan is a superior school. among non-osu people, it isn't even a question. osu is better than it used to be, but nowhere near Michigan, Northwestern, or Notre Dame in the midwest.
Glasgow is a huge stiff. Honestly, I really doubt he's going to turn into much of a football player at the next level. He's not athletic at all. I don't know why anybody would be particularly upset that a walk-on chose another school. He's a walk-on! If it ever gets to the point where walk-ons are contributing heavily, that's typically bad news.
He's so big! And he played basketball! Like Antonio Gates!
Cackle with knowing glee if... Glasgow starts a game for Ohio State before 2015
Just out of curiosity, who fits into that category? I don't.
Although I'm not going to lose sleep over a walk-on, or any recruit at that matter, good luck to him.
From what i have read the reason this kid was not heavily recruited is because he is too much of an unknown, having played only one year of football. After this kid gets some work and a college strength and conditioning program he may develop or may not - as of now he is quite raw but has a ton of room to improve and learn. His coach (a former Michigan player who contacted Ohio State) seems to think that he has the upside be a possible starter one day. Im not sure how likely this is with the top linemen they are going after/havecoming in 2012, but hes in the door and he has a chance. To say this kid is comparable to a 2* recruit is completely foolish, a walk-on is a walk-on and are seen mainly as a project for one reason or another. Look at guys like green bay linebacker clay matthews who were walk-ons and are now pro-bowlers in the NFL.