I almost got sick when it happended. Hope he can fully recover from that.
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I almost got sick when it happended. Hope he can fully recover from that.
Still a little queasy. Poor kid. That was a nasty, fluky injury.
I will never understand why they need to show so many replays of injuries like this. It was truly a horrific injury, and I hope he has a good recovery.
They only showed teh replay of the actual injury once.
I couldn't see it from the first few angles, but I didn't know what I was looking for at that time. I think they only used the worst angle once and then only showed players' reactions after that.
Edit: Clearly I am blind or wasn't paying close enough attention. Good for me I guess. Carry on.
You could tell it was bad news when loading him into the ambulance, you could see his left foot, but you couldn't see his right foot from a 3/4 angle, with no obstructions that would block the view of his other foot.
Although one is too many in my book, I actually turned it off after that replay for about 5 minutes, because I'm used to football games where they show the inuries from 5 different angles in slow motion.
I wish they showed the injury more, I wanna see exactly what happened to the player.
Prayers out to him. I think we've all been thrilled/amazed by the quick recovery that Fitz is making and I wish nothing less for Kevin Ware. Hope to see him out on the court next year.
I havent seen it. On a scale of 1 to Lattimore, how gross is it?
I haven't seen it but from what my buddy just told me...it's like Lattimore++
Dang...Well I'm not going to watch ESPN for a week.
They won't show it. That's how bad it was.
I watched and I wish I could unwatch...cause that is wow.
Basically, the Lattimore injury was hard to tell what was going on so a lot of it was in your head. This leaves no room for imagination. It just happens and it's bad. In terms of viewing it I'd say this is worse than the Lattimore injury but the Lattimore injury was a worse injury to have.
No socks covering the injury.
Leg uncovered and then as he layed there, it was still bent, it was the worst I have ever seen.
Napoleon McCallum, then.
horrible horrible horrible
i wish him a speedy and thorough recovery. prayers for him on this Easter Sunday.
It was disgusting. I don't want to watch it again.
He should be ok in time, but it's going to take a long time. I hope he's getting the best available treatment.
that we don't see more injuries like that in a sport that constantly has athletes landing awkwardly on hardwood. Lord have mercy on Kevin Ware.
not for the faint of heart:
That is truly horrific. I hope he can play again.
I hope he can walk again.
He'll walk again, and probably return to the court. Sports medicine can do some impressive things. The rehab will probably be grueling, though.
I've been waiting for some perspective to appear here. This happened to me. No one cried or prayed or threw up. I did not really feel pain until after surgery. I could get around on crutches the next day. I never had athlete speed, but I could run distance after a year or so.
Rehab will be just regaining strength and endurance from weight-bearing and activity restrictions. Bone will heal fully in 3 months in a young, healthy, non-smoker, presuming there isn't any infection preventing fracture union. He may have anterior knee pain from the nail insertion site as his only lingering after effect.
broken bones only heal for non-smokers? Time for an updated surgeon general warning.
It was a bad injury, but you're being ridiculous.
But I've seen more than my fair share of mangled bodies and gruesome injuries and my guess is he'll be able to fully recover. As bad as it looks, it's still just two broken bones and a severe laceration. Given that he would have had immediate top notch medical attention, any vascular issues would be mitigated and it's doubtful there was catastrophic damage to the connective tissue. The wild card would be the extent of nerve damage. I hope for the best for this kid.
Prayers sent up. Horrific injury.
My wife has been crying since it happened.
rather than post about it?
Fortunately there are people who can administer medical care who don't get nauseous like me. My heart goes out to that kid.
it looked like a clean brake of his leg bones...any idea what type of operation they do for that severe leg injury?
Possibly an ORIF of the Tib/Fib
I did suffer a "clean" tibia and fibula break about three years ago that was similar, but not as gruesome as Ware's. The doctors inserted an inter-medial nail, a long titanium rod, through the middle of the broken tibia, secured two screws at near the knee and two more near the ankle. The surgeon seriously goes to town on the leg like a carpenter, drilling, hammering, and screwing to secure the bone. The fibula is small and doesn't bear much weight, so they just reset the bone and let it heal on its own. I was in an aircast boot for only 2 months and walking without crutches after soon after. At the time, I was a collegiate athlete in great shape so that, combined with being young and having access to world class doctors and physicians dramatically reduced my recovery time. If it was in fact a clean break, and he doesn't have major setbacks, he could be back to near 100% in a year. God bless him and his doctors.
I think you meant intramedullary nail, IMN for short.
He was correct. It's an ORIF using an IMN.
I was referring to his spelling of "inter medial nailing."
You are correct on the open reduction; however, If it was a closed injury it wouldn't be an open reduction. The only thing that would make it an ORIF is the fact that was open and they would have to debride/irrigate the bony ends and likely use that to their advantage to get a better reduction.
A quick check of Wikipedia shows that you're right. Also, you're a doctor.
No worries, wasn't intended to be a knock. Glad you recovered fully. On the rare occasions I can add to the board, I take advantage! Go Blue!
This injury is very similar to Fitz, open tibia fracture. Treatment is a titanium rod inserted through the knee, across the fracture to the ankle. ORIF as stated above.
With regards the severity, this injury is easier to rehab from than a ligamentous injury (Lattimore). This injury may look gruesome but it actually has a very good prognosis.
I would expect him back next season. Fitz is on track for a return this fall.
I saw one wide-angle shot of it, and that's all I needed. Horrible injury.
Never seen anything like that in my life. And I've seen a man fall off an an airplane at an airshow and I think this may have disturbed me as much.
God bless him.
I was also there (pretty sure we're talking about the same event) and this is almost worst because you can see every detail.
Yes the one at Selfridge. The guy was a wingwalker.
Even worse for me because I was in one of the company VIP tents and I kid you not, I was directly in front where it happened. People around me were hopping the fence running out into the field trying to save him.
Makes you think about how on any given moment, any player in any sport can be crippled or almost crippled for life. Forget about basketball for now, lets hope he can walk again.
That was haunting. A teribble, terrible thing to have happen to him.
I played football for 8 years. I broke a foot, broke multiple fingers, got 3 concussions, tore a tendon in my foot and got various other injuries and firsthand witnessed even more. Despite all that, I still literally threw up and almost passed out after they showed the first replay. I hope nothing but the best for that young man (and his teammates and opponents that were there)and wish that everything possible is done to ensure he has a speedy recovery.
I nearly threw up just watching
I'm confused as to why his leg actually broke - it didn't look like that awkward of a landing to me. Like maybe a roll-your-ankle kind of landing -- did I miss something about it where it was more awkward to cause such a drastic injury? Or did he just straight up have terrible luck despite not that awkward of a landing?
Bones are strong but relaitvely brittle (ie not a lot of bend). Put enough pressure at just the right angle and it can snap. Probably a 1 in a million sort of fluky thing.
I don't understand how that happened? Its not like a football play where he got hit or had another player's weight on him. It was really just that he landed funny. I'm shocked that only his own weight could do that much damage.
Have had an underlying bone lesion such as a cyst (pathologic fracture). Should not break like that under normal circumstances.
Glad I missed it. Don't care to see it either.
Saw the injury on replay once, and that cannot be unseen. Hope he can recover from it
against nature and injury. My hopes and prayers are going out to you.
When they started the replay, I didn't watch, not because my stomach can't take that kind of thing, but because really have a problem with the choice to show it.
I personally think it's an affront to the kid's dignity to show the replay. We're such a nation of voyeurs that think there's some entitlement to see everything that exists on film, but f that, there's no "right to know" or particular newsworthiness to real-life horror. This isn't covering war or a terrorist attack where the carnage is genuinely a part of understanding the scope of the story.
Sure, it impacts the game, but it's the fact he's not going to play that is the newsworthy part, not the nature of the injury. Certain things are simply over the line. A bad rolled ankle? OK, we've probably all been there, makes you cringe but it's not such a huge deal. Theismann, Lattimore, even Fitz, frankly, were too much.
Sensationalizing gruesome injuries just pisses me off. I know (KNOW) no one on this board is going to post a pic or link to a vid.
Arrrgh, media. Arrrgh, nation of voyeurs. Best wishes, young man, I hope your surgery and recovery go as well as possible.
I have no problem with them showing the replay again. They were not glorifying a dirty hit. They were not showing anything that this kid should find embarrasing. If you find it gross to watch, look away. I am glad they showed it again, because my wife and I missed it the first time and I wanted to see what happened. Once was enough for me and I will not watch it again, but I have that choice. Don't force your watching values on everyone. :)
He will live. He will have the opportunity to rehab and play again and if that does not work he will have a full scholarship to get an education and make something of himself. As bad as this was, the future is still bright for this young kid. It was a grotesque injury to watch, but their are far worse injuries that one can sustain in sports, particularly head injuries. Lets hope for the best for him.
One silver lining, if you can even find one in this, is that as bad a if looked, acl tears are usually much worse in terms if recovery than a leg break, even one that bad.
This sad injury happened just as we were getting up to eat. My appetite got a bit smaller after that. Sending prayers his way.
I seen this kind of break happen this year to an 8th grader on our wrestling team during a match. I could hear the break from the stands. His leg was dangling by skin. The bone didnt break the skin though. Very very horrible and sad. Im praying for this kid.
Hopefully Kevin can recover fully and recover quickly. My thoughts and prayers go out to him, his family, and his teammates.
I got home right when he was leaving on the stretcher. Made the mistake of watching it on YouTube. Feel so bad for the kid. Such a horrific injury. So many prayers...
I had the misfortune of watching a man send both shin bones through his boots in a fast-roping accident. That was worse than this, because I was the guy on the rope after him, I helped the corpsman treat the wounds. That's not exactly sports, but yeah, this is what our fighting men and women get to see. Sorry for the reality check, but it is what it is. That doesn't diminish what this young man will face going forward. I wish him and his family the best. But remember our vets see this stuff pretty frequently.
The reactions of the players from both teams and the coaches was truly heartbreaking.
Had this same injury happen right in front of me playing basketball in high school. An opponent jumped for a rebound and when he landed his leg snapped in half, bone protruding. I immediately looked at their bench and waved for someone to come over. Back in our huddle a couple teammates were fighting off the urge to vomit. Something I'll never forget.
He'll be fine. Busy Level 1 trauma centers see this injury a few times a month. Infection is probably the biggest risk because it was an open fracture. The Lattimore injury requires far more complex procedure with a less predictable outcome.
Is this much different from the injury Fitz suffered? Obviously the skin broke in this instance, but is there anything else? Both injuries looked absolutely gruesome. Best of luck to him in his recovery.
Injuries very similar. Fitz had an open fracture as well.
Risk of infection is very low. This happened in a clean environment. Usually these are from car/motorcycle wrecks or farm accidents still with quick antibiotic administration have a low infection rate.
The thing that's crazy about this injury is that it wasn't an awkward landing or anything. He literally just contested the shot and came down. Didn't land on anybody's foot, didn't roll his ankle, it just snapped. Prayers and thoughts to him.
I came home from Easter dinner with the fam, turned the game on, and based on the reaction, I was convinced he died on the court. I realize it sucks, and yes, it was a bad injury, but let's save our "prayers" for people who really need them.
Because there aren't enough prayers to go around? Come on now...
It's not that at all. The point is how it was being blown out of proportion. Like I said, I tuned in right after it happened, and I was convinced the kid broke his neck, or just dropped dead.
That may be but your last sentence makes it seems like our prayers "have" to go somewhere else...
I can't watch that because I shattered my tib/fib similar to Fitz. My question is, was the injury any worse than Fitz'? Beacsue if not the guy can still plan on a recovery and be playing again in less than a year. Even though it looked bad because nothing was covering it and the injury was clear for all to see (I know that can be a mental hurdle for an athlete) it shouldn't be career ending...that is my hope at least.
I know I will sound like a terrible person, but on the broadcast they pretty much acted like the kid died. It was broken leg. A particularly gruesome one, yes, but still just a broken leg. No different from Touissant's. I feel terrible for him, obviously. But I thought the broadcast was a little over the top.
all bitches. Yes it was bad. All this 'can't be unseen' and 'i literally through up' crap is way overboard. Has everyone let their wife post on their MGo account today?
Wow, calm down sparky...
Gary Moeller did and even she's stomached it better than most.
the pic from the fake Kevin Ware account?
on a news replay and just immediately closed my eyes. Thanks to everyone for not posting graphic pictures here! But yes, similar to Fitz's injury and he'll be up and about in no time, with good prognosis for recovery.
Best of luck to that young man for a quick and full recovery.